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Post by Erik-El on Sept 21, 2011 0:12:23 GMT -5
Man Erik you are always hatin on the same thing in every one of these lol Personally i dont think illegalizing smoking will help the problem.As a matter of fact i think it will make it much worse.I started smoking when i was 15.Reason why i started was because it was cool to be a smoker at that age not because i liked it but because my friends did.If you were to illegalize it more people would do it just because its illegal.its like pot most people(Kids especially) only do it because it is in fact illegal. On the fast food issue,FAT IS NOT BAD FOR YOU!As a matter of fact its just the opposite.Real fats are good for you and essential to healthy living.The stuff you want to stay away from is the trans fat.That stuff is horrible and that is what all fast food places use because it can be mass produced and is therefore cheaper.If you want to ban something then ban trans fat and while your at it ban Corn syrup. Haters gotta hate. As for people who get into smoking because friends are, using that logic, we might as well lower the age of drinking to 13 because the rebel sneaks his father's scotch key anyway and his friends are likely to take a swig because it is wrong to do legally but oh-ho so right among bros. While we are at it, might as well lift the ban on heroine because if one guy does it, all his friends are going to do it. All my friends smoked weed. Every damn one. I never was around them when they rolled and I still do not hang around them when the baked slackers decide to roll. Now does that mean that I have more will than you? I do not know about that. I still have phases where I cannot leave my house if I think my floors look like they need a bleaching. I think it is more accurate to say I am a slave to my compulsions. Buuuuuuuut I think we can all agree that saying you smoked because your friends did is a weak ass excuse. As for your fast food thing, you are trying to dice words with a narcissistic, compulsive health nut. I know the difference between trans fat, saturated fat, monounsaturated fat and polyunsaturated fat. Fat (as the blanket term is used) is very bad for you. When people say "Eww fats are bad for you!" or "Eww fat is gross!", they really mean "Eww trans/saturated fat is bad for you!" and "Eww girl's body ate her thong!" respectively. |
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Post by Lunacyde Prime on Sept 21, 2011 17:08:40 GMT -5
Crom. What is your solution to the obesity that has been plaguing many industrialized nations? (United States, Canada, Australia, Japan, etc.)
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Sept 21, 2011 17:35:17 GMT -5
Crom. What is your solution to the obesity that has been plaguing many industrialized nations? (United States, Canada, Australia, Japan, etc.) Stricter work standards and conditions for admittance to government funding and support. Simply put, the reason obesity plagues nations is because people can get away with it without any consequence. Regardless of the availability of fast foods. You can have a burger and other fast foods and not be obese. It all comes down to being reasonable and not abusing anything again. If every workplace, government program and such requires standards of health and capacity to perform. Then people will have no choice to conform to them, or they will not get any money. And if they do not have money, they won't be paying their dues to state. If they don't, them they will be breaking the law. Jail for them, and the way I will be running jails. They'll lose that fat fast. If I ruled the world, jails would no longer be run by pansies. |
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Post by Lunacyde Prime on Sept 21, 2011 17:42:51 GMT -5
Don't you believe reforming the food industry, and removing certain subsidies that create and unfair price advantage for super- processed unhealthy foods? Right now $1.00 in America will buy you 4x as many calories worth of chips or soda as it will fresh vegetables or fruit. You can thank subsidies to the processed industrial food industry for this discrepancy, making healthier food sometimes economically unviable.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Sept 21, 2011 17:47:26 GMT -5
Has anyone read all of my post entirely?!  Don't you believe reforming the food industry, and removing certain subsidies that create and unfair price advantage for super- processed unhealthy foods? Right now $1.00 in America will buy you 4x as many calories worth of chips or soda as it will fresh vegetables or fruit. You can thank subsidies to the processed industrial food industry for this discrepancy, making healthier food sometimes economically unviable. But... addressing this, and repeating myself again. If I rule the world, the entire economy including their pricing system will be completely overhauled. That means changes in pricing, taxation and costs of import/export and production. This will include food. I won't prevent people from eating fast food. But I will implement programs that promote healthy as well as environmentally responsible food. |
