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Post by jakefury on Sept 18, 2012 15:33:33 GMT -5
Black Lightning (pre-52)
vs
Havok (Alex Summers/current)
•Fight takes place in downtown Metropolis. •The city is abandoned. •Empty buildings can be used for refuge and cover. •Morals are on for both. •They begin 10 blocks away from each other. •Time of day is 6:00 PM. •Both men are only aware of a high powered threat in the area. •Neither has to worry about loss of life, property damage or the City of Metropolis suing them for damages.
Win by standard means. Who takes it?
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Post by Strafe Prower on Sept 18, 2012 16:54:30 GMT -5
Ill take Black Lightning for the sake of debate
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Post by Ferro_Vida on Sept 20, 2012 0:51:12 GMT -5
Ill take Black Lightning for the sake of debate Yeah? I'll take Havok.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Sept 20, 2012 0:52:09 GMT -5
Ill take Black Lightning for the sake of debate Yeah? I'll take Havok. Why will he win then?
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Post by Ferro_Vida on Sept 20, 2012 0:54:02 GMT -5
Unless I'm very much mistaken, he can absorb BL's energy.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Sept 20, 2012 0:55:51 GMT -5
Unless I'm very much mistaken, he can absorb BL's energy. I figured as much, but considering that Black Lightning has an unlimited power source I don't see it helping Havok.
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Post by Ferro_Vida on Sept 20, 2012 0:57:10 GMT -5
Unless I'm very much mistaken, he can absorb BL's energy. I figured as much, but considering that Black Lightning has an unlimited power source I don't see it helping Havok. It makes it a lot more difficult for BL to actually take him out. And Havok has absorbed and utilized the energies of a star. Can BL's shields stand up to that kind of output?
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Post by Strafe Prower on Sept 20, 2012 1:03:58 GMT -5
He has never faced something of that level of power. However, I don't see Havok producing that level of attack against a stranger.
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Post by Ferro_Vida on Sept 20, 2012 1:05:37 GMT -5
He has never faced something of that level of power. However, I don't see Havok producing that level of attack against a stranger. I agree, but he is capable of it. He has an endless energy supply right in front of him, so he can keep pounding BL until he DOES go down.
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Post by Dane on Sept 20, 2012 1:09:11 GMT -5
Havok's power output is actually seriously huge. I think he would obliterate Black Lightning either way. My Havok Scans
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Post by Ferro_Vida on Sept 20, 2012 1:11:31 GMT -5
Havok's power output is actually seriously huge. I think he would obliterate Black Lightning either way. My Havok ScansYou're a saint among gentlemen.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Sept 20, 2012 1:22:04 GMT -5
He has never faced something of that level of power. However, I don't see Havok producing that level of attack against a stranger. I agree, but he is capable of it. He has an endless energy supply right in front of him, so he can keep pounding BL until he DOES go down. I don't think that he will get that many chances. After Black Lightning sees that his attacks aren't working well, he's going to go to extremes. I could see him taking it up close.
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Post by Ferro_Vida on Sept 20, 2012 1:26:56 GMT -5
I agree, but he is capable of it. He has an endless energy supply right in front of him, so he can keep pounding BL until he DOES go down. I don't think that he will get that many chances. After Black Lightning sees that his attacks aren't working well, he's going to go to extremes. I could see him taking it up close. Havok can produce an omni-directional wave and fly. BL won't get close if Havok doesn't want him to.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Sept 20, 2012 1:34:22 GMT -5
I don't think that he will get that many chances. After Black Lightning sees that his attacks aren't working well, he's going to go to extremes. I could see him taking it up close. Havok can produce an omni-directional wave and fly. BL won't get close if Havok doesn't want him to. Black Lightning can do the exact same things. Not to mention that he can make his body become electricity, Making him invulnerable to blasts. Also, shields can be used to block blasts. If he can block Geo-Force's blasts, he can block anything Havok does with morals on.
