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Post by Beatboks on Jan 12, 2011 23:19:26 GMT -5
Sorry forgot about starting a new thread for tournaments. copied from nomination thread
Today at 1:14am, Sarda wrote: I'll let Beatboxs start our match.
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2. Beatboks: Manhunter (gear we've agreed to) Decoy Elite: Dr. McNinja (gear we've agreed to) LOCATION: 5 blocks of Hells Kitchen. Begin 3 blocks away on the main road. Both are visible, but obviously near plenty of cover. Midnight, lights remain on. Unpopulated.
Thanks decoy.
First move use my battle staff (magnetic pulse strike)to take out lights (or since the "lights remain on" is this not allowed). The dark will allow McNinja to take full advantage of his stealth but since for this match only I have the full Manhunter mask ability of infra read sight plus omni-directional mic for enhanced hearing, the edge is lost. McNinja, believing he is sufficiently hidden from me with his stealth is caught unawares when I sneak up on him and hit him with the full strike power of the battle staff, throwing him into a wall. The staffs power is spent but I drive home the attack while he is shocked by my initial attack with repeated blows , hopefully taking him down before his healing get's him back in the match.
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Post by Beatboks on Jan 12, 2011 23:20:23 GMT -5
OK missed the part about knowledge of weapons. So MicNinja is aware that his stealth is insuficient. Changing tactic. Still start with taking out the lights (my only real advantage) to close the distance. But will monitor and lure McNinja into the best possible position for attack. That position will be in a secluded alley with plenty of trash tins. Use the battle staff to set up a magnetic attraction field around Mcninja so that all the metal in the alley assaults him for me (again only have this ability for this match). I make this assault from a distance so I have a chance of escape if McNinja heals quickly since he's aware of my abilities.
Await reaction Decoy
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 13, 2011 6:01:27 GMT -5
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Post by Beatboks on Jan 13, 2011 7:13:40 GMT -5
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 13, 2011 7:28:50 GMT -5
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Post by Beatboks on Jan 13, 2011 7:33:41 GMT -5
Yeah I've made about 13 edits to correct but each time seem to be getting a completely different page attached to the one I'm trying to copy> I think I know have all but the 2 to the middle statement correct. For some reason it's only seeming to put up the correct image if I completely log out of photbucket between each copy. otherwise i'm constantly loading the same image. About to hopefully fix last 2.
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 13, 2011 7:35:28 GMT -5
Yeah I've made about 13 edits to correct but each time seem to be getting a completely different page attached to the one I'm trying to copy> I think I know have all but the 2 to the middle statement correct. For some reason it's only seeming to put up the correct image if I completely log out of photbucket between each copy. otherwise i'm constantly loading the same image. About to hopefully fix last 2. Alright.
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Post by Beatboks on Jan 13, 2011 7:39:52 GMT -5
damn that was painful. anyone have an idea how I get back the last hour and a half of wasted life (trying to link 7 lousy scans). At my age I can't afford to expend that much time, I don't have it to spare
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 13, 2011 7:42:00 GMT -5
Well they're working now at least.
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 13, 2011 7:45:38 GMT -5
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Post by Beatboks on Jan 13, 2011 7:49:23 GMT -5
Yeah it's precisely because of shit like that, that I asked for Marks full battle staff power that k4tz said put out of range. Without the ability to make McNinja a magnet and therefore the thing that metal is going to hit no matter where he moves. I've got a snowballs chance in hell of tagging him. In the scans that are now correct, Dumas is tuned into a magnet to attract peacekeepers helmet and Catman is tuned into a magnet that attracts him to a police car. Like I said no way can McNinja dodge if he's attracting the projectile in the first place. If he moves the projectile will change direction to his new position.
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Post by Beatboks on Jan 13, 2011 7:51:12 GMT -5
Which is precisely why I'm not planning on getting close enough to him (unless I absolutely have to) for him to get the drop on me
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 13, 2011 7:56:25 GMT -5
Yeah it's precisely because of shit like that, that I asked for Marks full battle staff power that k4tz said put out of range. Without the ability to make McNinja a magnet and therefore the thing that metal is going to hit no matter where he moves. I've got a snowballs chance in hell of tagging him. In the scans that are now correct, Dumas is tuned into a magnet to attract peacekeepers helmet and Catman is tuned into a magnet that attracts him to a police car. Like I said no way can McNinja dodge if he's attracting the projectile in the first place. If he moves the projectile will change direction to his new position. And thanks to McNinja's speed, and agility he can keep on dodging them until he finds Mark. Both of those guys were caught off guard by the sudden magnetic attacks, which won't work on McNinja due to his training and reaction times.
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Post by Beatboks on Jan 13, 2011 8:11:32 GMT -5
An Alley is a pretty confined place. The distance between McNinja and the metal cans isn't going to be great. If they're already moving in his direction and he swiftly moves right they just turn right but are still as close when they turn. I don't see how he's going to dodge and say get to the top of a building overlooking him or some such. A magnet on metal is more is going to work better than a target locked or heat seeking missile. Unless McNinja can somehow get close enough to a magnet that's more powerful he can't dodge them.
As for Catman and Dumas being caught by surprise, both scans were from the ends of their respective issues (page 19 and 20). In issue 4 the fight with Dumas started on about page 12 while Catman fight started on page 15. They both knew what mark was capable of. Dumas was caught a little by surprise since he was Mark's prime enemy and thought he was shielded from the pulse, this being teh first time Mark had created the field around someone else. As for training. Dumas is a couple of centuries old and has trained for most his life.
