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Post by Erik-El on Jan 12, 2011 13:49:25 GMT -5
I have friends that start the day lighting one or two up. They smoke weed on their breaks at work the dumbasses. Making it legal would just make people less afraid about hiding it which in turn means more people like my brilliant friends popping up. Seeing as they're already doing it now, I really don't see legalizing it will make everyone else go "oh shit! We better start doing that too!". I mean I understand, yes some people will be dumbasses about it, but they're going to be dumbasses about it legal or not. My point is that if people are doing it now when it is illegal, even more people will do it when it is legal. It is human nature to intentionally forget about moderation. |
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 12, 2011 14:01:30 GMT -5
Seeing as they're already doing it now, I really don't see legalizing it will make everyone else go "oh shit! We better start doing that too!". I mean I understand, yes some people will be dumbasses about it, but they're going to be dumbasses about it legal or not. My point is that if people are doing it now when it is illegal, even more people will do it when it is legal. It is human nature to intentionally forget about moderation. I don't see that happening actually, and if it does then employers will just crack down on it rather quickly. |
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Post by Erik-El on Jan 12, 2011 14:06:03 GMT -5
My point is that if people are doing it now when it is illegal, even more people will do it when it is legal. It is human nature to intentionally forget about moderation. I don't see that happening actually, and if it does then employers will just crack down on it rather quickly. Have you met pot-heads? That is their life. There are people that smoke weed and then there are pot heads. Huge difference. Legalizing weed will create more pot-heads. |
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 12, 2011 14:08:58 GMT -5
I don't see that happening actually, and if it does then employers will just crack down on it rather quickly. Have you met pot-heads? That is their life. There are people that smoke weed and then there are pot heads. Huge difference. Legalizing weed will create more pot-heads. How so? Just because something is legal doesn't mean everyone will try it, cigarettes prove that. |
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Post by Erik-El on Jan 12, 2011 14:12:03 GMT -5
Have you met pot-heads? That is their life. There are people that smoke weed and then there are pot heads. Huge difference. Legalizing weed will create more pot-heads. How so? Just because something is legal doesn't mean everyone will try it, cigarettes prove that. Do you know how many smokers their are in the U.S. alone? |
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Post by Admin on Jan 12, 2011 14:14:22 GMT -5
How so? Just because something is legal doesn't mean everyone will try it, cigarettes prove that. Do you know how many smokers their are in the U.S. alone? Too many. CURSE YOU, SMOKERS! New York City's dirty air and exposure to more smoke is likely the cause of me recently developing asthma  |
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Post by Decoy Elite on Jan 12, 2011 14:19:11 GMT -5
How so? Just because something is legal doesn't mean everyone will try it, cigarettes prove that. Do you know how many smokers their are in the U.S. alone? Do you know if that number is going up? Because I'm pretty sure it's going down. So  But seriously, pot isn't nearly as addictive(if fact I've heard it's non-addictive) The only reason it's produced so much is because there's such a large market and you aren't taxed for making it. Legal = taxed, so suddenly there's less producers, and there's less criminals profiting from it's distribution. |
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Post by Erik-El on Jan 12, 2011 14:27:24 GMT -5
Do you know how many smokers their are in the U.S. alone? Do you know if that number is going up? Because I'm pretty sure it's going down. So But seriously, pot isn't nearly as addictive(if fact I've heard it's non-addictive) The only reason it's produced so much is because there's such a large market and you aren't taxed for making it. Legal = taxed, so suddenly there's less producers, and there's less criminals profiting from it's distribution. Weed is a mind altering substance and it is addictive with prolonged use. Marijuana does not have physical detox stages but their is psychological withdrawals. |
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Post by Power NeXus on Jan 12, 2011 16:49:06 GMT -5
People wouldn't show up to work high for the same reason that they don't show up to work shit faced drunk. They'd get fired. Hmm. So maybe that would make more jobs open up and improve the economy...  |
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Post by Erik-El on May 13, 2011 14:55:53 GMT -5
It is a drug. It is detrimental to our bodies and really has no reason to be legal outside of medical practice.
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Post by Purrpura Bastette on May 13, 2011 16:14:39 GMT -5
I live in so-cal. Everyone over the age of twelve here smokes weed, everyone over the age of eighteen has their med card. Except for me though...I don't have one. It's practically already legal here.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 13, 2011 16:17:49 GMT -5
lol.
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Post by Power NeXus on May 13, 2011 21:22:54 GMT -5
I barely even remember posting here, and yet I made almost the exact same post on the recently made (and locked) pot thread.
