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Post by Strafe Prower on Dec 20, 2010 14:55:53 GMT -5
And yet they are complete morons with zero tactical intelligence. Thus they will die to a competent hunter. Also untrue as Jasper was a Major in the Confederate Army, being highly skilled in H2H fighting and strategic planning. He specializes in killing Vampires, actually. Generalizing the whole universe on a few characters, is not a good idea, my friend. They also have defenses against a hunter. there is the girl who has a physical shield that is has never been penetrated. There have been several Vampires with the ability to Track anything. Not to mention the have 2 Vamps with TP and 1 with Pre-cog. Saying Blade would kill the whole universe is ludicrous. |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 20, 2010 15:13:55 GMT -5
Also untrue as Jasper was a Major in the Confederate Army The confederate army lost dude, and being a major is not an indicator of tactical skill. A lot of ranking officers in the confederate army got their position because they were the rich landowners... being highly skilled in H2H fighting and strategic planning. He specializes in killing Vampires, actually. Specializing in killing dumb emo teenagers is not much of a skill. there is the girl who has a physical shield that is has never been penetrated. There have been several Vampires with the ability to Track anything. Not to mention the have 2 Vamps with TP and 1 with Pre-cog. Nothing of which have ever met anyone like Blade who's killed things far more hardcore then the twillight pussy vamps. Saying Blade would kill the whole universe is ludicrous. A literary universe is only limited in what we know and can extrapolate or have seen in the stories. It doesn't matter if there could be actual badass vampires in the Twillight universe, as far a I'm concerned if Blade murdered every vampire seen in those novels, he's murdered that universe... and I would rejoice because Twillight sucks and is an insult to all real vampires in every literary medium. |
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Post by Strafe Prower on Dec 20, 2010 15:47:47 GMT -5
Also untrue as Jasper was a Major in the Confederate Army The confederate army lost dude, and being a major is not an indicator of tactical skill. A lot of ranking officers in the confederate army got their position because they were the rich landowners... Specializing in killing dumb emo teenagers is not much of a skill. Nothing of which have ever met anyone like Blade who's killed things far more hardcore then the twillight pussy vamps. Saying Blade would kill the whole universe is ludicrous. A literary universe is only limited in what we know and can extrapolate or have seen in the stories. It doesn't matter if there could be actual badass vampires in the Twillight universe, as far a I'm concerned if Blade murdered every vampire seen in those novels, he's murdered that universe... and I would rejoice because Twillight sucks and is an insult to all real vampires in every literary medium. The fact that the confederate army lost has no merit on his strategic ability as an individual. Also, he then became the commander of a vampire army, training them how to fight. He does have H2H skills and shows this in the Eclipse. Saying he hasn't when you haven't read the material or watched the movies, shows that you have no idea what they are truely capable of. Killing newborn vampires in the twilight universe is a major feat. Newborn vampires, in the twilight universe, are the strongest version of a vampire. Jasper has never lost to one. This statement shows that you no means of actually debating, just expressing how your opinion of the literature and characters in question is right. In fact, Blade would lose and I have already proved why. I said nothing about potential characters, the characters that we actually see in the books would more than enough to beat Blade. You just confirm that you have no idea about the books or characters. In fact,l I haven't even talked about the other characters they have outside of Vampires. The Shape Shifter's can smell Vampires from miles away, taking away any suprise advantage Blade could have had. |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 20, 2010 15:59:14 GMT -5
He does have H2H skills and shows this in the Eclipse. Saying he hasn't when you haven't read the material or watched the movies, shows that you have no idea what they are truely capable of. First off, chill out dude. Second I am not being serious past voicing my hate of twillight and everything in it. Third don't make assumptions I am in fact well aware of what twillight vampires are capable off. Seriously calm done and take a joke. This statement shows that you no means of actually debating, just expressing how your opinion of the literature and characters in question is right. In fact, Blade would lose and I have already proved why. I'm not debating, I'm ranting as deliberately humorous, calm down dude and get over it. As to Blade versus twilight vamps. I do believe the characters act like morons. But that's because Stephanie Meyer is a terrible writer all across the board as opposed to how someone with their alleged background should act. And as to blade taking them on. I'm not going to start this here. But suffice to say for them to have any competence with the powers they do have (and they are vast) another writer should be writing them. Because Stephanie Meyer's writing doesn't help them. And again, Twillight is a terrible piece of writing and what it's doing to vampires is shameful. |
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Post by Strafe Prower on Dec 20, 2010 16:16:43 GMT -5
