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Post by Crom-Cruach on Mar 7, 2011 13:34:06 GMT -5
Psychics aren't what I was talking about.
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 7, 2011 13:50:25 GMT -5
Psychics aren't what I was talking about. Well then what were you talking about? |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Mar 7, 2011 13:51:57 GMT -5
Basic logic, growing up, psychiatry etc.
Really there's no good justification for him having the problems he has now with his powers.
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Post by Admin on Mar 7, 2011 13:56:44 GMT -5
Yes, there is. The man, as Wolverine put it "has a nuke in his head" and he's NOT capable of fully controlling it yet. Emma even implied he was going to lose control soon. It's irresponsible for Cyclops to test controlling it, because the one second he loses control it can not only harm, but also potentially kill others. He's had the visor virtually his entire life at this point, no harm in playing it safe and sticking with it. Clearly, it hasn't hindered his relationship with women at all  |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Mar 7, 2011 14:00:39 GMT -5
Clearly, it hasn't hindered his relationship with women at all well Cyclops does have pheromone powers that make everyone blind to his fail. |
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Mar 7, 2011 14:09:58 GMT -5
This is what I have been saying for awhile. Cyclops' visor is a useless piece of plastic and ruby quartz. It serves no other function than being a mnemonic device for controlling his powers instilled in him by Sinister and reinforced by Xavier.
Have you seen Inception? In it the team attempts to plant an idea in someone's head via dream manipulation. The idea had to be broken down into its most simple form in order for it to work. Xavier did the same thing. The idea was that he wanted Scott to be his second in command but it is not easy to convince a teenager who has recently discovered he can shoot freaking laser beams out of his eyes. So what does he do? He goes in and uses the psychological programming that Sinister instilled in Scott and uses it as a base to control Scott. He telepathically suggested that Scott can't control his powers which when taken to its logical conclusion means Scott can't control himself which means Scott can't make decisions for himself which means that Scott needs someone to help him make those decisions which in this case was Charles effing Xavier.
What was Charles Xavier's part during Astonishing X-men?
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 7, 2011 15:01:17 GMT -5
Xavier was not present in Astonishing. The ruby quartz DOES help disperse his optic blasts. That is a fact. If you do not like it, too bad. He can burst through it if he really tries or if there is a flaw in the quartz but under normal conditions, it hinders his powers.
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Post by Admin on Mar 7, 2011 15:03:12 GMT -5
Hrmmm? He was, silly. Remember the whole story with Danger?
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 7, 2011 15:12:48 GMT -5
Hrmmm? He was, silly. Remember the whole story with Danger? Sorry. I meant with Breakworld. The story that had to do with Scott's issues. |
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Post by Morpheus on Mar 7, 2011 15:16:44 GMT -5
The Professor was such a bamf, that he beat Danger while the whole team got stomped by her.
Man, Whedon made everyone look good, except for Wolverine.
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 7, 2011 15:51:49 GMT -5
The Professor was such a bamf, that he beat Danger while the whole team got stomped by her.
Man, Whedon made everyone look good, except for Wolverine. Xavier is a pretty smart guy. |
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Post by Morpheus on Mar 7, 2011 15:54:44 GMT -5
The Professor was such a bamf, that he beat Danger while the whole team got stomped by her.
Man, Whedon made everyone look good, except for Wolverine. Xavier is a pretty smart guy.
Pretty sure Marvel ranks him at genius level, too. |
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 7, 2011 16:02:36 GMT -5
Xavier is a pretty smart guy.
Pretty sure Marvel ranks him at genius level, too.Oh yeah. I knew you were serious. I was just hoping on that wagon with you. |
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Post by Morpheus on Mar 7, 2011 16:03:32 GMT -5
I wasn't being sarcastic, I genuinely loved his appearances in AXM, and his portrayal under Mike Carey in Legacy.
Pretty sure Marvel ranks him at genius level, too. Oh yeah. I knew you were serious. I was just hoping on that wagon with you.  |
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Post by Power NeXus on Mar 7, 2011 16:46:33 GMT -5
Xavier was not present in Astonishing. The ruby quartz DOES help disperse his optic blasts. That is a fact. If you do not like it, too bad. He can burst through it if he really tries or if there is a flaw in the quartz but under normal conditions, it hinders his powers. I wouldn't say it hinders his powers as much as it just focuses them. Using his power sans visor (even in Astonishing when he was in complete control) was mostly a shotgun blast. The visor allows him to get more precise with his aim. |
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 7, 2011 18:19:08 GMT -5
Xavier was not present in Astonishing. The ruby quartz DOES help disperse his optic blasts. That is a fact. If you do not like it, too bad. He can burst through it if he really tries or if there is a flaw in the quartz but under normal conditions, it hinders his powers. I wouldn't say it hinders his powers as much as it just focuses them. Using his power sans visor (even in Astonishing when he was in complete control) was mostly a shotgun blast. The visor allows him to get more precise with his aim. Maybe hinders was the wrong word. It certainly is not affected the same way anything else is. The effects are dramatically reduced when hit by the optic blasts. I think it said somewhere that the optics come from some kind of pocket universe that has similarities to ruby quartz, which is why it is used for his visor. |
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Mar 8, 2011 1:01:03 GMT -5
Isn't Scott's possible future daughter Ruby composed of Ruby Quartz but can also shoot his same blasts out of any part of her body? That makes no sense to me and is one of the reason I believe that Ruby Quartz really does crap. I want to see some character other than someone that Sinister or Xavier could have manipulated say that ruby quartz does anything more than act as a placebo for Scott's powers.
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 8, 2011 1:06:49 GMT -5
Isn't Scott's possible future daughter Ruby composed of Ruby Quartz but can also shoot his same blasts out of any part of her body? That makes no sense to me and is one of the reason I believe that Ruby Quartz really does crap. I want to see some character other than someone that Sinister or Xavier could have manipulated say that ruby quartz does anything more than act as a placebo for Scott's powers. Possible future and her mutation does not matter. She is called Ruby. It never said she was made out of ruby. Read my above post. I explain why Ruby quartz counters the optic blasts. No one else has researched Cyclops so you are not going to get the answer you are looking for. It is what it is until Marvel says otherwise. |
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Post by justin on Mar 11, 2011 0:12:11 GMT -5
Who cares about Ruby? Cyclops is the man being discussed. His eye beams are super hard.
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