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Post by Accord_Royal1738 on Jul 21, 2011 14:02:26 GMT -5
Location:  Note: Arena is deserted, no bystanders are present. Morals: On Elimination: KO, death or incapacitation Note: Silent scream and TP are not permitted in this fight Equipment: Standard for both   |
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Post by ckal on Jul 21, 2011 14:06:37 GMT -5
OAFA Battle Forum rules state that powers or abilities cannot be removed from one or both combatant in an effort to make the fight balanced. But, I have heard that Elektra has only used this silent scream once, so typically it would not be allowed or considered valid anyways. Is this also the case for her TP?
If so, this thread will remain open.
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Post by Admin on Jul 21, 2011 14:08:20 GMT -5
She's used silent scream like once or twice and she's been around since 1981, iirc. That's why I think it's ridiculous to believe it's a factor in battles surrounding her. No clue about her TP abilities, but I imagine those weren't used frequently at all, either. So if anything, I think the OP is just saying "standard Elektra" in a detailed way. I could be wrong about the TP, though.
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Post by ckal on Jul 21, 2011 14:09:09 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I was just trying to figure out. If that is the case, then all is well and good.
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Post by Accord_Royal1738 on Jul 21, 2011 14:12:36 GMT -5
As far as I know (and I've been a longtime fan of hers), Elektra has never once used TP against anyone other than cannon fodder opposition.
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Post by Silver on Jul 21, 2011 14:12:40 GMT -5
I believe it was Frank Miller who wrote her having the silent scream ability anyway, and he tends to give his characters showings that are so beyond ridiculous, other writers ignore them. This is not always the case of course, because sometimes other writers give the character similar feats, but the silent scream seems to be one of the examples of other writers never replicating it.
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Post by ckal on Jul 21, 2011 14:14:17 GMT -5
OK, then I will allow it.
Battle on.
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Post by Admin on Jul 21, 2011 14:18:24 GMT -5
Are you sure it was Miller, Silver? Because he's also the man who created Elektra.
Anyway, it seems fair to assume TP/silent scream = not factors.
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Post by Killshot Caine on Jul 21, 2011 14:22:25 GMT -5
Are you sure it was Miller, Silver? Because he's also the man who created Elektra. Anyway, it seems fair to assume TP/silent scream = not factors. Yea.Frank Miller wrote Elektra:Assassin. |
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Post by Silver on Jul 21, 2011 14:23:33 GMT -5
^That. And I know Miller created Elektra, which does grant him some credibility as to what she can do, but still, if one writer makes a character formidable in a way that no other writer does, that just makes their writing inconsistent. And if Miller only had her use the silent scream once, then he was inconsistent with his own work anyway, seeing as how he had plenty of opportunities to have her use it again.
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Post by Killshot Caine on Jul 21, 2011 14:25:38 GMT -5
^That. And I know Miller created Elektra, which does grant him some credibility as to what she can do, but still, if one writer makes a character formidable in a way that no other writer does, that just makes their writing inconsistent. And if Miller only had her use the silent scream once, then he was inconsistent with his own work anyway, seeing as how he had plenty of opportunities to have her use it again. Miller actually didn't have much opportunity to use the scream again.Elektra Assassin was the only solo series her wrote for her. |
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Post by Silver on Jul 21, 2011 14:28:24 GMT -5
^That. And I know Miller created Elektra, which does grant him some credibility as to what she can do, but still, if one writer makes a character formidable in a way that no other writer does, that just makes their writing inconsistent. And if Miller only had her use the silent scream once, then he was inconsistent with his own work anyway, seeing as how he had plenty of opportunities to have her use it again. Miller actually didn't have much opportunity to use the scream again.Elektra Assassin was the only solo series her wrote for her. Didn't she appear in Daredevil: Man Without Fear? Either way, I concede your point that he may not have had many opportunities for it, but my underlying point stands regardless. |
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Post by ckal on Jul 21, 2011 14:32:48 GMT -5
So we have agreed that no SS/TP is standard for Elektra.
Gentlemen, thoughts on this battle?
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Post by Morpheus on Jul 21, 2011 15:53:51 GMT -5
All their fights show Bullseye. Yes, even the ones Elektra won.
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Post by Accord_Royal1738 on Jul 21, 2011 18:22:07 GMT -5
I think Elektra's latest win over Bullseye is a MAJOR reason why she can win a vast majority here. The fact that she was able to conquer her fears and pull off an impressive victory while out of shape should eliminate a once readily apparent edge for Bullseye: Intimidation.
Seeing as how the two aren't visible from the outset, there's no reason for me not to believe Elektra couldn't utilize stealth. So if she's able to take advantage of that, Lester doesn't stand a chance. We're talking about someone who can sneak up on Daredevil with minimal effort. So, my verdict: Elektra via sai to the neck.
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Post by Admin on Jul 21, 2011 18:23:53 GMT -5
She got the better of Lester when he was being horribly arrogant and doing nothing more than blatantly toying with her the whole time. A good victory for her? Certainly. But I'm not too impressed. I'd say Lester's attitude in the fight was a bigger factor when it comes to the outcome.
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Post by Killshot Caine on Jul 21, 2011 18:27:37 GMT -5
I find it odd he only appears very skilled against Elektra.What he shows against Elektra he's never done against anyone.
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Post by Dane on Jul 21, 2011 18:28:55 GMT -5
But it's still in character for him to dick around.
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Post by Accord_Royal1738 on Jul 21, 2011 18:29:03 GMT -5
She got the better of Lester when he was being horribly arrogant and doing nothing more than blatantly toying with her the whole time. A good victory for her? Certainly. But I'm not too impressed. I'd say Lester's attitude in the fight was a bigger factor when it comes to the outcome. What makes you think he will act any different here, though? Morals are on. |
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Post by Accord_Royal1738 on Jul 21, 2011 18:29:54 GMT -5
I find it odd he only appears very skilled against Elektra.What he shows against Elektra he's never done against anyone. Except cannon fodder Hand ninjas. |
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