JediXMan
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Post by JediXMan on Jun 22, 2011 16:10:20 GMT -5
Because there was no thread for it already; shame on you. Yes, you. You know who you are.
Anyway, I just recently got into it. Halfway through volume 2 now (and by volume 2, I mean volume 2 of the Abostule Edition. Each volume has 20 issues)
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 22, 2011 16:11:23 GMT -5
Sandman is awesome. But then nearly everything Gaiman writes is pure awesome.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 22, 2011 16:12:39 GMT -5
Because there was no thread for it already; shame on you. Yes, you. You know who you are. /Eyes Morph.
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 16:16:31 GMT -5
LOL, Phantom.
So you are reading the issues in between the ending of a Season of Mists and the beginning of A Game of You, eh?
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Post by JediXMan on Jun 22, 2011 16:23:22 GMT -5
LOL, Phantom.
So you are reading the issues in between the ending of a Season of Mists and the beginning of A Game of You, eh? Just looked. I'm actually on chapter four of A Game of You (#35). I thought I was half, judging by the bookmark, but forgot to account for the bios and notes from Gaiman in the end, which take up over a hundred pages by themselves.
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 16:25:48 GMT -5
A Game of You is the arc in which Dream's absence is nearly overwhelming, at least in a first read, but when he does appear, it's powerful. It wasn't a favourite while I was first reading the series, but the story grew on me with time.
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Post by JediXMan on Jun 22, 2011 16:28:18 GMT -5
A Game of You is the arc in which Dream's absence is nearly overwhelming, at least in a first read, but when he does appear, it's powerful. It wasn't a favourite while I was first reading the series, but the story grew on me with time. Reading it now, I do miss Morpheus' appearances. He's just kind this thing that we know is around, but isn't there. Thus far, I would call it my least favorite arc, but it's not horrible. Just my least favorite when compared to the others.
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 16:50:35 GMT -5
I'd rank A Season of Mists as my favourite, but Sandman # 13 (Men of Good Fortune) is likely the best single issue I've ever read.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 22, 2011 16:52:54 GMT -5
I'd rank A Season of Mists as my favourite, but Sandman # 13 (Men of Good Fortune) is likely the best single issue I've ever read. I support that.
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Post by JediXMan on Jun 22, 2011 16:53:21 GMT -5
I'd rank A Season of Mists as my favourite, but Sandman # 13 (Men of Good Fortune) is likely the best single issue I've ever read. Thus far, I would say Men of Good Fortune is my favorite issue in this series.
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 16:55:56 GMT -5
I'd rank A Season of Mists as my favourite, but Sandman # 13 (Men of Good Fortune) is likely the best single issue I've ever read. I support that. Wow, I didn't know you also liked # 13 that much.
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 16:58:05 GMT -5
I'd rank A Season of Mists as my favourite, but Sandman # 13 (Men of Good Fortune) is likely the best single issue I've ever read. Thus far, I would say Men of Good Fortune is my favorite issue in this series. Ha, it seems we are all in agreement.Generally speaking, nearly all the standalone issues are truly special and memorable.
The Sound of her Wings (Death's debut), is also a personal favourite of mine.
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Post by JediXMan on Jun 22, 2011 17:02:07 GMT -5
Thus far, I would say Men of Good Fortune is my favorite issue in this series. Ha, it seems we are all in agreement.Generally speaking, nearly all the standalone issues are truly special and memorable.
The Sound of her Wings (Death's debut), is also a personal favourite of mine.I loved Men of Good Fortune. And I loved that Morpheus met Hob before going down to Hell. The Sound of her Wings made me like Death. I'd like to read other comics she's in. In fact, I'm trying to go deeper into the Endless stories. I have a great love for consistent stories that have a strong continuity. Stories that reference others are just really nice to me. While the standalone issues aren't in order, they do reference and are referenced by the main stories. This is actually what attracted me to Sandman in the first place.
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 17:13:57 GMT -5
Death has two mini-series of her own (both are quite good), as well as appearances in Endless Nights, an anthology of stories, each starring one of the seven Endless, at various points in time. I think you'd enjoy it. And I'm referring strictly to series written by Gaiman himself.
