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Post by spidey_17 on Oct 21, 2010 21:19:29 GMT -5
Scarlet Spider VS Daken Rules:Both characters are Bloodlsuted. Scarlet Spider has his impact webbing. Fight to the death only. Location:They are fighting on a rooftop at midnight. Who will win and why?  |
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2010 1:06:59 GMT -5
Remember what happened to Parker when Daken was just toying with him? Imagine that, but now he's using his claws and not holding back  |
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Post by Dane on Oct 22, 2010 1:15:57 GMT -5
yeah, I like Ben Reilly heaps but if Daken was serious he'd pretty much do the same to him as he did to Punisher.
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Post by Decoy Elite on Oct 22, 2010 1:21:50 GMT -5
Daken takes a solid majority.
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 22, 2010 4:29:50 GMT -5
Remember what happened to Parker when Daken was just toying with him? Imagine that, but now he's using his claws and not holding back |
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Post by spidey_17 on Oct 22, 2010 6:16:43 GMT -5
Ok guys.
Don't you think that this could go either way?
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Post by Decoy Elite on Oct 22, 2010 12:25:04 GMT -5
Ok guys. Don't you think that this could go either way? =] Not really, I mean Ben has no way to overcome Daken's pheromones. |
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 22, 2010 12:27:27 GMT -5
I honestly think Daken would be a tough fight for Ben in a random encounter even without the pheromones, let alone with them.
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Post by Decoy Elite on Oct 22, 2010 12:42:15 GMT -5
I honestly think Daken would be a tough fight for Ben in a random encounter even without the pheromones, let alone with them. Yeah, but Ben would stand a better chance then. |
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 22, 2010 14:06:42 GMT -5
Remember what happened to Parker when Daken was just toying with him? Imagine that, but now he's using his claws and not holding back This sums it up. Sorry Spidey_15. |
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Post by spidey_17 on Oct 22, 2010 17:27:06 GMT -5
Ok guys. Don't you think that this could go either way? =] Not really, I mean Ben has no way to overcome Daken's pheromones. Spider-sense? @morpheus: Ok, so you are saying that even if they were bloodlsuted and Daken didn't have pheremones, he should still give a tough fight? I was not aware that he was that good. Erik-El: LOL, it's ok. =] |
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Post by Decoy Elite on Oct 22, 2010 17:29:35 GMT -5
Not really, I mean Ben has no way to overcome Daken's pheromones. Spider-sense? Didn't work for Spider-Man, why would it work for Ben? |
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Post by Killshot Caine on Oct 22, 2010 17:31:18 GMT -5
If Daken gets his full abilities he should win this.
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 22, 2010 17:44:02 GMT -5
Not really, I mean Ben has no way to overcome Daken's pheromones. Spider-sense? @morpheus: Ok, so you are saying that even if they were bloodlsuted and Daken didn't have pheremones, he should still give a tough fight? I was not aware that he was that good. Erik-El: LOL, it's ok. =] |
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Post by spidey_17 on Oct 22, 2010 17:44:30 GMT -5
Didn't work for Spider-Man, why would it work for Ben? When spidey completely rely on spider-sense, he was still able to react to Daken. Assuming when someone is bloodlusted, he is fighting at the best of his ability, shouldn't Ben accomplish something similar? =] |
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Post by spidey_17 on Oct 22, 2010 17:46:05 GMT -5
Spider-sense? @morpheus: Ok, so you are saying that even if they were bloodlsuted and Daken didn't have pheremones, he should still give a tough fight? I was not aware that he was that good. Erik-El: LOL, it's ok. =] I said when they are bloodlusted. Pete was never bloodlsuted against Logan in any of their fights as far as i know. =] Wolverine has no pheromones and Spider-Man's physical attributes are barely enabling him to keep up with his skill. Daken is no different. |
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 22, 2010 17:52:00 GMT -5
Didn't work for Spider-Man, why would it work for Ben? When spidey completely rely on spider-sense, he was still able to react to Daken. Assuming when someone is bloodlusted, he is fighting at the best of his ability, shouldn't Ben accomplish something similar? =] |
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Post by spidey_17 on Oct 22, 2010 17:54:56 GMT -5
When spidey completely rely on spider-sense, he was still able to react to Daken. Assuming when someone is bloodlusted, he is fighting at the best of his ability, shouldn't Ben accomplish something similar? =] Of course, but shouldn't Ben rely on his sense from the beginning of the battle? Something that Pete didn't do. =] |
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 22, 2010 17:55:21 GMT -5
He was serious in Spider-Man vs Wolverine. Bloodlusted has to do with hindrances originating from his morals. Spider-Man's morals prevented him from wanting to kill Wolverine, but until that point he was having a hard time and was even mentioning he was truly trying to fight, not fooling around. It's very possible Ben, or Peter would beat Daken without pheromones, but Daken is more than capable of putting up a good fight.
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 22, 2010 17:57:02 GMT -5
Spider-Man needed Daken himself to give him a heads-up about the pheromones, and also needed a significant time-frame in order to adjust, during which Daken was toying with him (he hit him 4-5 times without critically injuring him, due to needing him alive). He won't be doing any toying here. He'll just dismember him. Of course, but shouldn't Ben rely on his sense from the beginning of the battle? Something that Pete didn't do. =]
Why would he do that?
i) Ben has never met Daken, therefore he has no knowledge of his abilities.
ii) Even if he does it from the start it's not instantaneous, which is the most crucial point. It requires time to adapt to the pheromones, time that Daken will not grant since he will be willing to kill. |
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