He does have H2H skills and shows this in the Eclipse. Saying he hasn't when you haven't read the material or watched the movies, shows that you have no idea what they are truely capable of. First off, chill out dude. Second I am not being serious past voicing my hate of twillight and everything in it. Third don't make assumptions. I am well aware of Twillight. And third I am in fact well aware of what twillight vampires are capable off. Seriously calm done and take a joke. This statement shows that you no means of actually debating, just expressing how your opinion of the literature and characters in question is right. In fact, Blade would lose and I have already proved why. I'm not debating, I'm ranting as deliberately humorous, calm down dude and get over it. As to Blade versus twilight vamps. I do believe the characters act like morons. But that's because Stephanie Meyer is a terrible writer all across the board as opposed to how someone with their alleged background should act. And as to blade taking them on. I'm not going to start this here. But suffice to say for them to have any competence with the powers they do have (and they are vast) another writer should be writing them. Because Stephanie Meyer's writing doesn't help them. And again, Twillight is a terrible piece of writing and what it's doing to vampires is shameful. Im quite calm, I just get a bit skeptical of people who bash things and characters in debates, when they act as if they haven't read the material involving them. If I were upset, you would certainly know. Agrivated is more like the right term. I made the assumption because if you had read the material past the first book or watched past the first movie, you would know some of the things I have said and therefore would make statements accordinly. My apologies if you have. Your humerous intentions weren't very clear by any means, and it seemed like you were debating this seriously to be honest. I responded accordingly. Also, Meyer's writing abilities has nothing to do with a debate concerning the character's powers and intelligence in battle, as she is the only writer who has used them and created them. Moreover, they do show competance with their powers, despite popular belief from those who haven't read it or watched/read it already hating the series. The point is, what you were saying was obviously wrong, so I took the liberty to correct it. If you were joking, make it a bit more obvious next time. If you want to debate this further, start a thread for it. |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 20, 2010 16:30:37 GMT -5
Im quite calm, I just get a bit skeptical of people who bash things and characters in debates, when they act as if they haven't read the material involving them. If I were upset, you would certainly know. Agrivated is more like the right term. you seemed overtly angry to me, calling me out on being ignorant and such. My apologies if you have. Your humerous intentions weren't very clear by any means, and it seemed like you were debating this seriously to be honest. I responded accordingly. Twllight vampires have a pile of powers many, many silly contrived and over the top plot devices powers used as wanking by the writer. It should have been obvious to you that when it's me talking here that I wasn't serious. Also, Meyer's writing abilities has nothing to do with a debate concerning the character's powers and intelligence in battle, as she is the only writer who has used them and created them. Moreover, they do show competance with their powers, despite popular belief from those who haven't read it or watched/read it already hating the series. I'd argue that it does, the books are terrible and full of plot holes. Illogical problems that basic intelligence would have easily soved, etc. The "competence" you allude to isn't really good in my opinion. As with the vast powers they do have, I am of the opinion that with half a brain, the plots never would of happened like they did, barring them being morons or at least written as such because the logical plot holes are painfully obvious. But let's leave at that, twillight sucks to much to receive that much energy. The point is, what you were saying was obviously wrong, so I took the liberty to correct it. If you were joking, make it a bit more obvious next time. If you want to debate this further, start a thread for it. I'm not interested, twilight sucks to much to talk about it beyond laughing an scorning it like it deserves. |
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Post by Strafe Prower on Dec 20, 2010 16:37:19 GMT -5
Im quite calm, I just get a bit skeptical of people who bash things and characters in debates, when they act as if they haven't read the material involving them. If I were upset, you would certainly know. Agrivated is more like the right term. you seemed overtly angry to me, calling me out on being ignorant and such. Twllight vampires have a pile of powers many, many silly contrived and over the top plot devices powers used as wanking by the writer. It should have been obvious to you that when it's me talking here that I wasn't serious. I'd argue that it does, the books are terrible and full of plot holes. Illogical problems that basic intelligence would have easily soved, etc. The "competence" you allude to isn't really good in my opinion. As with the vast powers they do have, I am of the opinion that with half a brain, the plots never would of happened like they did, barring them being morons or at least written as such because the logical plot holes are painfully obvious. But let's leave at that, twillight sucks to much to receive that much energy. The point is, what you were saying was obviously wrong, so I took the liberty to correct it. If you were joking, make it a bit more obvious next time. If you want to debate this further, start a thread for it. I'm not interested, twilight sucks to much to talk about it beyond laughing an scorning it like it deserves. I wasn't angry by any means. if I were, my responses would have been much more offensive than they were. I certainly don't know you enough to make that connection, but oh well. -.- I'm not going to respond the the rest, as it is not worth your time. |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 20, 2010 16:44:46 GMT -5
