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Post by creator on Oct 27, 2012 23:46:07 GMT -5
Power Grid: Body Enhancement This is the grid discussion for the following powers, Growth Shrinking Stretching Shape Change Mass Increase Mass Decrease (to reach intangibility) Invisibility Matter / Energy Duplication Power Duplication / Vampirism Duplication Evolution These grids are composed of adders that you use to build up the characters power. Look at their feats and these use the adders on the grids to build an approximation of their power. Where possible please list the adders used to rank the character. As we have a lot of powers on this grid, we will need to have compiled lists for each power. I will post these once we have begun to rank each character. Please feel free to post feats but try to make them ones that can be ranked. If required I can and will (with your help) attempt to estimate the feat. Attachments:
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Post by creator on Oct 27, 2012 23:49:45 GMT -5
Here is a list of characters that we can begin to score to rank them accordingly. If you have a feat for them I.e. a growth feat for Goliath, please post it.
Invisibility Invisible Woman Invisible Man 1 (LOSH) Invisible Man I1 (LOSH) Super Skrull Magneto Nightcrawler
Growth Hank Pym Clint Barton Uncle Sam Goliath Atlas (when his powers changed from when he was Goliath) Black Goliath Stature Giganta Atom Smasher Colossal Boy Living Monolith Tower Box (Jeffries) Titan Mighty Man Micromax Martian Manhunter Stranger Nuklo Tyrak Gentle Earth Lord Maul Sandman Zzzax Carnage Venom Anti-Venom Toxin Elastigirl
Shrinking Wasp Hank Pym Ant-Man Doll Man Doll Man 2 Shrinking Violet Micromax Mighty Man Atom Scintilla Martian Manhunter Elastigirl Box (Jeffries)
Mass Increase Vision Thunder Star boy Paragon Ironclad Gentle Mass Master Will O' the Wisp
Mass Decrease Vision Kitty Pryde Atom Smasher Martian Manhunter Capt Ultra Moonstone Phantom Girl Cloak Mass Master Quicksand Will O' the Wisp
Stretching Elongated Man Plastic Man Mr. Fantastic Martian Manhunter Super Skrull Doughboy Clayface Warlock Box (Jeffries) Metamorpho Thin Man Sandman Hydroman Machine Man Doc Octopus Constrictor Omega Red Quicksand Carnage Venom Anti-Venom Toxin Stiltman Void Whiplash Elastigirl
Shapeshifting Martian Manhunter Skrull race Hulkling Snowbird Awesome Android Beast Boy Beast Boy (LOSH) Chameleon Lad (LOSH) Doughboy Clayface Warlock (New Mutants) Box (Jeffries) Chameleon Apocalypse Metamorhpo Nimrod Sandman Hydroman Impossible man Morph Quicksand Shape Carnage Venom Anti-Venom Toxin Void The Engineer Mr Fantastic
Evolution Evolvo Lad Manikin Doomsday Griffin Darwin Nemesis Kid
Duplication Multiple Man Manikin Time Shadow Gardner Monroe Duplicate Girl Riot Impossible man Clay The Engineer
Power Duplication/Vampirism Mimic Lamprey Absorbing Man Parasite Duplicate Boy Rogue Super Adaptoid Awesome Android Amazo Space Phantom Impossible Man Hope Synch Peter Petrelli
Matter/Energy Duplication Absorbing Man Amazing Man Gas Girl (LOSH) Vapor Ferro Lad (LOSH) Colossus Grey Gargoyle Metamorpho Impossible man Pulsar Wind Warrior
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 10:06:09 GMT -5
Growth Hank Pym/Wasp/Goliath/Giantman The fight appears to take place next to the Brooklyn Bridge. The bridge has a height of 275'. Pym appears as tall as the bridge (anywhere along its span). This would make this a rank 10 feat. Attachments:
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 10:13:58 GMT -5
Growth
Ultimate Universe Hank Pym Capable of growing to 60' making this a rank 7 feat.
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 10:24:10 GMT -5
Growth Mighty Man (from the Malibu produced Protectors comic). Can grow to 20' which is a rank 5 feat. Shrinking Mighty Man Can shrink to the size of a teddy bear which is a rank 5 feat Attachments:
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 10:56:18 GMT -5
Absorbing Man
Power Duplication / Vampirism He must touch his foe +0 He can retain the duplicated power indefinitely +4 He has appeared to only duplicate 1 persons power at a time +0 He has duplicated physical, mystical and mental powers but usually asks the skill to use them effectively +3 He has duplicated Thors and Hulks strength +12 Total: 19
Matter / Energy Duplication Has duplicated Capt America's shield and Mjolnir but failed to absorb the power of the entire planet, +12 Has retained his form until he willed otherwise +3 Has reattached his arm and reassembled himself when he was water, glass and cocaine +1 Has been shown to duplicate the size of a skyscraper and the mystical properties of Mjolnir +4 He has been shown to have the properties of brick and steel at the same time +1 He can duplicate all matter and energy forms, from light, sonics, gas, steel and enchanted Uru +4 Total: 25
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 28, 2012 12:42:07 GMT -5
Growth Ultimate Universe Hank Pym Capable of growing to 60' making this a rank 7 feat. Awesome. Though he was capable of further growth once he came back to the Ultimates and presumably was given the formula for growing beyond the 60 feet. This is assumed because while he was not on the team, the new Giant Men passes the 60 mark by a wide margin. And in Ultimatum, he seemed to be well beyond 60 before sacrificing himself.
