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Post by NexusOfLight on May 24, 2011 18:05:50 GMT -5
The Academy's fight vs Sinister Six was absolutely disgusting. Surely you didn't expect anything other than that. They got destroyed. The Six fight Spidey on the daily, what are some kids gonna do? It went down exactly how I thought it'd go down, except better 'cuz the Six--especially Doc Ock--wit that insane prep. Criminal mastermind. I wonder what's going to happen to her after that incident with the cops? Hopefully she's not M.I.A. because she really needs some showings. If that happens, I'll probably cry a bit. On the inside at least. With this whole thing goin' on with Asgard, I'd like to see some more face time with her.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2011 18:24:33 GMT -5
"Surely you didn't expect anything other than that. They got destroyed. The Six fight Spidey on the daily, what are some kids gonna do? It went down exactly how I thought it'd go down, except better 'cuz the Six--especially Doc Ock--wit that insane prep. Criminal mastermind." Rhino defeated by a triceratops?
No sir.
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Post by NexusOfLight on May 24, 2011 18:33:56 GMT -5
See, the genius behind that fight was that the Six were playin' the Academy the whole time. Believing that Reptil could actually beat Rhino is falling for the same game that the Academy did. It was a good fight because it wasn't a fight to begin with.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2011 18:35:52 GMT -5
See, the genius behind that fight was that the Six were playin' the Academy the whole time. Believing that Reptil could actually beat Rhino is falling for the same game that the Academy did. It was a good fight because it wasn't a fight to begin with. You'll need to elaborate. I simply checked out the fight at my comic book store, went "Nonsense!" then put it back on the shelf. Ignorance is bliss
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Post by NexusOfLight on May 24, 2011 19:03:45 GMT -5
Apparently not that blissful, since you were disgusted by it. Anyway, you missed out. Like I said, the Academy got played hard. Anyway, major spoilers for those who haven't read but plan to. Doc Ock was all upset since the Intelligencia basically slept on him by completely ignorin' him durin' that whole "smartest men in the world" thing on in the Hulk books. He decided to prove that he could out whit Pym at every turn, and he did. He caused some disaster to happen somewhere so Pym and the rest of the adults had to go and stop it, then he had the Six do some big crime some place else and that drew the Academy their. It was in some far off country so the Academy had to use Pym's teleport tech. They got there, fought the Six. The Six weren't even tryin' (that's about where you saw Rhino gettin' tossed around by Reptil as a Triceratops), but they still about killed every last one of 'em. Tigra got switched out with Chameleon an' stabbed 'em in the back, Reptil about got fried to death by Electro, Doc Ock got that machine that he wanted to get, (Rhino was perfectly fine by the way, he was the one who moved the big thing) Ock used Pym's own teleport thing to escape with it, all an' all, it was a complete stomp for the Six. They were talkin' about how bad they felt for humiliating untrained kids at the end of it, Pym felt stupid because he fell for it, Reptil was real broken up because he was supposedly chosen to be the Academy's leader, and he said that they were ready for facing the Six, it was horrible. Anyway, with that big machine thing that they stole, they went on to give Spidey an' the FF trouble in ASM 658.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2011 19:24:45 GMT -5
"(that's about where you saw Rhino gettin' tossed around by Reptil as a Triceratops), " Him getting sucker-punched (or tailed) was not my complaint. Seeing him and the triceratops charging one another, then the result being the below was my complaint: Obviously he was able to recover because two panels later Oc orders him around, but it's still totally downplaying his physical abilities. And I'm just oh-so-sick of Rhino being downplayed.
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Post by NexusOfLight on May 24, 2011 19:28:54 GMT -5
And again, all I can say is it was all part of the plan. And considering how royally messed up Reptil got when everything was said an' done, I see absolutely no reason people shouldn't let that slide. Obviously Rhino did.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2011 20:15:58 GMT -5
.....My point is simply Rhino was overpowered and owned by a triceratops, despite the page before clearly showing he was fully charging it. It's downplaying Rhino's stats, that's all.