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Post by Lunacyde Prime on Sept 21, 2011 17:50:07 GMT -5
So you don't believe in letting the market do it's thing?  |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Sept 21, 2011 17:54:33 GMT -5
So you don't believe in letting the market do it's thing? The market is run by amoral, greedy and unreasonable mechanisms. So absolutely not. The market absolutely needs the oversight of the State. |
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Post by Sherlock Laforet on Sept 21, 2011 22:18:10 GMT -5
Man Erik you are always hatin on the same thing in every one of these lol Personally i dont think illegalizing smoking will help the problem.As a matter of fact i think it will make it much worse.I started smoking when i was 15.Reason why i started was because it was cool to be a smoker at that age not because i liked it but because my friends did.If you were to illegalize it more people would do it just because its illegal.its like pot most people(Kids especially) only do it because it is in fact illegal. On the fast food issue,FAT IS NOT BAD FOR YOU!As a matter of fact its just the opposite.Real fats are good for you and essential to healthy living.The stuff you want to stay away from is the trans fat.That stuff is horrible and that is what all fast food places use because it can be mass produced and is therefore cheaper.If you want to ban something then ban trans fat and while your at it ban Corn syrup. Haters gotta hate. As for people who get into smoking because friends are, using that logic, we might as well lower the age of drinking to 13 because the rebel sneaks his father's scotch key anyway and his friends are likely to take a swig because it is wrong to do legally but oh-ho so right among bros. While we are at it, might as well lift the ban on heroine because if one guy does it, all his friends are going to do it. All my friends smoked weed. Every damn one. I never was around them when they rolled and I still do not hang around them when the baked slackers decide to roll. Now does that mean that I have more will than you? I do not know about that. I still have phases where I cannot leave my house if I think my floors look like they need a bleaching. I think it is more accurate to say I am a slave to my compulsions. Buuuuuuuut I think we can all agree that saying you smoked because your friends did is a weak ass excuse. As for your fast food thing, you are trying to dice words with a narcissistic, compulsive health nut. I know the difference between trans fat, saturated fat, monounsaturated fat and polyunsaturated fat. Fat (as the blanket term is used) is very bad for you. When people say "Eww fats are bad for you!" or "Eww fat is gross!", they really mean "Eww trans/saturated fat is bad for you!" and "Eww girl's body ate her thong!" respectively. I personally dont see why there is a legal drinking age in general.Its not like some sort of miraculous light engulfs you at age 21 (In the US) making it so you can do it.Now that being said i dont know of any better solution to it so im not going to go any further.In my mind parent should let their kids expirience alcohol at home and at a young age.By doing this you make it so when peer pressure comes into play its not that big a deal for the kid whos parents already let him drink.The biggest upside is if you let your child drink at home then if they do take it too far then you have them where you can keep an eye on them. Heroin is just plain bad for you and is one of the most addicting drugs on the planet.No i would not ever say to legalize that In terms of all your friends doing pot and that sort of thing im gonna say you more than likely have more will power than i do (At least when i was 15) Most people also think that fats such as butter is bad for you,which is why most of them go for the "I cant believe its not butter" crap.That stuff will kill you.Theres a lot of people who think that any fat at all is bad for you. @crom I never said that everyone would utilize the knowledge if you made it mandatory to learn agriculture,but there area great many people that would.Its a useful thing to know in my personal opinion and i people did utilize it then they could cut their food bill down by a tremendous amount.Not to mention they will have plenty of good food around and wont have to buy all that processed stuff |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Sept 21, 2011 22:23:28 GMT -5
