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Post by creator on Apr 11, 2012 6:36:08 GMT -5
Seems fair but Wonder Man's hit might not have been effective at all if the mask could absorb blunt force. What leads me to this conclusion is that Wonder Man is experienced in hitting hard enough to only stun a normal human. If Wonder Man had given that strike any noteworthy measure of his power, Splice's head would have just become red mist. So if Wonder Man held back the blow to only stun a normal human (since he lacks any knowledge that Splice could survive more power than that) and Splice's mask is protected against such force and greater, the strike would not have even phased him... assuming the mask is equal in durability to the rest of the armor. I agree.
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Post by Beatboks on Apr 14, 2012 6:53:57 GMT -5
I haven't forgotten this. But with my daughter on school hols the last two weeks haven't had a lot of time to look for scans. I'll be back
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 16, 2012 17:30:59 GMT -5
I am curious where Invincible would rank. He has taken a nuke explosion recently at ground zero but I do not remember if the megaton was mentioned or not. It was big enough to turn all of Las Vegas into a glass desert though if that helps.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 16, 2012 17:31:34 GMT -5
And the only thing that really happened to him was that he got a little dusty.
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Post by creator on Apr 17, 2012 6:50:27 GMT -5
I am curious where Invincible would rank. He has taken a nuke explosion recently at ground zero but I do not remember if the megaton was mentioned or not. It was big enough to turn all of Las Vegas into a glass desert though if that helps. I think that that explosion was based on multiple small devices scattered around the city. In which case I would suggest that the explosion he was nearest to and expienced originated as approx a 50 - 100kt device. As he was not holding the device (please tell me if I am wrong here) and was some distance from the explosion (again tell me if I am wrong), I would suggest that this drops him a few ranks as the energy of the blast dissipates somewhat. So I would rank him around Rank 21. As he also flew through the Viltrumite planet core as well (and basing this on being similar to earth size), that would be a rank 20 feat. So I feel confident saying his kinetic durability is Rank 20 - 21 for blunt attacks. I am not sure how his durability to piercing attacks stacks with this.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 17, 2012 13:03:40 GMT -5
You are right. He had multiple bombs; more than 50. But the combined explosion obviously was very powerful. The explosions were larger than mountains and Vegas skyscrapers looked miniscule next to the explosions shown here: Now I do not know if the size of an explosion is necessarily a gauge for how powerful it is, I do think the ability to turn an entire city into nothing but glass (something a nuke cannot even accomplish) does say something. I originally thought of the planet busting event but I decided not to go with it because he had help from his more powerful father and more powerful friend, plus the energy projectile that can go through virtually anything helping all three of them out.
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Post by creator on Apr 17, 2012 14:50:32 GMT -5
The nature of the blast might suggest more energy (heat) effects to atomise the buildings etc. as there is no mushroom cloud it suggests something else other than a nuke. There is also no massive blast wave shown. However I'll stick with the rank 20 / 21 level. Can you tell e more about the energy effect that helped Invicible go through the planet ?
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 17, 2012 16:04:38 GMT -5
It was a "laser" fired from a space rifle. It creates a hole about the size of a fist and goes through virtually anything and keeps going in its given direction forever and ever. So the idea was that the laser would create the hole and the three heroes would follow it through to create some kind of effect that would cause the planet to burst.
Neither the energy projectile nor the three could have done it on their own. That was why they sought out the rifle before ever going after the planet. They said either one alone would just cause a hole in the planet.
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Post by creator on Apr 17, 2012 16:44:04 GMT -5
It was a "laser" fired from a space rifle. It creates a hole about the size of a fist and goes through virtually anything and keeps going in its given direction forever and ever. So the idea was that the laser would create the hole and the three heroes would follow it through to create some kind of effect that would cause the planet to burst. Neither the energy projectile nor the three could have done it on their own. That was why they sought out the rifle before ever going after the planet. They said either one alone would just cause a hole in the planet. Interesting. Well he in theory still experienced the pressure at the centre of the planet.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 17, 2012 18:12:03 GMT -5
True.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 20, 2012 16:19:00 GMT -5
Wolverine should be pretty high up there. His flesh is basically human level durability but that adamantium skeleton has survived just about everything. I understand that recently, he had his legs broken though but I have no context for that since I refuse to read the clown-car comic series that is Wolverine and the X-Men.
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Post by creator on Apr 20, 2012 16:39:24 GMT -5
Other than Wolverine, what other characters should we rank ?
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 21, 2012 3:51:23 GMT -5
Well we have Wolverine and Wonder Woman figured out pretty well. Those are my top two favs.
Ms. Marvel has some pretty solid kinetic durability feats. She was taking hits from Hulk level characters despite being considerably weaker as far as strength goes. My assumption has always been that her durability was much higher than her strength would normally imply (as characters with strength generally have matching durability).
Spider-Man has about a 20 ton durability range cap in my opinion. Also, he was recently dipped in acid that almost immediately dissolved a human and it did not do much more than give him minor chemical burns IIRC despite his prolonged submersion.
Luke Cage has 20 ton-ish durability in all things aside from his skin... Except when he greatly exceeds that durability lol. But such times are few and I contribute them to writer error.
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Post by creator on Apr 21, 2012 10:23:39 GMT -5
Well we have Wolverine and Wonder Woman figured out pretty well. Those are my top two favs. Ms. Marvel has some pretty solid kinetic durability feats. She was taking hits from Hulk level characters despite being considerably weaker as far as strength goes. My assumption has always been that her durability was much higher than her strength would normally imply (as characters with strength generally have matching durability). Spider-Man has about a 20 ton durability range cap in my opinion. Also, he was recently dipped in acid that almost immediately dissolved a human and it did not do much more than give him minor chemical burns IIRC despite his prolonged submersion. Luke Cage has 20 ton-ish durability in all things aside from his skin... Except when he greatly exceeds that durability lol. But such times are few and I contribute them to writer error. Let's state some figures for them. Tell me your thoughts. If you have any scans, put them in. Wolverine I see have good blunt durability thanks to his adamantium skeleton and his healing factor. However his ability to resist penetrating attacks is fairly low, mabe even rank 1. Wonder Woman has immense blunt resistance but relatively low penetration resistance. However she can have immense penetration resistance thanks to her bracelets. So she ay need 3 ranks.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 21, 2012 14:18:54 GMT -5
If we consider her bracelets, she is damn near completely invulnerable. Nothing has shown the ability to withstand her bracelets as a shield or as a weapon.
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Post by creator on May 22, 2012 14:57:50 GMT -5
Apologies for not posting for a hole but my wedding actions have stepped with only 6 weeks to go to D Day and my visa emigration to the US has also stepped in to high gear......death by paperwork....... So at some point I will get back on track with the grid. Hold tight till then.
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Post by Erik-El on May 24, 2012 10:48:46 GMT -5
Will do Creator and good luck!
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Post by Beatboks on Sept 17, 2012 9:38:59 GMT -5
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Post by Strafe Prower on Sept 27, 2012 6:45:43 GMT -5
I'll post some feats for Geo-Force, Black Lightning, and Hawkeye a bit later.
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Post by creator on Sept 27, 2012 22:32:50 GMT -5
I'll review this weekend.
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