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Post by Admin on Dec 30, 2010 19:23:40 GMT -5
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The Security Lobby in The Matrix. Shocker begins at the metal detectors, and Gambit begins directly in front of the elevator (opposite ends, both are near cover). Assume the pillars are durable enough to withstand their attacks.
Rules:
-Shocker is wearing his standard armor.
-Gambit is pre-death & has his bo-staff and 2 decks of cards.
-Both have basic knowledge on the other.
-Morals apply.
-Elimination by all standard methods,.
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Post by Painkiller on Dec 30, 2010 19:58:39 GMT -5
Shocker, he's been able to tag Spidey on multiple occassions. One good blast should put Gambit down.
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Post by Admin on Dec 30, 2010 20:00:14 GMT -5
Shocker, he's been able to tag Spidey on multiple occassions. One good blast should put Gambit down. But with this environment, what makes you believe Shocker can tag Gambit before getting hit with a volley of explosive cards? |
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Post by Silver on Dec 30, 2010 20:15:37 GMT -5
Gambit should be able to use the environment to avoid attacks. However, if Shocker applies the destructive capacity of his gauntlets correctly, he may be able to connect with his blasts anyway. Gambit's explosives would be a problem. Though, theoretically, Shocker could manage to withstand a few of them due to the protection of his suit (it does protect him from his own weapons, although the enhancements added to his suit over time have been forgotten -_-). Regardless, I think he could survive a blast, unless Gambit charges a larger object in the area. Gambit is obviously the more agile of the two and the more reflexive, but if he attempted to fight Shocker at close quarter, that may simply give Shocker an opportunity to kill him. I could see Gambit winning this on account of his enhanced agility, but at the same time, if Shocker can land any decent hit, that should decide the battle. This could go either way, in my opinion, but I may say Shocker just for the heck of it.
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Post by Vance Astro on Dec 30, 2010 20:21:53 GMT -5
I'm going to go with Gambit.He's a comparable Daredevil acrobatically along with having the superior agility of the two.He's a great fighter and fairly good tactician.Gambit isn't as careless as Spider-Man, he will be able to put Shocker where he needs him to take him down...not that Spider-Man can't beat Shocker.
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Post by spidey_17 on Dec 30, 2010 20:23:24 GMT -5
I'm not sure about this because i don't know how powerful shocker's armor is.
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Post by Admin on Dec 30, 2010 20:29:38 GMT -5
I'm not sure about this because i don't know how powerful shocker's armor is. =] It's rather durable thanks to a "vibro-shield" it can produce. We've never seen his display against explosions, but he can shrug off 10 ton strikes from Spider-Man, and it has reflected a sniper rifle bullet (although he questioned if it could do it again). If I had to take a guess, I'd say it's powerful enough to withstand 1-3 direct strikes from a card. |
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Post by Admin on Dec 30, 2010 20:31:50 GMT -5
"it does protect him from his own weapons, although the enhancements added to his suit over time have been forgotten -_-). "
LOL. Yeah, he's made quite a few upgrades.
-Being able to "vibrate off" webbing from his eyes.
-Being able to fire without the gauntlets (now ignored)
-And then of course, the MASSIVE upgrades in Peter Parker, where he could fly, generate small earthquake-type attacks, and remain completely immune to Spider-man's attacks.
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Post by spidey_17 on Dec 30, 2010 20:35:45 GMT -5
I'm not sure about this because i don't know how powerful shocker's armor is. =] It's rather durable thanks to a "vibro-shield" it can produce. We've never seen his display against explosions, but he can shrug off 10 ton strikes from Spider-Man, and it has reflected a sniper rifle bullet (although he questioned if it could do it again). If I had to take a guess, I'd say it's powerful enough to withstand 1-3 direct strikes from a card. Spidey is a 30 toner  In that case i would give to Gambit the win. Gambit seems extremely agile so i have no doubt that he can dodge many blasts. And i have never seen Shocker having any impressive agility feat. And if 2-3 card are enough to put him down, then he will lose. Gambit is more than capable of tagging him with more cards. =] |
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Post by Power NeXus on Dec 30, 2010 20:38:02 GMT -5
I'd give a good majority to Shocker. They both have rather comparable offensive power, but Gambit could easily be taken down in one hit, whereas Shocker's protective suit would allow him to tank at least a few hits. And while Gambit does have superior speed and agility, Shocker has proven himself many times to be capable of tagging Spider-Man, who is faster and more agile than Gambit and has the extra advantage of a spider-sense.
