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Post by Erik-El on Mar 25, 2011 17:11:20 GMT -5
I didn't read the latest Wolverine, so no clue what you guys are talking about, lol. Wolverine was in hell and whupped the Devil's ass with no adamantium (because that is not part of who he is). The Devil was armed with a sword that cuts the soul and the wounds never heal. Sabretooth was the Devil's personal bitch.
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Post by Morpheus on Mar 25, 2011 17:12:39 GMT -5
And Wolverine cut Sabretooth to pieces with the afore mentioned sword.
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 25, 2011 17:13:43 GMT -5
Exactly why I propose he goes after a young mutant. Also, we don't know how strong his influence would be on a better mind. It might be something where Cyber can take control every now and then. Regardless, his mental power should be enough to take over someone young enough, IMHO. As for them returning...Let's just say Wolverine is obviously going to escape hell...And I'd imagine the demon/devil wouldn't be all that thrilled about being thwarted like that...So how about sending his three most dangerous foes back to hunt him down and send him back to hell? ...or something like that. lol Nice idea for the big three's return. But the taking over bodies thing. I think he chose a mentally handicapped person because that was probably his limits. He never displayed significant psychic abilities in the past. Besides, if his powers allowed him to overtake anyone or even a child mutant, why stop at a kid who is just really strong? Why not take Surge or Hellion or hell, even take X-23?
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2011 17:15:12 GMT -5
I knew Sabretooth's status, I just didn't know he was recently cut apart, too. That's fucking lame. And Wolverine beat the goddamn devil in his own world? Fuck that shit x5.
Seriously, one massive fuck you to that story. Not only did it apparently kill off Creed for good now, but it also killed Harada for no fucking reason. Silver Samurai: Where am I? Oh, hey, Wolverine. You're killing people. Wolverine: Whaaaa? Devil: Lolz *chops off Silver Samurai's head* Silver Samurai: WTFS! *Devil squishes his body* Devil: LMFAO!
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 25, 2011 17:16:37 GMT -5
I knew Sabretooth's status, I just didn't know he was recently cut apart, too. That's fucking lame. And Wolverine beat the goddamn devil in his own world? Fuck that shit x5. Seriously, one massive fuck you to that story. Not only did it apparently kill off Creed for good now, but it also killed Harada for no fucking reason. Silver Samurai: Where am I? Oh, hey, Wolverine. You're killing people. Wolverine: Whaaaa? Devil: Lolz *chops off Silver Samurai's head* Silver Samurai: WTFS! *Devil squishes his body* Devil: LMFAO! But it is hell so being chopped up should not matter. He will just be floating pieces or whatever.
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2011 17:18:34 GMT -5
He could recognize brain activity. That's how he was able to realize Wolverine was around, smash through a wall with only his hand, grabbing him by the throat. I'd dispute that his power isn't weak, but we haven't even seen it's true potential if he's pulling off that "i'm steal yo' body!" stuff.
"Besides, if his powers allowed him to overtake anyone or even a child mutant, why stop at a kid who is just really strong? Why not take Surge or Hellion or hell, even take X-23?"
As far as we know, this was his first time doing this. Also, at the time it seemed like a fair replacement considering the physicality. Shame he couldn't read the heart...lol
I think in the right hands we could have a good plot revolving around his potential or search for a new host.
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2011 17:20:12 GMT -5
I knew Sabretooth's status, I just didn't know he was recently cut apart, too. That's fucking lame. And Wolverine beat the goddamn devil in his own world? Fuck that shit x5. Seriously, one massive fuck you to that story. Not only did it apparently kill off Creed for good now, but it also killed Harada for no fucking reason. Silver Samurai: Where am I? Oh, hey, Wolverine. You're killing people. Wolverine: Whaaaa? Devil: Lolz *chops off Silver Samurai's head* Silver Samurai: WTFS! *Devil squishes his body* Devil: LMFAO! But it is hell so being chopped up should not matter. He will just be floating pieces or whatever. I'd say destroying the soul matters, which is what you guys said it does?
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 25, 2011 17:26:06 GMT -5
But it is hell so being chopped up should not matter. He will just be floating pieces or whatever. I'd say destroying the soul matters, which is what you guys said it does? Pretty much yeah. But then again, the Devil could have been exaggerating the effects of the sword in a failed attempt to cause Wolverine fear. After all, he did cut Wolverine's ear off and it grew back by the end of the issue.
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 25, 2011 17:27:21 GMT -5
He could recognize brain activity. That's how he was able to realize Wolverine was around, smash through a wall with only his hand, grabbing him by the throat. I'd dispute that his power isn't weak, but we haven't even seen it's true potential if he's pulling off that "i'm steal yo' body!" stuff. "Besides, if his powers allowed him to overtake anyone or even a child mutant, why stop at a kid who is just really strong? Why not take Surge or Hellion or hell, even take X-23?" As far as we know, this was his first time doing this. Also, at the time it seemed like a fair replacement considering the physicality. Shame he couldn't read the heart...lol I think in the right hands we could have a good plot revolving around his potential or search for a new host. Oh I knew he had low level psychic abilities. But I said significant psychic abilities and body snatching falls under that category when you can do it do anyone smarter than a puppy.
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2011 17:28:23 GMT -5
Like I said, I don't think we really know his limitations.
Morph, any chance you can make scans of the whole scene when he takes the body? It's been awhile for me, and I don't remember specific remarks he made when doing so.
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 25, 2011 17:37:02 GMT -5
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 25, 2011 17:40:28 GMT -5
So here Cyber even admits that he needs someone with a "vacant" mind.
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2011 17:40:52 GMT -5
Thanks. Suitable vacant host certainly implies he needed an individual with a weak mind, but this also makes it clear this is the first time he's done the task. I think there's potential for this ability to generate a new story as he either: A) Takes over a better host for good. B) Takes over a more interesting character and there's an internal struggle for some time. But then that's too similar to the whole "oh noes! I'm a horseman of Apoc!" thing. Damn it.
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2011 17:45:01 GMT -5
But like I said, I prefer the concept of the Devil being pissed at Wolverine, resurrecting the trio to hunt him down, and offering some sort of reward for the one who does.
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2011 17:45:28 GMT -5
Then again, I didn't read the latest Wolverine so I don't know what the status of the devil is
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 25, 2011 18:09:38 GMT -5
Then again, I didn't read the latest Wolverine so I don't know what the status of the devil is Wolverine literally crucified him (still alive) and the Devil's minion fought for possession of the sword to become the new Devil.
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2011 18:11:01 GMT -5
....................*sigh* All these fucking ridiculous stories...And the best part? They just go ahead and kill off his biggest villains
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 25, 2011 18:24:03 GMT -5
....................*sigh* All these fucking ridiculous stories...And the best part? They just go ahead and kill off his biggest villains Not true sir! Wolverine's biggest villain ever cough-Romulus-cough is still alive.
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Post by Erik-El on Mar 25, 2011 18:24:40 GMT -5
Besides, now he has an even bigger villain in the Devil. Not a single baddie worse that that in my opinion.
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Post by Admin on Mar 25, 2011 18:27:13 GMT -5
Yes, because the flarking devil is a plausible on-going villain. I'll take any of that trio in a good story over the Devil any day of the week
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