Killshot Caine
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Post by Killshot Caine on Dec 21, 2010 20:16:47 GMT -5
Rules
-We are using Savage Hulk and (stable pre-Dark Reign) Sentry.
-Morals don't apply
-Kill,KO,or Incapacitation to win
-Fight Takes Place in New York City
who wins?
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 21, 2010 20:17:34 GMT -5
I'd say Sentry should win. Despite how much I hate him.
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Post by Morpheus on Dec 21, 2010 20:20:07 GMT -5
Hasn't the Sentry beaten down the Savage version like twice already? I could understand a debate in World War Hulk vs Sentry, but regular Hulk cannot even fight Sentry due to the pacifying aura the Sentry emits.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Dec 21, 2010 20:20:55 GMT -5
Sentry has the speed advantage, right? Theoretically, Hulk shouldn't be able to land a hit.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 21, 2010 20:21:48 GMT -5
He's just under Superman accross the board, speed and all. He should win in my opinion.
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Post by Morpheus on Dec 21, 2010 20:23:33 GMT -5
By rights, Sentry shouldn't have lost against WWH, either. He deliberately directed himself onto the Hulk's fists. It was, to put it blunt, dumb.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 21, 2010 20:26:26 GMT -5
Well, Sentry never had much of Brain.
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Post by Morpheus on Dec 21, 2010 20:31:45 GMT -5
That was more a writing deficiency rather than in-character poor choice on his behalf.
But yes, for a certified genius, he's never shown intellect of that magnitude, at all.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 21, 2010 20:32:58 GMT -5
If someone never shows he is a genius ever in his stories. Then his alledged status as a "genius" is nothing but hot air.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Dec 21, 2010 20:38:54 GMT -5
I still don't understand why slow people can hit fast people. Like when someone of the Hulk's speed swings, Sentry charges at him, he should easily have enough reflexes to dodge fly to England and back and hit him before he moves his fist an inch. I mean he's not faster than a bullet is he? That's what I try to do in my writing. If someone is fast, someone slow will never hit them unless there is a device making it so. Everyday mishaps will not work in my book.
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Post by Morpheus on Dec 21, 2010 20:39:47 GMT -5
No argument there. I've never read a story where Sentry actually demonstrated intellect that high, regardless of his handbook listing.
Still, you don't have to be a genius to actuall dodge a punch instead of letting yourself to get hit. Which is what he did - intentionally - against WWH.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 21, 2010 20:40:09 GMT -5
Reaction and range of movement can allow a slower opponent the ability to hit a faster one, if the faster one isn't much faster.
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Post by Admin on Dec 21, 2010 20:40:47 GMT -5
I still don't understand why slow people can hit fast people. Like when someone of the Hulk's speed swings, Sentry charges at him, he should easily have enough reflexes to dodge fly to England and back and hit him before he moves his fist an inch. I mean he's not faster than a bullet is he? That's what I try to do in my writing. If someone is fast, someone slow will never hit them unless there is a device making it so. Everyday mishaps will not work in my book. It has always been my understanding that Hulk's speed and reflexes also increased. Although, I agree he shouldn't be able to tag speedsters in full motion unless they: A) Run into his strike B) Get hit by a thunderclap |
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Post by Morpheus on Dec 21, 2010 20:41:16 GMT -5
I still don't understand why slow people can hit fast people. Like when someone of the Hulk's speed swings, Sentry charges at him, he should easily have enough reflexes to dodge fly to England and back and hit him before he moves his fist an inch. I mean he's not faster than a bullet is he? That's what I try to do in my writing. If someone is fast, someone slow will never hit them unless there is a device making it so. Everyday mishaps will not work in my book.
Cool fight, but rather poorly written to make it open ended. |
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Killshot Caine
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Post by Killshot Caine on Dec 21, 2010 20:42:05 GMT -5
Could any version of Hulk beat Sentry?
and I mean a Sentry that's fighting to the best of his ability?
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Post by Morpheus on Dec 21, 2010 20:43:01 GMT -5
I still don't understand why slow people can hit fast people. Like when someone of the Hulk's speed swings, Sentry charges at him, he should easily have enough reflexes to dodge fly to England and back and hit him before he moves his fist an inch. I mean he's not faster than a bullet is he? That's what I try to do in my writing. If someone is fast, someone slow will never hit them unless there is a device making it so. Everyday mishaps will not work in my book. It has always been my understanding that Hulk's speed and reflexes also increased. Although, I agree he shouldn't be able to tag speedsters in full motion unless they: A) Run into his strike B) Get hit by a thunderclap
His reflexes are as good as the story needs them to be, and most importantly, the reflexes of his (more powerful) enemies are much lower than they should normally be. |
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Post by Killshot Caine on Dec 21, 2010 20:45:00 GMT -5
Could any version of Hulk beat Sentry? and I mean a Sentry that's fighting to the best of his ability? |
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Post by Morpheus on Dec 21, 2010 20:45:26 GMT -5
Could any version of Hulk beat Sentry? and I mean a Sentry that's fighting to the best of his ability? |
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Post by Killshot Caine on Dec 21, 2010 20:46:56 GMT -5
Could any version of Hulk beat Sentry? and I mean a Sentry that's fighting to the best of his ability? This is how I feel about a fight between Hulk and Sentry but since on "other" forums I have actually had to defend Sentry against someone who is inferior to him in all ways that matter, I thought I should ask you guys. |
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Post by Morpheus on Dec 21, 2010 20:48:01 GMT -5
All the strength in the world doesn't do any good if you keep punching the air. Which is how a fight between every version of the Hulk (including WWH, War Hulk, and probably CU Hulk, even though that version is practically featless), and a Sentry fighting at his best should go. This is how I feel about a fight between Hulk and Sentry but since on "other" forums I have actually had to defend Sentry against someone who is inferior to him in all ways that matter, I thought I should ask you guys. |
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