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Post by Admin on Dec 30, 2010 20:40:28 GMT -5
It's rather durable thanks to a "vibro-shield" it can produce. We've never seen his display against explosions, but he can shrug off 10 ton strikes from Spider-Man, and it has reflected a sniper rifle bullet (although he questioned if it could do it again). If I had to take a guess, I'd say it's powerful enough to withstand 1-3 direct strikes from a card. Spidey is a 30 toner You know what I mean. If anyone can get their hands on "Deadly Foes of Spider-Man" then Shocker has some feats in there. During a training fight with Boomerang (I believe), he has some dodging feats and tags him out of the air. There's also an issue of ASM which gives his tactical mind SOME credit. IIRC, he's tagged against a wall by a net, and he uses his blasts to break through the wall he's stuck against and escape. It's not anything on par with Cap or Cyc, but it shows he's not an idiot who just stands around and shoots at his foe, haha. |
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Post by Silver on Dec 30, 2010 20:44:36 GMT -5
"it does protect him from his own weapons, although the enhancements added to his suit over time have been forgotten -_-). " LOL. Yeah, he's made quite a few upgrades. -Being able to "vibrate off" webbing from his eyes. -Being able to fire without the gauntlets (now ignored) -And then of course, the MASSIVE upgrades in Peter Parker, where he could fly, generate small earthquake-type attacks, and remain completely immune to Spider-man's attacks. I guess it was necessary for him to have lost these enhancements, otherwise he slaughter SpiderMan every time. But still..... Spidey is a 30 toner =] You silly Spidey fanboy, you.  |
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Post by Admin on Dec 30, 2010 20:47:09 GMT -5
"I guess it was necessary for him to have lost these enhancements, otherwise he slaughter SpiderMan every time. But still....."
I'd dare to say he was actually a team-buster at that level (Peter Parker: Spider-Man).
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Post by Silver on Dec 30, 2010 20:48:26 GMT -5
"I guess it was necessary for him to have lost these enhancements, otherwise he slaughter SpiderMan every time. But still....." I'd dare to say he was actually a team-buster at that level (Peter Parker: Spider-Man). True enough. |
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Post by Pirateking69 on Dec 30, 2010 20:55:23 GMT -5
I'm going with Gambit...because the environment would help and with his agility and cards should give him the win
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Post by Admin on Dec 30, 2010 20:59:35 GMT -5
Just curious, why do you guys think the environment helps Gambit? I believe it helps them equally, TBH. It's got enough cover for anyone to use, regardless of their agility, but is also confined enough so neither has the option to take the high ground or a stealth route.
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Post by spidey_17 on Dec 30, 2010 21:01:30 GMT -5
k4tz: I was just messing with ya. Well, i don't think dodging a few boomerangs is the same with trying to avoid explosions from like 4 cards... But his tactical intellect might be a good help here. I should try to think more about it. @silver: I am. Do you have a problem with that bub?   |
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Post by Power NeXus on Dec 30, 2010 21:05:28 GMT -5
It kinda sucks sometimes that tech-loving characters have to hold themselves back for the sake of remaining beatable. Shocker made all those sick upgrades, but had to lose them becuase they made him way too powerful. Current Spider-Man has an awesome tech suit, but it probably won't last long either.
It would be really sweet to see Herman and Peter both lose the writers that want to hold them back, get a month of so of prep time and a huge laboratory to work with, and have an all-out tech battle.
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Post by Admin on Dec 30, 2010 21:09:23 GMT -5
k4tz: I was just messing with ya. Well, i don't think dodging a few boomerangs is the same with trying to avoid explosions from like 4 cards... But his tactical intellect might be a good help here. I should try to think more about it. @silver: I am. Do you have a problem with that bub? I know you were. As I said, my memory isn't that good on the fight, so we shouldn't really pass judgement on how impressive the dodge was, at least until someone can get a hold of some scans or those issues! As for the cards, morals apply, so it's up for debate just how much force Gambit will be packing behind the cards. Like I've said, I think Shocker's suit can take 1-3 DIRECT hits, and numerous near-hits. |
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Post by Pirateking69 on Dec 30, 2010 21:12:42 GMT -5
Just curious, why do you guys think the environment helps Gambit? I believe it helps them equally, TBH. It's got enough cover for anyone to use, regardless of their agility, but is also confined enough so neither has the option to take the high ground or a stealth route. imo he could use them for cover and could charge parts of the environment to try to hit shocker or distract him |
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