@crom I never said that everyone would utilize the knowledge if you made it mandatory to learn agriculture,but there area great many people that would.Its a useful thing to know in my personal opinion and i people did utilize it then they could cut their food bill down by a tremendous amount.Not to mention they will have plenty of good food around and wont have to buy all that processed stuff As I see it, it will not be cost effective or beneficial on a grand scale to force such education. Not with a strong control of agricultural practices for more environmentally safe producing and mandatory education on health as well as government policies promoting health. However, if one is interested in such knowledge it is totally in the states mandate to make such knowledge more accessible. And such will be. If I rules the world, all education would be upgraded to promote knowledge and critical thinking. |
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Post by Lunacyde Prime on Sept 22, 2011 14:19:24 GMT -5
So you don't believe in letting the market do it's thing? The market is run by amoral, greedy and unreasonable mechanisms. So absolutely not. The market absolutely needs the oversight of the State. For a second I was going to point out the State is run by no less amoral, greedy, unreasonable people, but then I remember you are the state, not current leaders lol. |
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Post by Lunacyde Prime on Sept 22, 2011 14:24:30 GMT -5
Just because people have a knowledge of agriculture doesn't mean a majority will want to put in the effort to care for and raise plants and animals when it's far more cost effective and just plain easier to walk down to the supermarket. Notice I said many, not all.
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Post by Lunacyde Prime on Sept 22, 2011 21:09:03 GMT -5
Lord Crom...how would you deal with dissenters or a coup?
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Post by Sherlock Laforet on Sept 22, 2011 22:38:22 GMT -5
@crom What are your restriction on agricultureal practices?You may have got into this already but i dont feel like looking through the whole thread
@luna Most people have no problem with a flower garden.In fact almost every domestic home in the US has one.Using that space and time to grow food isnt that far a stretch
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Post by Lunacyde Prime on Sept 23, 2011 11:48:31 GMT -5
@crom What are your restriction on agricultureal practices?You may have got into this already but i dont feel like looking through the whole thread @luna Most people have no problem with a flower garden.In fact almost every domestic home in the US has one.Using that space and time to grow food isnt that far a stretch Well it all depends on what you're growing. Growing flowers requires significantly less time and energy than growing animals. My family grows corn, tomatoes, squash, cucumbers, zuchini, onions, and pumpkins in our garden so i realize some people are up to that kind of thing, but I'd wager many aren't, especially those who live in overwhelmingly urban environments. We also have grape vines, apple trees, and strawberry, blackberry, and bushes. |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Sept 23, 2011 13:16:29 GMT -5
Lord Crom...how would you deal with dissenters or a coup? It really depends on the type of dissension. Lawful and reasonable expressions of opposition to my policies would not be stopped from being expressed. Those I would honestly listen to and see if and what can be done to put their concerns to rest. Not that I will surrender my power until all the changes I want are fully implemented and active. But the enlightened state does need to listen to the concerns of it's citizens as the State serves the citizen. Violent, douchy and otherwise mean spirited expressions however would not be tolerated and would feel the full wrath of the law and be quickly silence, put down and ended. All within lawful and fair trial manner. As for a coup, such an action would constitute act of treason and war and properly dealt with. Since I control the world, they wouldn' have the ability to do much except fail and piss the satisfied majority off. @crom What are your restriction on agricultureal practices?You may have got into this already but i dont feel like looking through the whole thread Lazy Bum!  Agricultural practices in too many cases at the moment do not promote long term environmental growth. Especially in countries struggling under poverty. A good example is the slash and burn practices in south america to clear away large swats of the rainforest for farming and agriculture. Whom is actually not viable in the long term. Agricultural practices must be upgraded so as to be functional on a large scale without being hostile to the environment. Furthermore, sterner standards on chemicals and such in food products must be implemented to make all foods, safe healthy and viable. With such practices, the use for personal agricultural gardens becomes far less relevant. Also, because of the importance food production has to the mass and the state. Policies will be implemented to make such a profession attractive and functional. |
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