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Post by Erik-El on May 12, 2011 17:57:38 GMT -5
This thread will be for characters you think should have a retcon. If possible, list what you think would be a good retcon for a character and how could it be implemented. Make sure you at least give a brief explanation on why you want the retcon.
I will start Frank Castle. He is still a Vietnam War vet. Even if he was only in the final year of the war when he was 18, he would still be 54 today. I am pretty sure that he was given dates that put him there for a few years though and in the TPB I read where he was in the war, he looked middle aged already.
He should maybe be a Persian Gulf vet or something.
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Post by Admin on May 12, 2011 18:07:04 GMT -5
Falcon. It's now revealed that is name isn't Sam Wilson, but instead Sam Jackson. If that doesn't boost his popularity, nothing will.
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Post by jakefury on May 12, 2011 18:11:12 GMT -5
Bucky Barnes. He never existed.
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Post by Erik-El on May 12, 2011 18:13:49 GMT -5
Eh. I was hoping to get serious ones but whatever.
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Post by jakefury on May 12, 2011 18:19:02 GMT -5
Sorry dude. Nick Fury was originally the leading candidate for the Super Soldier experiment during WW2. It was partially successful and only extended his lifespan but not his physical stats.
I'd much rather it be something like this than a needless idea like the Infinity Formula (which has never really been touched on again). It'd simplify matters IMO. It could also lead to a potential Cap/Nick Fury story line down the road. Something that's never been done before.
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Post by Erik-El on May 12, 2011 18:23:14 GMT -5
Cool.
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Post by Erik-El on May 12, 2011 18:24:04 GMT -5
I edited the OP to ask for a reason why you want the retcon.
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Post by jakefury on May 12, 2011 18:29:24 GMT -5
Edited sir!
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Post by Erik-El on May 12, 2011 18:33:12 GMT -5
Sorry dude. Nick Fury was originally the leading candidate for the Super Soldier experiment during WW2. It was partially successful and only extended his lifespan but not his physical stats. I'd much rather it be something like this than a needless idea like the Infinity Formula (which has never really been touched on again). It'd simplify matters IMO. It could also lead to a potential Cap/Nick Fury story line down the road. Something that's never been done before. That is pretty good actually. It could also use the John Steele story that just happened in Secret Avengers since he was the being that Luke Cage powers and Steve Rogers SSS came from. But there have been several prototypes for the SSS. I would like it to be loosely tied to that rather than the direct fore bearer for the formula.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 15:52:42 GMT -5
Simple retcons would not solve the problems I have with the series that would need them.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on May 13, 2011 16:15:24 GMT -5
It's not that really needs a retcon really, but if I could retcon something about Darkseid, I'd get rid of the whole Uxas crap. His name is, was and should be DARKSEID! That entire backstory IMO was quite demeaning to the character.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 16:17:19 GMT -5
agreed. Thought Uxas itself is a cool name.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on May 13, 2011 16:22:51 GMT -5
True, it is.
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Post by Power NeXus on May 13, 2011 21:24:06 GMT -5
Falcon. It's now revealed that is name isn't Sam Wilson, but instead Sam Jackson. If that doesn't boost his popularity, nothing will. No. Nick Fury is Sam Jackson, silly
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 21:26:15 GMT -5
No. Nick Fury is Sam Jackson, silly Samuel Fucking Jackson is too awesome for Fury to be him as is Falcon. Samuel Fucking Jackson just plays him in movies cause he plays in everything.
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Post by Khaos King on May 25, 2011 20:11:29 GMT -5
fix all the foolishness that started with fat Joe Quesada.
the house of M never happen. Sentry never happen Skrull invasion never happen Spiderman still married Bucky is dead Wolverine's retarded Lupine storyline never happen.... Civil War *good story but a price has to be paid* Dark Avengers never happen
we see Cap, Ironman walk into a mental asylum where Wanda is being kept her probability powers showing her alternate possible futures and realities all inside her mind so everything written up to today only took place in her mind.
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Post by chyrondave on May 27, 2011 17:14:26 GMT -5
Civil War's problem is that it started with a good premise, then broke down into petty hero vs hero fighting. The lynch pin of that storyline should have been Peter struggling with the idea of revealing his identity to the world, rather than have it be one of the intro points.
I agree that Quesada should be retconned. I really wish that JMS could have had a chance to finish The Twelve.
Somehow I get the feeling that Sentry was an attempt to bring Marvelman into continuity.
I would have retconned the Skrull Invasion to reveal that Iron Man and Captain America were really Skrulls, which would have made Civil War make so much more sense.
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Post by Khaos King on May 27, 2011 19:05:01 GMT -5
i would retcon the hulk stories away.. no superhero kids like skaar or daken, i retcon them away
i just want marvel to restart itself sometime in 98 and start fresh.
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Post by DedmanWalkin on May 27, 2011 20:48:59 GMT -5
While I agree about some of your points Castle, there are some that would have negative implications for characters that I like.
House of M should stay as is, it was a good story arc that had long-lasting effects on the Marvel Universe and allowed many other good stories to be told.
Civil War should have been ended by the Skrull Invasion which should have been ended by the return of the Green Scar. Osborn can still get the head shot on Veranke and bring about Dark Reign but he doesn't get the Sentry as his errand boy as the Sentry is just too ridiculous to exist.
I really like Skaar and Daken, they should definitely stay. I would actually have liked Bruce Banner to remain depowered for quite awhile longer only coming back into power during something really important.
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Post by Khaos King on May 27, 2011 20:56:22 GMT -5
the hulk foolishness i want gone is Rulk, She Rulk, A-bom and the whole MU heroes go hulk * facepalm*
WWH i hated Hulk should never have been capable of the shizz he pulled
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