Yes, reading Sandman a second time (even more so than the first, since you peak up on many things you otherwise missed earlier) can be an equally rewarding experience. Another enjoyable aspect is that it manages to be a rather self-contained universe, yet it integrates characters from mainstream DC with a great measure of success without making their appearances feel far-fetched.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 22, 2011 17:18:32 GMT -5
Wow, I didn't know you also liked # 13 that much. I'm pretty sure we've discussed it before... But yes, it was a pretty lovely issue. In a way, I think the character of Hob Gadling, and his neverending hope for life is a pretty apt metaphor for the series itself. Sandman features some of the most depressing moments I have ever read, but Gaiman always manages to turn them around so that we don't focus on the sadness, but on the silver lining (For example, the old man talking to Lucifer at the beach was one that hit me pretty hard). I kinda hate Gaiman for overusing that a bit both there and in his other work, but you can't deny the mastery with which he pulls it off.
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Post by JediXMan on Jun 22, 2011 17:22:28 GMT -5
Death has two mini-series of her own (both are quite good), as well as appearances in Endless Nights, an anthology of stories, each starring one of the seven Endless, at various points in time. I think you'd enjoy it. And I'm referring strictly to series written by Gaiman himself.
Yes, reading Sandman a second time (even more so than the first, since you peak up on many things you otherwise missed earlier) can be an equally rewarding experience. Another enjoyable aspect is that it manages to be a rather self-contained universe, yet it integrates characters from mainstream DC with a great measure of success without making their appearances feel far-fetched. Hm. Does the Absolute Death edition include those minis? Where does Lucifer fall into the Endless saga? Are the comics not written by Gaiman but in the saga inferior?
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 17:24:51 GMT -5
Very nice analysis.
Without spoiling it for JediXman, I'd say Bob narrating his dream (I won't reveal the character he talks to) in # 75 is another bittersweet moment that I vividly recall.
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 17:29:56 GMT -5
Death has two mini-series of her own (both are quite good), as well as appearances in Endless Nights, an anthology of stories, each starring one of the seven Endless, at various points in time. I think you'd enjoy it. And I'm referring strictly to series written by Gaiman himself.
Yes, reading Sandman a second time (even more so than the first, since you peak up on many things you otherwise missed earlier) can be an equally rewarding experience. Another enjoyable aspect is that it manages to be a rather self-contained universe, yet it integrates characters from mainstream DC with a great measure of success without making their appearances feel far-fetched. Hm. Does the Absolute Death edition include those minis? Where does Lucifer fall into the Endless saga? Are the comics not written by Gaiman but in the saga inferior? Yes, Absolute Death includes both mini-series.
I haven't read many things that include the Endless (be it in major, or minor parts) that were not written by Gaiman, so I cannot comment.
Lucifer (despite Phantom's disapproval for the continuity issues of the series) is yet another favourite of mine, one I would highly recommend. Much like Sandman, it does go back and forth in time, much like it would be expected from a series focusing on a character with timeless nature such as the Morningstar. You can read it right after completing Sandman (even though the series does stand on its own, there are several references, cameos and guests from Sandman), as a very fine accompanying piece.
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Post by JediXMan on Jun 22, 2011 17:32:51 GMT -5
Hm. Does the Absolute Death edition include those minis? Where does Lucifer fall into the Endless saga? Are the comics not written by Gaiman but in the saga inferior? Yes, Absolute Death includes both mini-series.
I haven't read many things that include the Endless (be it in major, or minor parts) that were not written by Gaiman, so I cannot comment.
Lucifer (despite Phantom's disapproval for the continuity issues of the series) is yet another favourite of mine, one I would highly recommend. Much like Sandman, it does go back and forth in time, much like it would be expected from a series focusing on a character with timeless nature such as the Morningstar. You can read it right after completing Sandman (even though the series does stand on its own, there are several references, cameos and guests from Sandman), as a very fine accompanying piece.
So would you suggest finishing Sandman before trying anything else concerning the Endless or Lucifer?
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 17:37:21 GMT -5
As far as I know, the Endless never really star at anything else, sans Sandman and Endless Nights, so your quest won't be a long one, either way. The Dreaming, and its supporting characters did get a series of their own for a respectable amount of time (5 years or so), but I don't believe the Endless featured majorly in it.
Now, since a couple of stories from Endless Nights occur after the ending of the Sandman on-going, I'd advise to read it immediately after you complete the main series. Likewise for Lucifer. Lucifer actually begins with a 3 issue mini-series, titled "The Morningstar option" which, chronologically, is also set after the ending of the Sandman.
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