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Post by Erik-El on May 24, 2011 12:36:49 GMT -5
 Real life world comparison: 1- Mentally or physically handicapped. Likely to kill himself and/or his allies before his opponent. 2 - What the average person has. Ranging from no training of any kind to basic self defense classes that girls go to where they hit the guy in a foam body stocking. 3 - What the average person has traditional access to like a martial arts hobbyist or someone who does boxing on the weekends, or took basic in some military or something like that. 4 - Someone who has advanced fighting education or anything beyond basic military training. Such as a committed martial artist, trained professional fighter, special combat force, etc etc etc. 5 - A cut above 4. Lifelong martial arts practitioner. The guy that wears the karate gi to the dinner table. Recognized martial arts instructors/masters. 6 - Where things start to get a little crazy. The real world equivalent would know nothing other than martial arts. Could not do math without using martial arts to do it I.E. "I don't know what 2 - 2 is but I know that if I kick off 2 heads, I am left with 0 heads". 7 - Logically impossible in the real world. Such as mastery of every martial arts in a compressed time frame like 10 years or whatevs. Tier 1Hydra Bob Wylde Tier 2Adrian Toomes Alex Merkel Apocalypse Armless Tiger Man Bloodscream Carnage Crossfire Deadzone Eddie Brock Human Torch Killer Croc Reed Richards Rhino Riddler Scorpion Sentry Shocker Static Strong Guy Tier 3LowAtomic Knight Banshee Black Tom Blob Caliban Darth Nihilus Dr. Aesop Firebrand Flash - Wally West Geo-Force Harvey Dent Komodo Magneto Mr. Sinister Nightfighter Norman Osborn Quicksilver Rage Sauron Solomon Grundy Stormtrooper Tigra Tony Stark Triathlon Wolfsbane MidAlfred Darth Nihilus Deadshot Eddie Brock Iceman Looker Rorschach Silver Surfer Stargirl Tombstone Wildcat 3 (Tom) HighBlack Lightning Callisto Captain Atom Dark Hawk Dark Nebula Forge Hellcat Joker Jubilee Martian Manhunter Nova Owlman Spider-Man Susan Storm Tier 4LowAsgardians Aurra Sing Beast Bengal Bishop Black Knight Captain Marvel Casey Jones Champion of the Universe Creeper Cyber-Cat Cyborg Diana Prince - Wonder Woman Doc Samson Donatello Gorilla Man Helmut Zemo Hercules Hit-Girl Holly Robinson Jessica Drew Morbius Mordin Morlun Namor Oracle Power Girl Rick Jones Roughouse Scandal Savage Starkiller Stephen Strange Storm Superman Vandal Savage Warpath Warmachine Web Zaran MedAshoka Tano Black Condor (John) Black Spectre Cardiac Damian Wayne Harley Quinn Hawkeye Hawkgirl Hawkman Hellboy Jeannette Luke Cage Magog Moondragon Mr. Majestic Patriot Sinestro WI? Spider-Man HighBalder Ben Skywalker Birdie Cyclops Falcon Fantomex Hush Jackaroo Kingpin Lady Vic Mark Richards Michelangelo Ms. Marvel Naga Sadow Nick Fury Omega Red Paladin Raphael Razorfist - current Renee Montoya Sabretooth She-Cat She-Hulk Stephen Strange Tahiri Veila Talia Al' Ghul Thing Thor Ultimate Gambit Tier 5LowAdam-X Agent Zero Balrog Batwoman Black Tarantula Blade Catman Conan Cylla Darth Traya Durge Finesse Frank Castle Gambit Gideon Green Arrow - Ollie Grifter Hellhound Hercules Jango Fett Judomaster Kitty Pryde Lady Deathstrike Lei Kung The Thunderer Mandarin Qui-Gon Jinn Ra's Al Ghul Raoul Bushman Roy Sarah Pezini Scarlett Shield Shuri Silver Sable Stephanie Brown Stryfe Tim Drake US Agent Zangief MedAdon Alyosha Kravinoff - Al Kraven Boba Fett Cable Catwoman Domino Edmond Honda Jaden Korr Jason Todd Ki'Adi Mundi Kit Fisto Leonardo Mocingbird Moon Knight Natasha Romanova - Black Widow Obi-Wan Kenobi Plo Koon Shaak Ti Shatterstar Splinter Tulak Hord Ultimate T'Challa US Agent Wildcat HighCammy White Cheshire Darth Maul General Grievous Kyp Durron Lumiya Mara Jade Patience - Magdalena Sergei Kravinoff - Kraven The Hunter Shrike Terry McGinnis Vega Victor Sage Tier 6LowArcher Braun Batroc Bullseye Charlie Nash Chun-Li Cyber Cyclone Darth Tyranus Darth Vader David Allyne Deadpool Echo Elektra Fat Cobra Jaina Solo King Snake Kyle Katarn Midnighter Mystique Ord Orson Randall Psylocke Puck Ravager Splice Tigress Med Bucky Barnes - Captain America Crossbones Darth Zannah Dick Grayson Gamora Lt. Smith Mace Windu Mantis Shang-Chi Silver Samurai Ulic Qel-Droma Ultimate Steve Rogers Victor Sagat William Guile - Colonel X-23 Yoda HighBane Black Canary Cat Conner Hawke Daredevil Darth Caedus - Jacen Solo Davos - Steel Phoenix Deathstroke Drakon Gorgon Ian Nottingham John Aman - Prince of Orphans Katana Ken Masters Mandarin M. Bison Ryu Steve Rogers Stormshadow T'Challa Ultimate Nuke White Canary Tier 7LowAkuma Backlash Bronze Tiger Daken Darth Bane Darth Sidious David Cain Exar Kun Gouken Jin Nemesis Ogun Snake Eyes Ultimate Red Skull Zealot MedBruce Wayne Luke Skywalker O-Sensei Wolverine HighCassandra Cain Daniel Rand - Iron Fist Lady Shiva Mister X Richard Dragon Sensei Taskmaster Temugin |
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Post by Strafe Prower on May 24, 2011 12:43:43 GMT -5
What about Avatar characters? Aang Zuko Sokka Tai Lee Mai Dai Lee agents Jet Master Piandao ect... I't going to be hard to be able to translate them, but I'll be glad to help. I'll get the ball rolling with Zuko Zuko should be a mid 5 |
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Post by Power NeXus on May 24, 2011 12:45:17 GMT -5
What about Avatar characters? Aang Zuko Sokka Tai Lee Mai Dai Lee agents Jet Master Piandao ect... I't going to be hard to be able to translate them, but I'll be glad to help. I'll get the ball rolling with Zuko Zuko should be a mid 5 I'd say that's right. |
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Post by Power NeXus on May 24, 2011 12:47:54 GMT -5
I noticed there is no rating for Nightcrawler yet.