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 13, 2011 8:22:21 GMT -5
Duma clearly didn't expect the helmet to hit him(he stated something about him being immune to the magnetic attacks) And Catman was running away.
That scan a posted to show McNinja's dodging ability was from him dodging in arrows in a cramped hall. He's acrobatic enough to easily get on top of a building.
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Post by Beatboks on Jan 13, 2011 8:54:36 GMT -5
Duma clearly didn't expect the helmet to hit him(he stated something about him being immune to the magnetic attacks) And Catman was running away. That scan a posted to show McNinja's dodging ability was from him dodging in arrows in a cramped hall. He's acrobatic enough to easily get on top of a building. Yes but those arrows weren't attracted to him. If he moved they didn't change direction and move with him. This isn't someone throwing things at McNinja, it's someone who's hit him unknowingly with a force that has made McNinja his own enemy. McNinja is the one attracting things. He could very well be attracted to the building if he goes after Mark (slowing him down and the tins are still following him. My point was for McNinja to dodge something he's actually attracting to him by his mere presence he's have to be able to get far enough away from all the metal to break the attraction field. The confined makes this harder. If the flash were made a magnet and small metal filings were near him he wouldn't be able to dodge them (something larger yes he could simply run fast enough that the force of magnetics on the metal was less than the force of gravity on it) because the filings would move at his speed in his direction wherever and whenever he changed it. Unless McNinja's speed is supersonic or greater He can't simplty "avoid" somehting He's attracting. Dumas didn't expect the magnetic pulse to work on him because he expected Mark to use it the same way he had in their other encounters, as a simple energy attack. mark had come up with a new approach, to move the magnetic field and charge Dumas making him a magnet. He didn't know that was an application that Mark would use. Mark's arch enemy who knew how Mark usually fought (and had bested him before) didn't expect him to use his weapon that way. Someone with basic knowledge of his weapons but not his methods is going to fair no better. If McNinja starts heading to the top of the building Mark uses another pulse to propel himself in the air, or leap to another building. s1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff368/beatboks01/?action=view¤t=Manhunterpulseleap.jpgs1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff368/beatboks01/?action=view¤t=Manhunterescapebangedfoot.jpg
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 13, 2011 9:01:26 GMT -5
If the metal stuff going after McNinja starts to become a problem he could also swat the majority of it down. He's fast enough to do so. drmcninja.com/comics/2008-09-1213p14.jpgIf the crap is following him around, he'll notice. Dr.McNinja is quick to strike and insanely agile, he's going to do much better than some random ninja, and he surely isn't going to let himself get oneshotted. You claimed McNinja's speed is why Mark wouldn't let him get close, so why would Mark suddenly be faster McNinja?
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Post by Beatboks on Jan 13, 2011 9:11:52 GMT -5
If the metal stuff going after McNinja starts to become a problem he could also swat the majority of it down. He's fast enough to do so. drmcninja.com/comics/2008-09-1213p14.jpgIf the crap is following him around, he'll notice. Dr.McNinja is quick to strike and insanely agile, he's going to do much better than some random ninja, and he surely isn't going to let himself get oneshotted. You claimed McNinja's speed is why Mark wouldn't let him get close, so why would Mark suddenly be faster McNinja? Never said he'd be faster. Said that's Why i wanted an attack from a distance. If Mark's four or five stroies (or more) away from the action he can make a clean get away once McNinja makes a move toward him. he may have even started once he pulsed him and simply monitored him from afar with the onmi mic. Worst case scenario McNinja starts getting too close, Mar's made him a magnet so he ste;s the Baton to the opposite polarity and as fast as McNinja comes too him mark moves away (courtesy of McNinja's own speed). It's after midnight here and I gotta work 2morrow catch on theflip side.
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 13, 2011 9:15:11 GMT -5
If the metal stuff going after McNinja starts to become a problem he could also swat the majority of it down. He's fast enough to do so. drmcninja.com/comics/2008-09-1213p14.jpgIf the crap is following him around, he'll notice. Dr.McNinja is quick to strike and insanely agile, he's going to do much better than some random ninja, and he surely isn't going to let himself get oneshotted. You claimed McNinja's speed is why Mark wouldn't let him get close, so why would Mark suddenly be faster McNinja? Never said he'd be faster. Said that's Why i wanted an attack from a distance. If Mark's four or five stroies (or more) away from the action he can make a clean get away once McNinja makes a move toward him. he may have even started once he pulsed him and simply monitored him from afar with the onmi mic. Worst case scenario McNinja starts getting too close, Mar's made him a magnet so he ste;s the Baton to the opposite polarity and as fast as McNinja comes too him mark moves away (courtesy of McNinja's own speed). It's after midnight here and I gotta work 2morrow catch on theflip side. Alright. Just a quick question for when you get back. Does Mark usually fight like this?
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Post by Beatboks on Jan 14, 2011 4:07:35 GMT -5
Mark was a bounty hunter with no powers who hunted super powered criminals. He usually boned up on who he was after and planned accordingly. In a couple of issues he actually wore a suit of armor like Rocket Red/ Ironman because he believed he required it against the quarry he was chasing www.comicvine.com/manhunter-/37-30970/Mark would do what ever he thought he needed to take down his prey. Remember he's a former super villain who went up against the Satellite era JLA (as both Privateer and Star-tsar
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