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Post by CitizenBane on Oct 28, 2012 13:55:31 GMT -5
Shrinking feat for Pym: He shrinks himself and Absorbing Man down into the microverse, a sub-atomic universe.
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Post by CitizenBane on Oct 28, 2012 14:34:18 GMT -5
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 15:37:21 GMT -5
Awesome. Though he was capable of further growth once he came back to the Ultimates and presumably was given the formula for growing beyond the 60 feet. This is assumed because while he was not on the team, the new Giant Men passes the 60 mark by a wide margin. And in Ultimatum, he seemed to be well beyond 60 before sacrificing himself. That's true I just haven't seen the images of him that big. Have we got any images on the Giant Men who were Shield agents and were a lo bigger than 60' tall ?
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 15:49:05 GMT -5
Shrinking feat for Pym: He shrinks himself and Absorbing Man down into the microverse, a sub-atomic universe. If I remember correctly, to enter the microverse, you had to shed 99.99% of your mass. This gets into 'gross scale' microverse as hewn by the picture, where Pym is still a giant. He then continues to shrink to get to the stature of the microverse inhabitants. However if you go by the grid (which is mathematically correct) this would be a rank 7 feat and he would still be 2" high. This does not it with my memories of him passing this threshold. I would instead say it would be around a rank 11 or 12 feat to enter the microverse and then a rank 18 to 20 feat to get to the correct inhabitant size.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 28, 2012 15:54:26 GMT -5
Awesome. Though he was capable of further growth once he came back to the Ultimates and presumably was given the formula for growing beyond the 60 feet. This is assumed because while he was not on the team, the new Giant Men passes the 60 mark by a wide margin. And in Ultimatum, he seemed to be well beyond 60 before sacrificing himself. That's true I just haven't seen the images of him that big. Have we got any images on the Giant Men who were Shield agents and were a lo bigger than 60' tall ? I think I can dig some up for you. Might even dig up Pym's death to see if you can estimate his height there. I imagine he was as big as he could get for his death.
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 16:15:58 GMT -5
Growth The monster started out at 200' and kept growing. It looks to be nearer the 400' mark now. However I don't think she is as big as it so I'm going with 300' which is a rank 10 feat. Shrinking Looking at the scale, I would say she is similar in size to a red blood cell making this a rank 12 feat. Duplication Conscious choice to duplicate +1 Independent action +1 Equal abilities to original +1 Line of sight for creating a new duplicate +1 Range of operation greater than 500 miles +5 Duplicate death has no impact +3 Retains duplicate learning after reabsorption +1 Duplicates can be reabsorbed over 500 miles +5 82 duplicates +5 Total: 23
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 16:32:05 GMT -5
I think I can dig some up for you. Might even dig up Pym's death to see if you can estimate his height there. I imagine he was as big as he could get for his death. Thanks. That would be great.
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 19:47:26 GMT -5
Mr Fantastic
Stretching He stretched down the entire height of Freedom Four plaza and he was not fully elongating his legs or arms. Freedom Four plaza is rated as rank 11 for length / height. So I would rate this feat as Rank 12.
Shapechange He has modified his face for hours at a time to disguise himself when he and sue were using secret identies. He has assumed plain geometric shapes. He has altered his size (inflated himself) to have a larger physique. Full body: +1 Cannot copy:+0 Humanoids only: +1 (because although he can assume basic geometric shapes) Fixed colors: +3 Can only hold it for 1 day as holding these other shapes requires a concentration +1 Minor size changes +1 As he does not really shape change in to another creature or object at a cellular level, he does duplicate any other powers. Total: 7
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 20:16:59 GMT -5
Living Monolith Growth In Marvel Graphic Novel 17, the Living Monolith finally gets past his previous growth levels and finds that at hundreds and then thousands of feet tall, he cannot move as his mass exceeds his strength. He growth continues and Thor opens a portal and puts him in to another solar system where he becomes the Living Planet (yes Ego is not the only character laying claim to that title). When we finally see him in deep space it is hard to gauge his size but the text mentions miles. So I'm going out on a limb and saying this is a least a rank 23 feat. Attachments:
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 21:42:13 GMT -5
Madison Jefferies / Box Growth He absorbed the material mass from an artic base to augment his size to fight Tundra. Another image shows the Alpha Flight team taking a elevator platform inside the Box armor that clearly indicates the armor is several hundred feet high. I would rate this as a rank 10 feat. Attachments:
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 21:44:41 GMT -5
Madison Jefferies / Box Shrinking Madison has shed mass from the Box armor and appears to be approx 1' high which makes this a rank 5 feat. Attachments:
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 28, 2012 21:53:12 GMT -5
Got em. Putting them on a image hoster now.
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Post by creator on Oct 28, 2012 21:53:59 GMT -5
Invisible Boy II (LOSH) Invisibility He could only cover himself from what I recall +0 He could not project his power accordingly +0 He was however invisible to visual, audio, scent and telepathic senses +4 Total: 4 Attachments:
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