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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 14:58:37 GMT -5
I don't know a thing about King Hyperion, so no. What I do know is it just further proves that Juggernaut is still rather durable and damn good at withstanding pain.
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Post by ckal on Apr 22, 2011 15:03:42 GMT -5
Here is what you are saying: Jugg's plan the entire time was to get the absolute shit kicked out of him, and after KH was satisfied pounding his face to mush, KH would punch his skull and hurt his hand? Then he would get a few shots when KH was stunned ....then get his life saved by Moonstone a split second before his face got fried off by KH's eye beams? Yeah, great plan. Even though Jugg's stated 'rope a dope' that is just talk. How KH would hurt his hand on Jugg's head enough to be stunned, after he pounded his face in, and punched dents into his helmet, is pure PIS. Accept it.
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 15:06:43 GMT -5
There's nothing to accept because I never even said that, noob. All I said was he had a decent showing and lost in the end. It also showcases his good pain tolerance. None of that is inaccurate, so don't put words in my mouth, foo.
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 15:06:26 GMT -5
I never went into DETAILS about the match, that was all you.
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Post by ckal on Apr 22, 2011 15:14:34 GMT -5
On a pure durability and pain tolerance level it was a decent showing. But what even allowed the fight to go on as long as it did was PIS. If KH didn't hurt his hand on Jugg's skull (PIS), Juggernaut would be dead.
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 15:16:49 GMT -5
"On a pure durability and pain tolerance level it was a decent showing." And that's exactly what I've stated.
"But what even allowed the fight to go on as long as it did was PIS. If KH didn't hurt his hand on Jugg's skull (PIS), Juggernaut would be dead." Obviously hurting his hand on his head, but not against the armor is stupid writing, but at the end of the day the showing was "decent" for Juggernaut, primarly due to the impressive durability/pain like I've already said. That's all I've been saying.
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Post by ckal on Apr 22, 2011 15:21:19 GMT -5
Overall, not a good showing. He got his ass handed to him and with the aid of PIS survived, barely. Durability and pain tolerance was decent since even though his face got turned into pudding and snapped his leg he didn't die or pass out.
Oh yeah, and that left leg that got crumpled at the knee when KH kicked it, which was completely disregarded in the following pages.
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 15:23:14 GMT -5
I said decent, not good. And when it comes to trying to grasp current Juggernaut's levels (which was the entire point of this conversation), it's just another solid pain tolerance/durability display.
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Post by ckal on Apr 22, 2011 15:25:01 GMT -5
I accept your apology.
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 15:25:22 GMT -5
Riiiiight.
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Post by creator on Apr 23, 2011 5:01:17 GMT -5
I think it would be better to discuss the c :Plassic versions of both these characters as at some point they will revert to these power levels. A good debate on how limitless juggernauts strength / durability is vs. The hulk's is would be good. Cyttorak's power is not truely limitless. Sure it is cosmic entity level but it has a limit. Does this exceed the hulk's potential and can the hulk get there faster ? Lots to debate.
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Post by Admin on Apr 24, 2011 17:51:45 GMT -5
YP, would you be cool with making them both classic levels?
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Post by yaujtapool on Sept 10, 2011 6:06:48 GMT -5
YP, would you be cool with making them both classic levels? This thread has been inactive for a while, but sure they are at classic levels now.
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Post by creator on Sept 11, 2011 16:49:11 GMT -5
As they are at classic levels, then I think we can have a more meaningful Once and for All debate. Does anyone want to argue for either side ?
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Post by Lunacyde Prime on Sept 11, 2011 17:46:39 GMT -5
Does it really take this long to realize that Juggernaut just plain out sucks?
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Post by Killshot Caine on Sept 12, 2011 12:00:26 GMT -5
As they are at classic levels, then I think we can have a more meaningful Once and for All debate. Does anyone want to argue for either side ? Hulk is incapable of hurting Juggernaut.There isn't really much argument you can give for him.
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Post by creator on Sept 12, 2011 15:50:53 GMT -5
Hulk is incapable of hurting Juggernaut.There isn't really much argument you can give for him. There is an argument to be made for 2 reasons, neither of which am i pushing as correct. I mention them only as i think they are worthy of discussion without the rants of fan boys. Firstly that as the Hulk gets more angry his durability has been shown to increase as well. Is it possible that the Hulks durability can get to a level quick enough that he can easily take the Juggernauts blows and they do no real damage anymore ? Secondly that do we really believe the juggernauts durability to be unlimited. Juggernauts power (strength, endurance, durability) is supplied by Cyttorak. However Cyttorak does not have unlimited power. Can the Hulks strength, which is supposedly unlimited, overcome the Juggernauts durability ?
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Sept 12, 2011 16:00:31 GMT -5
I always thought the Hulk's strength was gauged by his anger. And you can't keep getting angrier and angrier, there has to be a limit.
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Post by Lance on Sept 12, 2011 16:12:00 GMT -5
Hulk is incapable of hurting Juggernaut.There isn't really much argument you can give for him. There is an argument to be made for 2 reasons, neither of which am i pushing as correct. I mention them only as i think they are worthy of discussion without the rants of fan boys. Firstly that as the Hulk gets more angry his durability has been shown to increase as well. Is it possible that the Hulks durability can get to a level quick enough that he can easily take the Juggernauts blows and they do no real damage anymore ? Secondly that do we really believe the juggernauts durability to be unlimited. Juggernauts power (strength, endurance, durability) is supplied by Cyttorak. However Cyttorak does not have unlimited power. Can the Hulks strength, which is supposedly unlimited, overcome the Juggernauts durability ? Not particularly, from what we've seen. Even as the Hulk progresses in strength, over the years Juggernaut has proven he can whether Banner's onslaughts entirely and put a stop to them if he so chooses.
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Post by Morpheus on Sept 12, 2011 16:18:28 GMT -5
Unless it's War Hulk, lol.
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