Silver
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Post by Silver on Aug 30, 2011 7:18:26 GMT -5
VenomVS Carnage Rules: - Eddie Brock as Venom.
- Random encounter. No prep.
- Morals apply.
- Victory by KO or death.
- Battle takes place in Arena 6. A=Venom. B=Carnage.
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 30, 2011 7:47:08 GMT -5
Eddie is the more intelligent symbiote host of the two (and likely the most versatile host-symbiote combo ever), but Carnage flat out outpowers him. Eddie's experiencd and skill would likely keep him in the fight for a while, but unfortunately the two-dimensional monstrosity that is Carnage will eventually put him down.
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Silver
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Post by Silver on Aug 30, 2011 8:01:26 GMT -5
unfortunately the two-dimensional monstrosity that is Carnage LOL. Not a Carnage fan, I take it? I agree with your first point though. Brock/Venom is far and away more creative with his abilities. |
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Post by Admin on Aug 30, 2011 8:25:23 GMT -5
In the comics: A stalemate/Eddie takes the edge.
Logically: Eddie puts up a good fight and is far more resourceful with the symbiote, but Carnage has him outclassed physically.
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 30, 2011 8:37:36 GMT -5
@ Silver - Aside from his introductory storyarc, he always was pointless to me.
@ K4tz - Maximum Carnage notwithstanding, they have fought a few times in the comics and Venom still got beat up.
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Post by Admin on Aug 30, 2011 8:51:57 GMT -5
I'm aware, but a vast amount has them at virtual evens, and Eddie often finding a means to outsmart them. So, despite Carnage being created as his (vastly) physical superior, the dialogue in comics tends to put them on a more fair level from what I've seen displayed.
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 30, 2011 8:54:41 GMT -5
Unless I misremember (it's been a while, so it's possible), Carnage had Venom on chokehold in Venom vs Carnage, and he was flat out defeated in Carnage Unlimited. And there's also the classic Carnage vs Venom + Spider-Man fights.
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Post by Admin on Aug 30, 2011 8:56:03 GMT -5
He basically ragdolled him around, but if my memory serves me right, Brock was trying to talk to Carnage about his grandchild, and not fight.
And like I said, there's obviously examples showing otherwise, but there's a handful off the top of my head where I recall it being more balanced than it should be.
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 30, 2011 8:58:38 GMT -5
The first rule of CL is that we don't talk about Maximum Carnage.
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Silver
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Post by Silver on Aug 30, 2011 8:59:07 GMT -5
@ Silver - Aside from his introductory storyarc, he always was pointless to me. I agree that he was rather repetitive and lacked the intrigue that Brock had. but if my memory serves me right, Brock was trying to talk to Carnage about his grandchild, and not fight. This is how I remember it also. |
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Post by Admin on Aug 30, 2011 8:59:39 GMT -5
The first rule of CL is that we don't talk about Maximum Carnage. It's because Deathlok is in it, isn't it?  |
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 30, 2011 9:06:59 GMT -5
LOL. I don't mind Deathlok, honestly.
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Silver
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Post by Silver on Aug 30, 2011 9:26:18 GMT -5
Anyone have an estimate win ratio out of 10 for either side?
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 30, 2011 9:28:06 GMT -5
Carnage 8.5-9/10.
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Silver
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Post by Silver on Aug 30, 2011 9:37:49 GMT -5
...Lies.
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whacknasty
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Post by whacknasty on Aug 30, 2011 10:27:34 GMT -5
Is it just me... Or do the symbiotes (especially Venom) always seem to be smiling/grinning manically...? Lol.
So was Carnage ever able to cut Venom with one of his arm sword/axe constructs?
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InnerVenom123
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Aug 30, 2011 11:37:15 GMT -5
Like K4 said, they're more on an even basis in some comics, and like Morph said, in others they're not.
Oh, and in "Venom/Carnage", Venom threw Carnage in the way of a subway train. Random fact. I lol'd.
Logically Carnage wins.
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