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Post by NexusOfLight on May 24, 2011 20:33:24 GMT -5
Understandable. All I'm saying is it wasn't that big a deal. Call it PIS if you want, but compared to everything else that happened...well, it wasn't worth goin' "Nonsense" an' puttin' the comic back on the shelf.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2011 20:34:56 GMT -5
Of course it's not a big deal. I'm just nitpicking because I'm tired of seeing him downplayed and given the 5,000th "disrespect" feat for someone else to use, lol.
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Post by NexusOfLight on May 24, 2011 20:42:43 GMT -5
Ah well. I'm not really one for reading comics to find feats for characters. Give me a good story, good art, an' I'm set. So it's all good wit' me. I'll leave the battle forum topics to you an' the other battle forum regs.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2011 21:06:07 GMT -5
Well, everyone wants a good story and art...But my extended interest in a large selection of characters means I take notice / cry about it when I notice a writer doesn't treat a specific character properly
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Post by NexusOfLight on May 24, 2011 21:15:07 GMT -5
See, I understand what you're sayin', an' I've found a lot of people who read comics have that same thing in mind, but I just can't get into it like that. Me seein' Rhino losing a charge with a Triceratops is nothin'. Not because I don't like Rhino or nothin', because I really do, but to me, his battle stats aren't really what make him a character. That's just how I read comics, and it's always worked for me. I can honestly say, I've never found PIS to be a reason for me to not enjoy a comic.
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Post by DedmanWalkin on May 24, 2011 22:30:07 GMT -5
That wasn't the Rhino getting overpowered by a Triceratops, that was the Rhino faking getting overpowered by a Triceratops. He was faking the entire time according to how I read it in the comic book store. He may have appeared to charging full bore but he was just jogging. If anything this was a great skill/intelligence feat as he was able to fool Reptil long enough for the rest of the Six to come in a pwn the Academy.
I also quite enjoyed the Initiative but I believe it is a bad idea. Unless they need specific training/equipment to control their powers so that they don't kill people, they should just fight crime like every other teen superhero. They should get a mentor but not a specific school. I would find watching the stories of several mentors and their charges all working the same case without knowing it and then teaming up quite entertaining. I would hope that with mutants possibly coming back, that they would get a similar treatment.
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Post by Admin on May 24, 2011 22:45:20 GMT -5
You're speculating and there's 0 evidence to support it. You can point to the things I'll address below, but it's open to interpretation. You think Rhino fakes losing, I strongly disagree. There's simply no need for him to. They would have opened the portal regardless of that one match-up.
Oc says he doesn't care if the group is dead or alive, but he needs them to activate the door for his plan to work. Rhino then remarks about refusing to kill children. That said, that doesn't mean he's going to go easy on them or fake losing. He just won't apply lethal force. It's clear he got hit into the wall by the tri, then recovered to follow-through with the orders. If you want to believe he faked losing, that's fine. But it's not possible to pass as fact unless you get the writer to actually state that.
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Post by Killshot Caine on May 25, 2011 1:12:28 GMT -5
The Academy's fight vs Sinister Six was absolutely disgusting. I liked it honestly.
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Post by DedmanWalkin on May 25, 2011 1:38:03 GMT -5
Again, I read it in a comic shop in a minimal amount of time and that was my interpretation of events. I want to believe that the Rhino is capable of more than just charging and getting pwned by Spidey so maybe there is a bit of bias.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 19, 2011 15:05:02 GMT -5
I like to see the Initiative crew. Frankly, I'd like to have both AA and Initiative. They should cut either New Avengers or Secret Avengers.
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Post by Gender on Jun 22, 2011 16:02:52 GMT -5
Looks like #2 confirms Bucky is dead, doubt thats going to stick as the Hulk was pretty peeved at him in that alternate future that also had the Serpent attack.
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Post by Admin on Jun 22, 2011 16:06:07 GMT -5
I wonder if they'll ever follow-up on the conclusion that Taskmaster and Constrictor were in another country doing merc work.
Or with Bengal. Give him some love, Marvel.
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