|
Post by greenlantern555 on Nov 1, 2010 15:52:53 GMT -5
Hahah! Hey, we've had this discussion. You're not changing my mind just as much as I'm not changing yours.
|
|
Decoy Elite
The Unstoppable Ledgernaut
I've seen things you wouldn't believe
Posts: 4,854
|
Post by Decoy Elite on Nov 1, 2010 15:54:38 GMT -5
But the thing here is that I actually have a bit of point. I mean, can you honestly name one good thing about the plot?
|
|
|
Post by greenlantern555 on Nov 1, 2010 15:55:55 GMT -5
The fact of people going against their religion based on hypocritical thinking and actions. For one.
|
|
Decoy Elite
The Unstoppable Ledgernaut
I've seen things you wouldn't believe
Posts: 4,854
|
Post by Decoy Elite on Nov 1, 2010 16:02:34 GMT -5
The fact of people going against their religion based on hypocritical thinking and actions. For one. You mean the strawhat religion ruled by Evil McKillsAlot?
|
|
|
Post by greenlantern555 on Nov 1, 2010 16:04:52 GMT -5
The fact of people going against their religion based on hypocritical thinking and actions. For one. You mean the strawhat religion ruled by Evil McKillsAlot? Exactly. And that the Al Beid were screwed over by the religion and now the AB hate them and Yevon wonders why. Just like Muslims during the crusades. The whole game seems to be played off the crusades.
|
|
Decoy Elite
The Unstoppable Ledgernaut
I've seen things you wouldn't believe
Posts: 4,854
|
Post by Decoy Elite on Nov 1, 2010 16:21:52 GMT -5
You mean the strawhat religion ruled by Evil McKillsAlot? Exactly. And that the Al Beid were screwed over by the religion and now the AB hate them and Yevon wonders why. Just like Muslims during the crusades. The whole game seems to be played off the crusades. That's not good plot....................at all. It's nothing but strawhat religions (which I hate btw, because they paint all the negatives of religions while ignoring all positives) and "political" commentary via a world where fucking chickens are the main form of transportation. Not to mention being "relevant" doesn't make your plot good.
|
|
|
Post by masterprime64 on Nov 1, 2010 16:28:22 GMT -5
Cloud is emo, Zack is cool
|
|
|
Post by greenlantern555 on Nov 1, 2010 16:57:50 GMT -5
Exactly. And that the Al Beid were screwed over by the religion and now the AB hate them and Yevon wonders why. Just like Muslims during the crusades. The whole game seems to be played off the crusades. That's not good plot....................at all. It's nothing but strawhat religions (which I hate btw, because they paint all the negatives of religions while ignoring all positives) and "political" commentary via a world where flarking chickens are the main form of transportation. Not to mention being "relevant" doesn't make your plot good. It's a reason I like the plot and all you asked for is a reason. Transportation has nothing to do with plot even though I do agree that the chocobos are stupid. The Journey and hardships they go through are interesting and inventive. Even though Seymour never dying is annoying...
|
|
Decoy Elite
The Unstoppable Ledgernaut
I've seen things you wouldn't believe
Posts: 4,854
|
Post by Decoy Elite on Nov 1, 2010 17:10:55 GMT -5
That's not good plot....................at all. It's nothing but strawhat religions (which I hate btw, because they paint all the negatives of religions while ignoring all positives) and "political" commentary via a world where flarking chickens are the main form of transportation. Not to mention being "relevant" doesn't make your plot good. It's a reason I like the plot and all you asked for is a reason. Transportation has nothing to do with plot even though I do agree that the chocobos are stupid. The Journey and hardships they go through are interesting and inventive. Even though Seymour never dying is annoying... Inventive? Inventive? Are you kidding me!? Angst isn't inventive at all! That shit was all in FF7 already, the only difference is better graphics and more annoying characters. >.<
|
|
|
Post by greenlantern555 on Nov 1, 2010 17:37:09 GMT -5
It's a reason I like the plot and all you asked for is a reason. Transportation has nothing to do with plot even though I do agree that the chocobos are stupid. The Journey and hardships they go through are interesting and inventive. Even though Seymour never dying is annoying... Inventive? Inventive? Are you kidding me!? Angst isn't inventive at all! That shit was all in FF7 already, the only difference is better graphics and more annoying characters. >.< Then I will defend myself by saying that I have never played FF7. The visuals in FFX were way ahead of it's time. The only annoying characters were Titus and Rikku.
|
|
Decoy Elite
The Unstoppable Ledgernaut
I've seen things you wouldn't believe
Posts: 4,854
|
Post by Decoy Elite on Nov 1, 2010 17:45:57 GMT -5
Inventive? Inventive? Are you kidding me!? Angst isn't inventive at all! That shit was all in FF7 already, the only difference is better graphics and more annoying characters. >.< Then I will defend myself by saying that I have never played FF7. The visuals in FFX were way ahead of it's time. The only annoying characters were Titus and Rikku. Only Titus and Rikku? Yeah, I disagree. Also, I hate games that use their graphics as an excuse to suck dick. I don't give a shit about how pretty a game is, so I don't really accept that as a valid defense for a game. Oh and what RPGs have you played? Because if you've only played FFX, then I strongly suggest trying something else, because if you actually enjoy that game then you'll honestly be amazed at what some other RPGs have to offer.
