spidey_17
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 17, 2010 18:12:35 GMT -5
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If it was for my fanboy in me, i wouldn't say that the team would win at all. But i don't think it's strange to believe that the team would hard win. They don't even know who they are facing and what he can do. And i think i have explained with feats, why i believe it will be hard. =]
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Nov 17, 2010 18:26:00 GMT -5
the fanboy part was a half-joke not an insult at all. You know I respect your opinion. Even when I completely disagree. I'd think that by now you'd be used to my writting style This just another case of me not agreeing with you at all about a spiderman topic. Because, as I've often said, I think you have a tendency to overstimate spider-man, something you've done very often. This team is composed of characters that could each alone go to toe with him (even if some would not win). This isn't you exactly being a fanboy, but being a diehard fan of something can lead to a different perpective. Which is why I'm still arguing this, because to me saying it will be hard with all of them working together is ridiculous, especially with what they are packing.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 17, 2010 18:41:09 GMT -5
Oh, i see, lol.
I don't think i overestimate him. I have stopped doing that, months ago. If you notice in many of my debates, especially against Deadcool, you will notice that i do not only debate against spider-man, but i do it in a way that i seem like a hater. Also, if i would overestimate him, then i wouldn't believe that while in character, he would lose to cap, or batman and other street levelers, that are inferior to him physically. Added to all these, i don't believe i overestimate him, here either. I said that it will be hard for the team to beat him because they will have a hard time landing any hit in him. Here we are talking about a character, who at classic levels, he dodged bullets with ease. Now his reflexes have been increased due to the fact that we are using the Other spidey. You know that no one in the team is as fast as a bullet. And of course we have the improved spider-sense. Here spidey does not only sense things, he actually knows them. So a combination of his reflexes that can be used more effectively( due to training that make him more focused ), his great agility and his improved spider-sense, then i see the team having an extremely hard time landing any hit on Pete. That does not mean the can not win though. =]
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Nov 17, 2010 18:58:49 GMT -5
The thing is they are all on him, Drizzt has his gauntlets, that triples his speed and I've already exposed that he is faster then any human. The rest of team are all super-human, some very much so (like Cap)
And they are all on him. That's why it's easy. Precog or not, he's alone and his body isn't that fast and they are all very skilled to.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 17, 2010 19:06:10 GMT -5
I understand your point and that's why i believe that the team will win. But spidey, with the help of his precognition, he will know what the team will attempt to do before they do it. And if they start attacking one after the other, spidey will move at directions with his full speed and agility, so he will stay out of their reach. If they used their projectiles, spidey will be able to dodge those too. He has been able to dodge multiple bullets and stuff like that in the past, from many directions. He also has his webbing and his wrist shooter, that will allow him to slow them down or force them to dodge so they won't try to attack. Spider-man can do many things to counter them, but in the end he will lose. =]
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Post by Power NeXus on Nov 17, 2010 19:11:55 GMT -5
I see. But i don't see any feats that put those beasts on the same level as spidey's reflexes. Also just because spider-man could not beat them, it does not mean he can not beat Drizzt or at least dodged him. Especially with his enhanced spider-sense. Those are some good feats. But even DD had caught arrows but his reaction is not faster than spidey's. Spidey had also dodge electrical attacsk from Electro. And he could those things before he get the enhancements of the other. Now he is faster combined with a spider-sense that allow him to know what will happen in the future. I have already said that the team will win. You can read that in 2 of my posts. I just don't agree it will be easy against this version of spidey. He is good, fast and skilled enough to take out some members like Cyclops. =] You don't think this version of Spider-Man could take out Cyclops? I've seen entire pages worth of debate over whether or not regular Spider-Man (no Other powers and no What If skills) could dodge Cyke's blasts. There are fairly good arguments going both ways. But when Spider-Man is faster than ever before, and his spider-sense is so advanced that he knows someone is going to attack him before they themselves know, you still think Cyclops could take him down?
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 17, 2010 19:14:41 GMT -5
I didn't say that Cyke will take him out. I think you misread my post. I actually said that Pete will take Cyke out. =]
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Post by Silver on Nov 18, 2010 8:28:18 GMT -5
I think the Team wins but by no means easily. Post-Other SpiderMan with the freaking Iron Spider armor and his What If skills and enhanced Spider sense? That would be a monster in a fight.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 18, 2010 8:35:10 GMT -5
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Post by Silver on Nov 18, 2010 11:42:35 GMT -5
@spidey: Just imagine if we gave this What If/Post-Other/Iron Spider SpiderMan Reed Richard's resources and a few weeks prep?
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 18, 2010 18:32:20 GMT -5
0_0 Is it necessary to imagine that? 0_0
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Post by Power NeXus on Nov 19, 2010 0:12:13 GMT -5
@spidey: Just imagine if we gave this What If/Post-Other/Iron Spider SpiderMan Reed Richard's resources and a few weeks prep? You'd have to put together a team of full-scale Avengers to take down that guy.
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Post by Power NeXus on Nov 19, 2010 0:12:36 GMT -5
I didn't say that Cyke will take him out. I think you misread my post. I actually said that Pete will take Cyke out. =] Whoops. My bad
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 19, 2010 6:51:04 GMT -5
It's ok!
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Post by lagoon_boy on Nov 19, 2010 8:06:21 GMT -5
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Post by Power NeXus on Nov 19, 2010 10:00:23 GMT -5
[ img ]http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff32/Tusourd/StevenSegal.jpg[ / img ] You need to take out the spaces for that to work.
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 19, 2010 15:23:30 GMT -5
Regular Spider-Man could evade Cyclops' blasts. People do it all the time. The blasts themselves are light speed, but people bullet time them just like.... Well bullets.
Also, as far as the OP. This particular Spider-Man would not need to be told anything about his opponents. He would already know.
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