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Post by Erik-El on Oct 17, 2012 23:48:16 GMT -5
Some bullet points for eventual measurements on Wonder Woman. 1) She is limited in power with her bracelets on. 2) Apollo stated in WW 13 that Wonder Woman's power would put Hercules to shame (referring to him as the Lion, his symbol). 3) This is just speculation right now but the next issue of Justice League, Superman is going to fight Wonder Woman and if she can keep up with her bracelets on, that should mean she would beat him with the bracelets off. Unless he holds back and she doesn't He is bloodlusted under Cheetah's control. Boom!
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Post by CitizenBane on Oct 18, 2012 0:12:06 GMT -5
Johns has said Martian Manhunter's fight with the League will be explored in JLA when it comes out. I am waiting for that to find some indicator of his power levels in the new 52.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 18, 2012 0:22:25 GMT -5
Based on what one shot of the fight, he seems more powerful than the entire JL.
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Post by CitizenBane on Oct 18, 2012 8:13:06 GMT -5
The Superman benchpress feat just ruins the conceptualization of power levels for so many other characters. If Clark is that absurdly powerful, how much more powerful is someone like J'onn if he can fight the entire League at once? How much more powerful are people like Darkseid and Helspont if they can slap him around as if he were an insect to them?
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 18, 2012 12:52:12 GMT -5
The Superman benchpress feat just ruins the conceptualization of power levels for so many other characters. If Clark is that absurdly powerful, how much more powerful is someone like J'onn if he can fight the entire League at once? How much more powerful are people like Darkseid and Helspont if they can slap him around as if he were an insect to them? Superman was holding back?
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Post by CitizenBane on Oct 18, 2012 13:00:16 GMT -5
The Superman benchpress feat just ruins the conceptualization of power levels for so many other characters. If Clark is that absurdly powerful, how much more powerful is someone like J'onn if he can fight the entire League at once? How much more powerful are people like Darkseid and Helspont if they can slap him around as if he were an insect to them? Superman was holding back? We'll have to wait until February to see. I don't know whether the League was holding back against J'onn or not, but there's an indicator that they might not have been; Diana was using her sword in that fight and War taught her to never raise a sword against a man unless she intended to end his life with it.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 18, 2012 13:15:21 GMT -5
Lol that is true. I was just offering that overused excuse for Superman as a joke.
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Post by creator on Oct 18, 2012 16:29:27 GMT -5
The Superman benchpress feat just ruins the conceptualization of power levels for so many other characters. If Clark is that absurdly powerful, how much more powerful is someone like J'onn if he can fight the entire League at once? How much more powerful are people like Darkseid and Helspont if they can slap him around as if he were an insect to them? This is why it is essential for all the character power levels to be in a "bible" for the editors so a new writer does not overstate a characters power level and cause issues.
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Post by Prophet626 on Oct 18, 2012 22:10:26 GMT -5
I think Deadpool should be in Rank 6 Venom (Eddie Brock) Rank 10 Carnage maybe rank 10 or 11 Ms Marvel maybe rank 15 Ares (Marvel) maybe Rank 15 as well Paladin (marvel) maybe rank 5 Wrecking Crew maybe about rank 13 Wrecker about 14? Hydra Bob Rank 1
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Post by creator on Oct 18, 2012 22:15:10 GMT -5
I think Deadpool should be in Rank 6 Venom (Eddie Brock) Rank 10 Carnage maybe rank 10 or 11 Ms Marvel maybe rank 15 Ares (Marvel) maybe Rank 15 as well Paladin (marvel) maybe rank 5 Wrecking Crew maybe about rank 13 Wrecker about 14? Hydra Bob Rank 1 Do you have any scans of their strength feats you can share with us. Scans can be ranked and a fact based scoring can be made. Venom (Brock) in theory should be slightly superior to Spider-Man. Most of the Wrecking Crew are likely to be around the same level as Venom from some of the scans I remember. Paladin is likely to be similar to Cap America based on his actual feats.
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Post by Prophet626 on Oct 18, 2012 22:47:45 GMT -5
Not anymore, my computer stopped working and I lost everything.
I ranked Venom 10 because imo he is above everyone that is ranked 9 and yet Spiderman is in Rank 8 and I think he should be bump up to at the least rank 9.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 18, 2012 22:54:36 GMT -5
Changes must be backed up with evidence foo!
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Post by Strafe Prower on Oct 29, 2012 0:09:17 GMT -5
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 29, 2012 1:26:25 GMT -5
Your first link is not working Strafe.
And defeating WW with something as weak as a sonic scream that makes you feel the pain of her failed execution is pretty BS. WW already endured that a hundred fold at the hands of Darkseid in his torture device. He and his men said WW was enduring more than any human could and still live and WW still was lucid and combat ready.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Oct 29, 2012 1:36:21 GMT -5
I updated it.
Her scream makes you feel the pain of the dead. It's the same power that Silver Banshee, the superman villain, has. I don't see how it's questionable.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 29, 2012 1:39:21 GMT -5
I updated it. Her scream makes you feel the pain of the dead. It's the same power that Silver Banshee, the superman villain, has. I don't see how it's questionable. They do not appear to be the same based on the bios. The one you posted makes you experience the trauma that the character felt as she was killed. This leads me to believe there is a magical connection which is problem number two. WW is resistant to magic.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Oct 29, 2012 1:41:24 GMT -5
I updated it. Her scream makes you feel the pain of the dead. It's the same power that Silver Banshee, the superman villain, has. I don't see how it's questionable. They do not appear to be the same based on the bios. The one you posted makes you experience the trauma that the character felt as she was killed. This leads me to believe there is a magical connection which is problem number two. WW is resistant to magic. The power has a mystical source, but it's output is more energy manipulation.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 29, 2012 1:42:37 GMT -5
They do not appear to be the same based on the bios. The one you posted makes you experience the trauma that the character felt as she was killed. This leads me to believe there is a magical connection which is problem number two. WW is resistant to magic. The power has a mystical source, but it's output is more energy manipulation. On that note, her power did not appear more devastating than any of the Silver Swans. Checkmate.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Oct 29, 2012 1:45:54 GMT -5
The power has a mystical source, but it's output is more energy manipulation. On that note, her power did not appear more devastating than any of the Silver Swans. Checkmate. I can't argue that, as I don't care about WW villains sans Cheetah, Ares, and Circe Creator might be able to better debate this with you, as he might know more about Silver Banshee.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 29, 2012 1:47:27 GMT -5
On that note, her power did not appear more devastating than any of the Silver Swans. Checkmate. I can't argue that, as I don't care about WW villains sans Cheetah, Ares, and Circe Creator might be able to better debate this with you, as he might know more about Silver Banshee. <-- Prepares for battle by polishing his razor tiara.Bring it!
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