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Post by jakefury on Apr 22, 2011 19:18:27 GMT -5
I liked the choice of Mister Hyde so I'll include him. He's powerful but can definitely be controlled.
1. Mister Hyde (Nanites can trigger him to return to human form)
2. Speed Demon (Nanites preventing him from attaining over Mach 2)
3. Anaconda (old Serpent Society villain)
4. Dark Beast (can provide scientific expertise if needed)
5. Foreigner (leader and also trained his own organization of assassins)
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 19:19:28 GMT -5
Black Tarantula
Gambit
Temugin
Elektra
Leader: Daredevil
Why do you believe they would all sign up? After all, the T-Bolts program is intended to give people who should be doing time another option. |
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 19:19:40 GMT -5
Same question to you, Fury!
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 22, 2011 19:19:50 GMT -5
Dark Beast will end up setting the Raft on fire in two days flat.
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Post by jakefury on Apr 22, 2011 19:24:21 GMT -5
Dark Beast will end up setting the Raft on fire in two days flat. LMAO |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 22, 2011 19:44:31 GMT -5
Black Tarantula
Gambit
Temugin
Elektra
Leader: Daredevil
Why do you believe they would all sign up? After all, the T-Bolts program is intended to give people who should be doing time another option.
Gambit is tricky since it's more of a "I want him on the team" choice. He has broken laws multiple times, but it's kind of hard to hold it against him when people like Magneto roam free and are members of the X-Men. A feasible reason would be that, due to his current condition, he generally wishes to stay away from his close friends, afraid of the harm the monster Apocy-lips implanted in his mind could bring to them. Luke could offer further exploration/examination of his Death persona, as well as an environment where he could be more unrestrained without fear of hurting people he cares for - or that don't deserve it. As for powerset, I have three words for you: da full deck.
Temugin is similar to Tarantula in many ways. He faced and nearly killed Iron Man out of honour, when he thought his father dead, and he recently allied himself with the Agents of Atlas. He has a shady past, and he definitely isn't a full fledged hero or someone who would be recruited for the Avengers, but he is a nigh unparalleled martial artist with strong convictions who could prove a valuable asset in every respect, with his willingness to prove to everyone - himself included - how much he truly is worth, despite the sinister legacy of his father.
Elektra is an assassin, who also happened to lead a ninja cult (that actually wasn't her, but you know how these things are). If someone is willing to dig up her activities, there are plenty of things she could be accused of. She is yet another great martial artist with speciality in armed and unarmed combat and her ninja training makes her useful both in reconnaissance missions and straightforward battles. How to lure her? Emotional interest in the leader (primarily) and a good salary seem sufficient.
Daredevil: More than ever before, DD is at crossroads. He wanted to do good, but evil finally caught up with him and corrupted his very soul. He killed his nemesis under his own volition, spiralled into darkness, fought and nearly murdered his best friends and let down the very people he swore to protect. In spite of their differences through the years, Luke has always thought highly of Matt, and while it would be impossible for everyone to embrace him so soon after Shadowland, offering him an important spot in a secondary T-bolts team under the supervision of Cage himself would be the ideal opportunity for him to prove his mettle once again and silence the nay sayers. While nowhere near a team player, his will to prove himself again alongside two old comrades (three, if we count Cage), man of honour like Temugin and an old acquaintance that has to face his inner demons (sounds familiar?) make this an offer even he couldn't refuse. |
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 19:54:43 GMT -5
*does a slow clap*
I can see that working, but I completely agree regarding Gambit that he's more of a "TBH I really just want him on the team, but it isn't likely" kind of deal, lol.
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 19:54:16 GMT -5
*short response due to being busy @ work*
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 19:55:11 GMT -5
How do you see the chemistry between the team?
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 22, 2011 20:04:21 GMT -5
*does a slow clap* I can see that working, but I completely agree regarding Gambit that he's more of a "TBH I really just want him on the team, but it isn't likely" kind of deal, lol.
I thought the similarities between him and Daredevil in recent times have been great, so they could help each other out, in a way. It's also rare to see a mutant in a non-mutant team. There are probably more, but I can only think of Beast for now. That, and come on. He's Gambit. Do you want him playing X-23's sidekick or being a member in a group like this?  I could see some initial distrust between Tarantula and DD due to recent events, and a general coldness to Temugin, but they would likely end up working very well together, if I may say so myself. And Gambit/DD would have a good understanding from the start. |
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 20:07:18 GMT -5
"That, and come on. He's Gambit. Do you want him playing X-23's sidekick or being a member in a group like this? "
Just give it time. In a few months he'll steal the spot light, changin the title to "GAMBIT! ....featuring X-23"
"I could see some initial distrust between Tarantula and DD due to recent events, and a general coldness to Temugin, but they would likely end up working very well together, if I may say so myself. And Gambit/DD would have a good understanding from the start."
Agreed regarding Gambit/DD. As a team unit, do you think they'd have issue following orders from Daredevil? How do you think Daredevil would serve as a leader? And who do you think would take what role when it comes to specialties?
Damn right I'm not going to let this thread fade away...lol
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 22, 2011 20:26:40 GMT -5
I'm beat now, but I promise I'll answer as many questions as you like tomorrow, K4tz.