Medium 4, perhaps?
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Post by Strafe Prower on May 24, 2011 12:49:51 GMT -5
I noticed there is no rating for Nightcrawler yet. Medium 4, perhaps? I can agree with that, though I think Clint is a bit better than him. |
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Post by Strafe Prower on May 24, 2011 12:50:46 GMT -5
I't going to be hard to be able to translate them, but I'll be glad to help. I'll get the ball rolling with Zuko Zuko should be a mid 5 I'd say that's right. I'd like to have Luna's opinion on it as well. When I see him, i will direct him here  |
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Post by Power NeXus on May 24, 2011 12:54:47 GMT -5
I noticed there is no rating for Nightcrawler yet. Medium 4, perhaps? I can agree with that, though I think Clint is a bit better than him. Personally, I thought Clint should be higher than a medium 4, but I didn't want to look through the last hundred pages to find where his rating was debated. |
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Post by Strafe Prower on May 24, 2011 13:04:38 GMT -5
I can agree with that, though I think Clint is a bit better than him. Personally, I thought Clint should be higher than a medium 4, but I didn't want to look through the last hundred pages to find where his rating was debated. I was the one that put him there for starters until I got a better idea of the people that were on each sub-level. I agree that he should be a high 4. |
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Post by Morpheus on May 24, 2011 13:23:18 GMT -5
Vance, your assistance is required concerning the skill level of Misty Knight and Colleen Wing.
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Post by Vance Astro on May 24, 2011 13:38:49 GMT -5
Vance, your assistance is required concerning the skill level of Misty Knight and Colleen Wing. I think they are both Mid 5's. |
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Post by Morpheus on May 24, 2011 13:41:25 GMT -5
I've been impressed by Colleen but not so much from Misty. All she does is punch people with her bionic arm so far, lol. But I've only read the characters extensively in Iron Fist v1, and I'm currently reading Power Man and Iron Fist.
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Post by Vance Astro on May 24, 2011 13:45:49 GMT -5
I've been impressed by Colleen but not so much from Misty. All she does is punch people with her bionic arm so far, lol. But I've only read the characters extensively in Iron Fist v1, and I'm currently reading Power Man and Iron Fist. To be honest her best feat was against Riccadonna. |
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Post by Morpheus on May 24, 2011 13:55:38 GMT -5
I've been impressed by Colleen but not so much from Misty. All she does is punch people with her bionic arm so far, lol. But I've only read the characters extensively in Iron Fist v1, and I'm currently reading Power Man and Iron Fist. To be honest her best feat was against Riccadonna. |
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Post by Vance Astro on May 24, 2011 14:01:48 GMT -5
To be honest her best feat was against Riccadonna. Ricadonna is basically like Colleen accept she's a hybrid skrull under that white female costume. |
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Post by Morpheus on May 24, 2011 14:02:18 GMT -5
Ricadonna is basically like Colleen accept she's a hybrid skrull under that white female costume. |
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Post by Vance Astro on May 24, 2011 14:04:35 GMT -5
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Post by Morpheus on May 24, 2011 14:08:50 GMT -5
Thanks man. She even has a handbook entry, eh? Strange, she has very few appearances.
I think we have likely sold Lei Kung, the Thunderer rather short. His feats are few but on top of being Iron Fist's sole tutor for a decade he has shown a variety of skills and was Kun-Lun's finest warrior in various flashbacks, defending it nearly on his own against threats like Ninja, and the Iron Fist Killer when everyone else failed. |
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Post by Vance Astro on May 24, 2011 14:13:53 GMT -5
Thanks man. She even has a handbook entry, eh? Strange, she has very few appearances.
I think we have likely sold Lei Kung, the Thunderer rather short. His feats are few but on top of being Iron Fist's sole tutor for a decade he has shown a variety of skills and was Kun-Lun's finest warrior in various flashbacks, defending it nearly on his own against threats like Ninja, and the Iron Fist Killer when everyone else failed.Yea she has a Handbook Entry.I can't find the Thunderer on the list.Where is he placed? |
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Post by Morpheus on May 24, 2011 14:15:01 GMT -5
@ Vance - We have him 5-low, I believe.
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Post by Vance Astro on May 24, 2011 14:20:12 GMT -5
@ Vance - We have him 5-low, I believe. That's not right at all.Who's idea was that? |
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