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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 22, 2011 16:38:16 GMT -5
True, he has some mighty issues with Iron man for some reason...
But honestly, even after reading two volumes of Iron man, learning what makes him tick, what made him do what he did, how much he struggled with it, and generally growing to love him as a character, I still find Thor bashing him into the ground a very entertaining scene. ;D
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 16:41:01 GMT -5
The fight was entertaining, no doubt about that. Coipel is a fantastic artist and that fight in particular played to his strengths. I simply think the whole thing was very much forced by JMS so that Thor could spend 10 pages beating Iron Man up.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 22, 2011 18:16:03 GMT -5
It was forced, no doubt. The whole issue was set up as some meta payback against All the shit he did during Civil War, and frankly I think it war more a commentary on that series and its fallout (coughonemoredaycough) than the character of Iron Man. And to be fair, for people who read only Civil War but never read Iron man's own issues, the fight is extremely cathartic.
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 18:19:14 GMT -5
Sure, but at the end of the day, JMS simply brought IM over so that Thor could whoop him. Not because there was a reason for a confrontation at that point, not because it felt organic in the manner the plot was advancing, and definitely not to progress either character.
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Post by JediXMan on Jun 22, 2011 18:22:22 GMT -5
The fight was entertaining, no doubt about that. Coipel is a fantastic artist and that fight in particular played to his strengths. I simply think the whole thing was very much forced by JMS so that Thor could spend 10 pages beating Iron Man up. I think it was just for the benefit of people who still felt raging hatred for how horrible Iron Man was during Civil War. |
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 22, 2011 18:23:13 GMT -5
The fight was entertaining, no doubt about that. Coipel is a fantastic artist and that fight in particular played to his strengths. I simply think the whole thing was very much forced by JMS so that Thor could spend 10 pages beating Iron Man up. I think it was just for the benefit of people who still felt raging hatred for how horrible Iron Man was during Civil War. |
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Jun 22, 2011 18:29:34 GMT -5
No argument about that.
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Post by JediXMan on Aug 28, 2011 0:25:43 GMT -5
Two questions:
1. Do we have a definitive answer now?
2. Has the reboot happened yet? I'm behind.
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Post by Geraldthesloth on Aug 28, 2011 0:47:36 GMT -5
It happens this coming wednesday
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Post by JediXMan on Aug 28, 2011 0:49:59 GMT -5
Hm.... should probably try to catch up this week, then....
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Post by Geraldthesloth on Aug 28, 2011 1:14:47 GMT -5
meh dc hasn't put out anything worth reading for me.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Aug 28, 2011 3:24:57 GMT -5
From what I gather the reboot is actually of the "Everything is still canon unless we say so" variety.
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Post by Beatboks on Aug 28, 2011 5:56:39 GMT -5
"It'd be funny if they change his costume to match the costume he'll have in TDKR. " I actually expect something along those lines, to be honest. It's my expectation that most of DCNu will tie more closely to the way the companies characters play out in digital media. To me it just makes sense. They want a universe that it would be easier for new readers to get into without having to delve into loads of back story. Most of those new readers will come from having seen the characters in one form or other of digital media. That's why i would expect bane to return. It's also why I believe Cyborg is in the JLA, and why Ollie has his company doing intel etc for him. |
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Post by Morpheus on Aug 28, 2011 6:27:04 GMT -5
From what I gather the reboot is actually of the "Everything is still canon unless we say so" variety. |
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Post by ckal on Aug 28, 2011 9:58:24 GMT -5
It definitely seems that for some characters it is a reboot. Superman seems like one of these characters that will actually be rebooted, but characters like Green Lantern or Batman seem like they will just be revamps.
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Post by Erik-El on Aug 28, 2011 10:24:32 GMT -5
Two questions: 1. Do we have a definitive answer now? 2. Has the reboot happened yet? I'm behind. 1. Yes. Batman issues and Green Lantern issues are still canon. So far, nothing else is considered canon to my knowledge aside from The Death of Superman. Superman is apparently getting a new origin as well since the rights to the original Superman go back to the creator's families. Wonder Woman is also getting a complete reboot. DC has stated that they want to keep the good stories for most characters. What they consider good stories has not been revealed yet beyond DoS and Batman/Green Lantern issues. 2. Wednesday brotha! |
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Aug 28, 2011 11:57:53 GMT -5
If Superman is going to be rather young in this universe. Then I guess Doomsday will be something he overcome when he was younger.
Personally, I think they get rid of it. As much as it was good. Lets grow some balls and just wipe the slate clean for Superman.
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Post by Lord Barbatos on Aug 28, 2011 12:38:12 GMT -5
If Superman is going to be rather young in this universe. Then I guess Doomsday will be something he overcome when he was younger. Personally, I think they get rid of it. As much as it was good. Lets grow some balls and just wipe the slate clean for Superman. NOOOOOOOO,Hank Henshaw should never ever be retconned. |
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Aug 28, 2011 12:43:45 GMT -5
Well he was involved with the Green Lantern major arcs. So I doubt he will get erased.
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Post by Erik-El on Aug 30, 2011 23:05:02 GMT -5
Well he was involved with the Green Lantern major arcs. So I doubt he will get erased. He might still be around but he might be different in concept. Such as no longer using Kal's DNA or whatever. |
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