Peace.
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 20:27:06 GMT -5
Sounds good.
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Post by Power NeXus on Apr 22, 2011 20:44:29 GMT -5
Off the top of my head...
Hawkeye - He has already proven that he is capable of leading a team of Thunderbolts. Once having been a villian himself, he knows how to handle people like that. Sure he's already got membership in the Avengers, but do they really need him there? The Avengers can have anybody they want. But when you've got a team of random villians who have never worked with each other before, you need to have a leader who knows what the f**k he's doing.
Gibbon - Being a second or third stringer at best, this guy would probably jump at the changce to be on a big leagues team like the Thunderbolts. Gibbon has proven himself capable of putting up a good fight against Spider-Man, though consistantly losing to him. But what he lacks in raw power, he will make up for in enthusiasm and efforts to prove himself. When you're putting together a team of guys who are just there to get out of jail time, it's probably a good idea to have at least one guy on the team who actually wants to be there.
Joystick - Joystick is the type of gal who loves to live life in the fast lane. She always seems to be happiest when she's in a dangerous situation fighting for her life. Her athleticism makes her a great melee fighter (even out-speeding Speed Demon once during a temporary power boost) and her gauntlets make her valuable both for her long-range attacks and computer hacking capabilities. Due to her superior experience and the similar nature of their powers, she might even be able to give Gibbon some tips on how to fight better.
Black Tom Cassidy - As I understand it, M-Day caused Black Tom to lose his secondary mutation, but retain his original powers. He is an excellant planner and strategist, making him a good advisor to Hawkeye. He also has quite a bit of remorse from killing Sammy, a good friend of Juggernaut's, and possibly all of his 'old life'. I believe that could be reasonable incentive for him to want to do something good for a change.
Rhino - Extremely powerful, but also fairly easy to manipulate due to not being the brightest bulb in the pack. As was said earlier in the thread, he is in a dark time in his life and might be somewhat unstable. But, really, is any villian you find going to be 100% trustworthy? It's possible that giving him a chance to start venting some of his anger and confusion might be good for him. Besides, he's not entirely difficult to put down if you have the right equipment to do it, say... a sleeping gas arrow or something. Oh, and looky who I've got as my team leader here...
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Post by Admin on Apr 22, 2011 22:01:33 GMT -5
O la la. I'll respond to this when I can.
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 23, 2011 5:40:31 GMT -5
Liu said she wants to address his problem with his Death powers, but I'm not sure if I'd want that.
Tarantula was seen following DD's orders nearly to the letter even when they were OoC due to his respect/trust for him, and DD had to stray far off course for him to question him, so I'd say, yes. Similarly, Gambit has shown he likes being a lone wolf but is quite co-operative with teammates he respects - sometimes with teammates he doesn't even respect. Elektra knows DD intimately and they've had plenty of team-ups before, so I don't see real issues there. And Temugin, despite being a descendant of the Mandarin, has generally been portrayed as a humble, and self-aware person.
Daredevil has plenty of qualities of a good leader. He's astute, alert, has a commanding presence to inspire loyalty/fear but is also very compassionate and he'd be willing to listen to any issues his crew would have, or a piece of advise concerning a mission. He has also fought with, and against some truly extraordinary characters, therefore there is no challening his authority: the man has been to hell and back (literally), and he would not ask a team member to do something he wouldn't do himself.
Elektra is a no-brainer for stealth, which is also a part Gambit, and DD himself could perform very well.
Gambit's kinetic energy discharges kind of make him the "bomber" of this team, when DD needs things to be done loudly, he'd be the man for the job.
Black Tarantula would be the tank, he can survive nearly everything you throw at him due to his HF, and his strength along with long range attacks also make him ideal for a hands on approach.
Temugin in combination with Tarantula in the field would be a nigh unstoppable force for the kind of opponents the T-bolts casually face, but where Tarantula brings brute force, Temugin is a master of elegance and precision. They compliment each other's strengths nicely.
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Post by Matezoide on Apr 23, 2011 8:24:23 GMT -5
i would read a comic with this team
anyway...
*prepares Thunderbolts roster*
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Post by Admin on Apr 24, 2011 15:42:38 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd be fine looking the otherway if they just decided to throw out that aspect all together, haha. Sounds like they'd work rather well. I also see the potential for interesting drama between him and Cage over certain missions and such. Aye. It would be nice to see Gambit treated as a powerhouse again. I still don't get why he randomly has an optic blast, but whatever. lol Nice. Sounds like this would be one hell of a squad and a damn good title. That reminds me, we can use a Temugin debate  |
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Post by Admin on Apr 24, 2011 15:42:59 GMT -5
NeXus, Hawkeye is too busy to lead them |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 24, 2011 15:51:11 GMT -5
I'd want him to master them, honestly. He'd be an amazing powerhouse.Definitely. But hey, if things go south DD could always nerve strike Luke.  He can also heal people. And walk on water. And resurrect himself.
Extra points if you know which one is true.
Eh, I came to realise the guy is too powerful for his own good. Maybe once I'm done with Midnighter, we could put them against each and see what happens.
PS - That's Nexus, not Strafe.
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