I wasn't angry by any means. if I were, my responses would have been much more offensive than they were. I guess it's because I assume that since we all respect each other here. We'd curb our insults even when angry. I apologize then. I certainly don't know you enough to make that connection, but oh well. I guess you and I haven't talked enough. But let me put it this way, I've read a lot of fantasy, vampire etc. related media. But besides, when I'm ignorant of something I flat out say it and don't argue. I'm not going to respond the the rest, as it is not worth your time. I'm not trying to piss you off. And I'm sorry if it came out wrong. But twilight in my opinion is very much terrible. Now if you want to talk or argue otherwise in a meaningful way then do so. I don't particularly like even talking about it beyond ranting. But I do enjoy conversing with the people here and would certainly take pleasure in trying to understand other people's perspective (even if the material itself I don't enjoy at all). thought I think it would be better in it's own thread then here. |
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Post by Strafe Prower on Dec 20, 2010 23:39:36 GMT -5
I wasn't angry by any means. if I were, my responses would have been much more offensive than they were. I guess it's because I assume that since we all respect each other here. We'd curb our insults even when angry. I apologize then. I guess you and I haven't talked enough. But let me put it this way, I've read a lot of fantasy, vampire etc. related media. But besides, when I'm ignorant of something I flat out say it and don't argue. I'm not going to respond the the rest, as it is not worth your time. I'm not trying to piss you off. And I'm sorry if it came out wrong. But twilight in my opinion is very much terrible. Now if you want to talk or argue otherwise in a meaningful way then do so. I don't particularly like even talking about it beyond ranting. But I do enjoy conversing with the people here and would certainly take pleasure in trying to understand other people's perspective (even if the material itself I don't enjoy at all). thought I think it would be better in it's own thread then here. When I am angry, you have to be very close to me to avoid hurtful things. I can't control what I say past a point  Understood. Nah, I'm not very good at the debating thing anyway. Honestly, It really isn't that great of books, I just fell in love with a couple of characters in it. Therefore, I continued reading. In my opinion, they aren't terrible or even bad, just not spectacular. Ok is probably the right words. |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 20, 2010 23:43:20 GMT -5
alright, then. And again sorry if I said anything that pissed you off, such was not my intention.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Dec 20, 2010 23:46:14 GMT -5
alright, then. And again sorry if I said anything that pissed you off, such was not my intention. It's cool. |
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Post by goku on Dec 23, 2010 20:10:26 GMT -5
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 24, 2010 1:48:54 GMT -5
lol wut?
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Post by Strafe Prower on Dec 24, 2010 3:17:07 GMT -5
Lol!!!
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Dec 26, 2010 20:41:31 GMT -5
lol.
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Post by Power NeXus on Dec 26, 2010 23:01:11 GMT -5
I don't claim to be anything resembling an expert on Twilight. I've never read the books (and never ever will). I saw the first two movies a long time ago just because I felt bad about mocking movies I hadn't seen myself. But, honestly, I don't remember seeing the vampires display any really deadly powers. Edward has telepathy, but it doesn't extend past reading basic surface thoughts. One chick could get vague visions of the future. I think one guy could manipulate moods or something. And then they all had superhuman speed (I don't know the stats on their speed, but it didn't look like anything Blade can't handle) and superhuman strength (the feats I remember don't indicate anything more than around 5 tons). I'm not saying the vampires from that world aren't powerful. They just have no idea how to fight. When I was watching the final fight scene in the first movie, I remember thinking, "WTF. They all fight like dumba$$es. Give me some powers to put me on equal ground with them and I could kick their collective butts all by myself." The characters from the first 2 aren't the most powerful my friend. I'll give you a few examples of why Blade wouldn't survive. Benjamin could control all for of the "elements" (Water, Earth, Air, and Fire) to a massive degree. Jane could cause the the whole nervous system go into severe pain, sending her opponent to the floor. This is just with a thought. Alec could make all he senses go numb, leaving no way for his opponents to defend themselve. Also with a thought. Zafrina could send visions into the head of anyone around her, making them see whatever she liked. With a thought as well. Kate could send electic shocks through her opponent with just a touch, and it happened automatically. She had no control over it. This is just to add to Edwards TP, Alice's Pre-cog, and the many minorly gifted Vampires. I was unaware that some of them had powers at that degree. I have changed my mind about Blade being able to kill them all. |
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Post by Power NeXus on Dec 26, 2010 23:16:37 GMT -5
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Post by Strafe Prower on Dec 26, 2010 23:57:18 GMT -5
The characters from the first 2 aren't the most powerful my friend. I'll give you a few examples of why Blade wouldn't survive. Benjamin could control all for of the "elements" (Water, Earth, Air, and Fire) to a massive degree. Jane could cause the the whole nervous system go into severe pain, sending her opponent to the floor. This is just with a thought. Alec could make all he senses go numb, leaving no way for his opponents to defend themselve. Also with a thought. Zafrina could send visions into the head of anyone around her, making them see whatever she liked. With a thought as well. Kate could send electic shocks through her opponent with just a touch, and it happened automatically. She had no control over it. This is just to add to Edwards TP, Alice's Pre-cog, and the many minorly gifted Vampires. I was unaware that some of them had powers at that degree. I have changed my mind about Blade being able to kill them all. Good to know  BTW LOL @ that pic. To be fair, I hate Bella and Edward. The only one of the "big 3" I like is Jacob. After that, it is just support characters. |
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