yaujtapool
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Post by yaujtapool on Apr 1, 2011 14:10:41 GMT -5
A place to discuss advanced prototype weapons in development, or ones that have already been created. This can include many things ranging from exoskeletons and armed robots to force fields or just microwave guns. To start it off: HULC Battlesuit: While this may not be approaching Ironman levels of advancement it is certainly a pretty impressive piece of equipment. Allowing for the user to lift a weight of up to 200 lbs for extended periods of time. Below a video showing its capabilities
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Apr 1, 2011 14:11:58 GMT -5
*trying to resist the urge to remind of the hangar problem*
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 1, 2011 14:16:43 GMT -5
Nice! I am surprised at how un-cumbersome it is. I was expecting to see some massive, difficult to use piece of crap but that actually looks pretty good considering it is not sci-fi and the knowledge that it does not impede the users movements is also really interesting.
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Post by yaujtapool on Apr 1, 2011 14:26:59 GMT -5
*trying to resist the urge to remind of the hangar problem* Whats this ?
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Apr 1, 2011 14:30:34 GMT -5
To put it in simple terms. It's the problem of new weapons/military technology in recent years being destined to the hangar and not seeing any real use for various reasons. Even if they work fine.
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Post by yaujtapool on Apr 1, 2011 14:33:48 GMT -5
To put it in simple terms. It's the problem of new weapons/military technology in recent years being destined to the hangar and not seeing any real use for various reasons. Even if they work fine. I suppose they have their reasons for this
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Apr 1, 2011 14:34:33 GMT -5
Most of the time the reasons are one of the following: 1-Budget 2-Political 3-General doucheyness
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Apr 1, 2011 14:54:53 GMT -5
Can you name some examples, Crom? Off the top of my head, I can only think of the Comanche project.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Apr 1, 2011 15:01:12 GMT -5
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Apr 1, 2011 15:26:29 GMT -5
Hm, Interesting. I heard about CF-105 before, that was a pretty stupid decision. This PMA thing is new though.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Apr 1, 2011 15:30:25 GMT -5
There's many more examples then the government or military will ever officially admit. The U.S has plenty of weapons and tools that will never see any action or were simply destroyed because of political issues like not letting Canadians one-up them and the prime minister not having the balls to give them the finger because of the current political arena.
Other reasons are simply cost. Many of this new technology works well but losing one is significantly more costly in the long run then just using regular soldiers with run of the mill equipment even when loss of life and personnel training costs are included.
This is not even going into the ethical, moral and political issues/problems some of this technology might raise if they were used even once. So the military just goes "nice, put it in the hangar there" and it gets buried.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 2, 2011 12:19:19 GMT -5
I can understand the cost being prohibitive for practical use on the exoskeleton, but what kind of ethical, moral and political problems could possibly arise from its use in battle?
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Post by yaujtapool on Apr 2, 2011 12:40:41 GMT -5
I can understand the cost being prohibitive for practical use on the exoskeleton, but what kind of ethical, moral and political problems could possibly arise from its use in battle? I dont see any ethical issues with that but perhaps this would cause some worry.... "One of the more bizarre additions to the list, the Pentagon’s coo-coo-crazy research arm known as DARPA will apparently be investing $6 million into a project called BioDesign. The goal is to eliminate the “randomness of natural evolutionary advancement.” Basically they aim to create living, breathing creatures with enhanced resistance to death that can be “programmed to live indefinitely.” So what’s going to keep these zombies armed with weapons from going bonkers and turning to the enemy you ask? Simple: a genetically-coded kill switch."
"The Pentagon’s mad science arm may have come up with its most radical project yet. Darpa is looking to re-write the laws of evolution to the military’s advantage, creating “synthetic organisms” that can live forever — or can be killed with the flick of a molecular switch.
As part of its budget for the next year, Darpa is investing $6 million into a project called BioDesign, with the goal of eliminating “the randomness of natural evolutionary advancement.” The plan would assemble the latest bio-tech knowledge to come up with living, breathing creatures that are genetically engineered to “produce the intended biological effect.” Darpa wants the organisms to be fortified with molecules that bolster cell resistance to death, so that the lab-monsters can “ultimately be programmed to live indefinitely.”
Of course, Darpa’s got to prevent the super-species from being swayed to do enemy work — so they’ll encode loyalty right into DNA, by developing genetically programmed locks to create “tamper proof” cells. Plus, the synthetic organism will be traceable, using some kind of DNA manipulation, “similar to a serial number on a handgun.” And if that doesn’t work, don’t worry. In case Darpa’s plan somehow goes horribly awry, they’re also tossing in a last-resort, genetically-coded kill switch:"
Scary stuff !
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 2, 2011 12:45:51 GMT -5
I think that sounds pretty cool. Maybe if they develop that fast enough, I can get me one of those immortal bods for myself.
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Post by yaujtapool on Apr 2, 2011 12:46:43 GMT -5
I think that sounds pretty cool. Maybe if they develop that fast enough, I can get me one of those immortal bods for myself. My thoughts exactly lol
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Apr 2, 2011 14:25:15 GMT -5
Basically they aim to create living, breathing creatures with enhanced resistance to death. "Enhanced resistance to death?" Is it just me or does that line sound hilarious?
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Apr 2, 2011 14:45:08 GMT -5
I can understand the cost being prohibitive for practical use on the exoskeleton, but what kind of ethical, moral and political problems could possibly arise from its use in battle? not all of them get canned for ethical reasons. Most likely here, this one would get canned for either costs or political reasons. edit: as to the genetic soldiers, it will get canned, if it's even in any serious work in the first place, which is somewhat doubtful.
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Post by yaujtapool on Apr 2, 2011 15:30:39 GMT -5
Basically they aim to create living, breathing creatures with enhanced resistance to death. "Enhanced resistance to death?" Is it just me or does that line sound hilarious? lol it makes me think of zombies.
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Post by Power NeXus on Apr 2, 2011 15:33:32 GMT -5
Basically they aim to create living, breathing creatures with enhanced resistance to death. "Enhanced resistance to death?" Is it just me or does that line sound hilarious? It makes death sound like a disease to which one can get more or less immune. "Thanks to the government's new products, I can get killed in a car crash with hardly any side effects at all! Thank you, Death-B-Gone!"
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Post by yaujtapool on Apr 2, 2011 15:44:39 GMT -5
LOL
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