|
|
|
Post by greenlantern555 on Nov 1, 2010 17:49:13 GMT -5
Then I will defend myself by saying that I have never played FF7. The visuals in FFX were way ahead of it's time. The only annoying characters were Titus and Rikku. Only Titus and Rikku? Yeah, I disagree. Also, I hate games that use their graphics as an excuse to suck dick. I don't give a shit about how pretty a game is, so I don't really accept that as a valid defense for a game. Oh and what RPGs have you played? Because if you've only played FFX, then I strongly suggest trying something else, because if you actually enjoy that game then you'll honestly be amazed at what some other RPGs have to offer. I love Wakka! He is the reason I say 'bradda' in real life! Graphics are great and FFX didn't "suck dick." You may have thought it was bad but it really wasn't THAT bad. I admit, I haven't played many RPGs, but that doesn't mean I am inclined to love it just because of that. I like the story, most of the characters, the graphics, the game play, I love the sphere grid, the magic, the fiends. I like a lot of it.
|
|
Decoy Elite
The Unstoppable Ledgernaut
I've seen things you wouldn't believe
Posts: 4,854
|
Post by Decoy Elite on Nov 1, 2010 17:51:44 GMT -5
Okay, I want you to do me a favor here. Just humor me. Do you have a Gameboy advanced? Or a Gamecube? Or a SNES(or SNES emulator)?
|
|
|
Post by greenlantern555 on Nov 1, 2010 17:52:59 GMT -5
Okay, I want you to do me a favor here. Just humor me. Do you have a Gameboy advanced? Or a Gamecube? Or a SNES(or SNES emulator)? I have a GBA and Wii.
|
|
Decoy Elite
The Unstoppable Ledgernaut
I've seen things you wouldn't believe
Posts: 4,854
|
Post by Decoy Elite on Nov 1, 2010 17:59:59 GMT -5
Okay, I want you to do me a favor here. Just humor me. Do you have a Gameboy advanced? Or a Gamecube? Or a SNES(or SNES emulator)? I have a GBA and Wii. Right then, go buy Mario and Luigi Super Star Saga. It should be cheap as hell and while it's not serious like FFX, the gameplay is twice as fun, contains everything FFX has except lots of party members and is inventive and enjoyable even if you're not a big fan of RPGs. Oh and if you feel like shelling out the cash you could get the first two Paper Mario games, which are also awesome (the first having better levels and bosses, while the second has better combat) although avoid the third because it sucks giant donkey balls.
|
|
|
Post by greenlantern555 on Nov 1, 2010 18:41:50 GMT -5
Right then, go buy Mario and Luigi Super Star Saga. It should be cheap as hell and while it's not serious like FFX, the gameplay is twice as fun, contains everything FFX has except lots of party members and is inventive and enjoyable even if you're not a big fan of RPGs. Oh and if you feel like shelling out the cash you could get the first two Paper Mario games, which are also awesome (the first having better levels and bosses, while the second has better combat) although avoid the third because it sucks giant donkey balls. I have played both PM's and I love them.
|
|
Decoy Elite
The Unstoppable Ledgernaut
I've seen things you wouldn't believe
Posts: 4,854
|
Post by Decoy Elite on Nov 1, 2010 18:44:15 GMT -5
Right then, go buy Mario and Luigi Super Star Saga. It should be cheap as hell and while it's not serious like FFX, the gameplay is twice as fun, contains everything FFX has except lots of party members and is inventive and enjoyable even if you're not a big fan of RPGs. Oh and if you feel like shelling out the cash you could get the first two Paper Mario games, which are also awesome (the first having better levels and bosses, while the second has better combat) although avoid the third because it sucks giant donkey balls. I have played both PM's and I love them. Well there you go! You should know that FFX's greatest gameplay variation from it's predecessors is one that Paper Mario thought up back in the N64 days. (Although M&S adds even more stuff and is even more awesome in the story department)
|
|
|
Post by greenlantern555 on Nov 1, 2010 18:48:01 GMT -5
Yes, and it's a big reason why I like FFX.
|
|
Decoy Elite
The Unstoppable Ledgernaut
I've seen things you wouldn't believe
Posts: 4,854
|
Post by Decoy Elite on Nov 1, 2010 18:52:16 GMT -5
Ah, but that means for me, there's nothing new about FFX, thus I don't really see the point in playing unless of course the story, characters, and mini games are enjoyable.
And for me, they're not. Surprising I know. What pisses me off about FFX and games like it, is how seriously they take themselves and how they treat the player like a retard who can't string two plot threads together. Ironically the only games I find that don't do that are the "kid" games, which is kind of sad really.
|
|
|
Post by greenlantern555 on Nov 1, 2010 18:53:57 GMT -5
The most stupid thing about FFX is that it's like the voice actor for Titus talked normally but the sped his voice up by at least 75%. It's annoying as balls...
|
|