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Post by Sherlock Laforet on May 14, 2011 1:13:29 GMT -5
I dont see any reason it shouldnt be legal.Like NeXus said alcohol is legal and much more harmful than pot.
And BTW for anyone whos using the its a drug and should be illegal card (I didnt read the whole thing so i dont know if anyone is) Caffeine is also a drug and no one has a problem with it being legal
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Post by greenlantern555 on May 14, 2011 2:19:11 GMT -5
Being a "pothead" myself (yes, I'm being pretty open) I may have some good things to bring up. Regardless if pot becomes legalized or not, people are going to do it. The prohibition is a great example of that. It's human nature to do things that people tell you not to. The highest percentage of alcohol abuse is in the age rage of kids who are below the age of 21. Why? Because they are not allowed to do it. Making it legal, IMO, may decrease that number solely on the fact that it is not "cool." Will it be a huge number? Of course not. How I came up with that conclusion is that most of my "pothead" friends have stated that they wouldn't have tried it if it wasn't illegal. It gave them a rush. Some of the smartest people to graduate from my high school smoked pot all the time. Literally, they came to class maybe 100 times a year and passed with all As. The affects that pot has on people is nothing compared to the affects than other drugs as well. Does it do any damage? Of course it does, but so is breathing our shitty air. Pot is easy to quit if one has the means and the drive. Alcohol and cigarettes? Not so much. There are no side-effects from even smoking for a year. I have been for two and I am doing very well for myself and I am calmer and more reasonable. You can still function and get things done. When serious things happen and you need to be sober, it really isn't hard if you have the willpower( Hehe...Green Lantern...) The only reason that Cigarettes are being sold in the Canadian "black market" is because of the prices they place on the items themselves. If they would make them cheaper, then there would be no need for the "illegal acts." I have more to say, but I have said more than enough for debate.
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Post by Erik-El on May 14, 2011 10:34:12 GMT -5
Potheads always have the silliest reasons to justify their passtime. They also have denial syndrome that is easily on par with cigarette smokers.
Saying smoking weed for a year brings no side-effects is like saying smoking cigarettes for a year beings no side-effects. It is just plain wrong. You said you are calmer and more reasonable? Well guess what? Behavioral changes are a side-effect.
You want to know what else is a side-effect? Severe drop in testosterone levels. So you can keep smoking the weed but odds are you are going to have a dramatically reduced sex drive eventually. You may not even notice it as I am sure the chemical changes are incremental.
Not sure how old you are but weed also stunts growth. Then we should factor in that you are breathing super heated air that is heavily polluted. That being said, it obviously reduced oxygen taken to your body.
We should also look at the multiple kinds of cancer that come with smoking anything. Mouth, throat and lung cancers. And yes, weed is a cause of these things.
I have a friend who is a pothead and her lung capacity has severely dropped due to weed. Weed is all she does. Her doctor thought she was a cigarette smoker when she went in for her last checkup.
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Post by greenlantern555 on May 14, 2011 16:15:23 GMT -5
All of the things that you just said, yes are true, but are nothing compared to the "side-effects" of any other "drug." I am not saying that Weed is good for you, because it's very naive to think otherwise, but it's just as bad as the "legal drugs" that are available for purchase.
Cigarettes are the number one killer in the world and do you know how many pot related deaths there are a year? Little if any.
I am 19 years old and I am about as tall as I am going to get so "stunt growth" really doesn't worry me.
In order to get the multiple kinds of cancer, you have to be a long term smoker and smoke just about every day.
It's all about how much you take. It's just like anything else you intake. If you are smoking on the job, it's not the weed's fault, it's the idiot who thinks that's a good idea. They have to live the consequences. Just like if someone drank on the job.
Yes, I am a pot smoker, but I am very reasonable and I look at the whole picture. I know it's not good for my, but it's better than getting shitfaced.
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Post by Erik-El on May 14, 2011 18:27:10 GMT -5
Okay yeah I agree with you on that. Cigarettes and alcohol should also be illegal substances.
In fact, I think that all mind-altering substances or substances that inhibit or degrade the performance of man should be illegal. So fast food gets a nod as well as aspartame.
I think we are to the point (or should be) as a species where we can move on from just knowing it is bad for us to just not doing it.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 14, 2011 18:31:41 GMT -5
I don't want to live in a world where Tobacco and Alcohol are illegal.
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Post by Sherlock Laforet on May 14, 2011 22:33:49 GMT -5
Amen to that Crom
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