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Post by Ferro_Vida on Sept 20, 2012 1:37:34 GMT -5
Havok can produce an omni-directional wave and fly. BL won't get close if Havok doesn't want him to. Black Lightning can do the exact same things. Not to mention that he can make his body become electricity, Making him invulnerable to blasts. Also, shields can be used to block blasts. If he can block Geo-Force's blasts, he can block anything Havok does with morals on. Then why can't Havok absorb his body? Havok's morals are a bit looser then his brother's, And he does have some impressive output even with morals.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Sept 20, 2012 1:49:23 GMT -5
Black Lightning can do the exact same things. Not to mention that he can make his body become electricity, Making him invulnerable to blasts. Also, shields can be used to block blasts. If he can block Geo-Force's blasts, he can block anything Havok does with morals on. Then why can't Havok absorb his body? Havok's morals are a bit looser then his brother's, And he does have some impressive output even with morals. Can Havok absorb and attack at the same time? Black Lightning would only do so to avoid attacks, he wouldn't stay that way. He doesn't like it. True, but Black Lightning has taken out part of a city and destroyed a kyprtonian level robot with one blast. I don't see Havok doing anything with morals that Black Lightning couldn't match.
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Post by Ferro_Vida on Sept 20, 2012 2:03:21 GMT -5
Then why can't Havok absorb his body? Havok's morals are a bit looser then his brother's, And he does have some impressive output even with morals. Can Havok absorb and attack at the same time? Black Lightning would only do so to avoid attacks, he wouldn't stay that way. He doesn't like it. True, but Black Lightning has taken out part of a city and destroyed a kyprtonian level robot with one blast. I don't see Havok doing anything with morals that Black Lightning couldn't match. He is constantly absorbing energy by default. He's like a rechargeable battery. And I don't see BL attacking with anyone that Havok couldn't absorb If it came to it then Havok would do whatever he had to to put BL down. He walked away from his time with the Star Jammers a much more determined person, and it's not like him going that far is particularly surprising for him.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Sept 20, 2012 2:08:35 GMT -5
Can Havok absorb and attack at the same time? Black Lightning would only do so to avoid attacks, he wouldn't stay that way. He doesn't like it. True, but Black Lightning has taken out part of a city and destroyed a kyprtonian level robot with one blast. I don't see Havok doing anything with morals that Black Lightning couldn't match. He is constantly absorbing energy by default. He's like a rechargeable battery. And I don't see BL attacking with anyone that Havok couldn't absorb If it came to it then Havok would do whatever he had to to put BL down. He walked away from his time with the Star Jammers a much more determined person, and it's not like him going that far is particularly surprising for him. Since isn't consiously absorbing the energy, he won't have more control over it than Black Lightning. Lightning can control electromagnetic energy at a sub-atomic level. I don't see Havok just absorbing his body. What type of energy does Havok produce once he absorbs it? Do he just channel the energy back out as electromagnetic energy?
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Post by Ferro_Vida on Sept 20, 2012 2:13:11 GMT -5
He is constantly absorbing energy by default. He's like a rechargeable battery. And I don't see BL attacking with anyone that Havok couldn't absorb If it came to it then Havok would do whatever he had to to put BL down. He walked away from his time with the Star Jammers a much more determined person, and it's not like him going that far is particularly surprising for him. Since isn't consiously absorbing the energy, he won't have more control over it than Black Lightning. Lightning can control electromagnetic energy at a sub-atomic level. I don't see Havok just absorbing his body. What type of energy does Havok produce once he absorbs it? Do he just channel the energy back out as electromagnetic energy? It doesn't change that he can't hurt Havok with an energy attack He produces plasma.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Sept 20, 2012 2:14:34 GMT -5
Since isn't consiously absorbing the energy, he won't have more control over it than Black Lightning. Lightning can control electromagnetic energy at a sub-atomic level. I don't see Havok just absorbing his body. What type of energy does Havok produce once he absorbs it? Do he just channel the energy back out as electromagnetic energy? It doesn't change that he can't hurt Havok with an energy attack He produces plasma. He can overload him. Havok has limits, as he has stated. Gotcha.
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