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Post by creator on Sept 29, 2011 6:58:57 GMT -5
I'd agree that's why I suggested he would be an exception like Circe (26 IIRC) . Not as sure about Ares 24/5 sounds about right. Most of the others however would be 23/4 easily. I can't think of too many stand out feats for any. The fact that they all draw power through the worship of many (even if that many isn't the number it used to be ) would make them IMO at least 22 to 24 no lower in source. I'm just not sure how to rate any as I've not been too up on the WW mythos for decades, so I know no canon feats to judged by. The last feats I saw of the Greek Pantheon were against the Titans of old (Cronus etc - he would also be 25/6) in Then new Titans and Pan etc in Millenium, and war of the God's (as I cited for my ranking of Circe). I've been doing some hunting around and reviewing of scans, and feats. Ares only has a few high energy projection / manipulation fetas that I have found. I'll try and score him later but I agree his overall should be around 24. Zeus, who also has few feats, has been shown to be more powerful than Ares so i would put him at 25 / 26 (again score him later). Highfather has a tight focus on his energy source - literally being the source. Some of his feats certainly range in to the 26 / maybe 27 region. Darkseid similar. If you have chance bounce me a pm on them and lets discuss.
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Post by creator on Sept 29, 2011 18:07:59 GMT -5
After discussion with Beatboks here are a few more,
Dragon of the Moon Energy Source 26 Adeptness 25 Power Simulation 27 Overall 27
Diablo Energy Source 11 (objects) Adeptness 14 Power Simulation 10 Overall 12
Dakihm the Enchanter Energy Source 22 Adeptness 23 Power Simulation 23 Overall 23
Set Energy Source 28 Adeptness 26 Power Simulation 28 Overall 28
Zatanna Energy Source 20 Adeptness 22 Power Simulation 22 Overall 22
Scarlet Witch (house of M) Energy Source 28 Adeptness 20 Power Simulation 28 Overall 26
Selene Energy Source 14 Adeptness 15 Power Simulation 13 Overall 14
Neron Energy Source 26 Adeptness 27 Power Simulation 27 Overall 27
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Post by creator on Sept 30, 2011 6:26:58 GMT -5
Crom,
I have run these through with Beatboks already but I would appreciate your thoughts.
Zeus (DC) Energy Source 24 Adeptness 24 Power Simulation 26 Overall 25
Ares (DC) Energy Source 24 Adeptness 22 Power Simulation 24 Overall 24
Highfather Energy Source 26 Adeptness 23 Power Simulation 26 Overall 26
Darkseid Energy Source 27 Adeptness 26 Power Simulation 27 Overall 27
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Sept 30, 2011 19:18:56 GMT -5
Looks good to me
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Oct 3, 2011 13:40:34 GMT -5
Ok. Good enough for me. In that case can I suggest we look at relevant feats for Darkseid, Highfather, Ares (DC) and Zeus (DC) to understand where they sit. Creator I've been out of town since Thursday so I just got your pm now. I'll see and gather up some mystical feats of them.
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Post by creator on Oct 3, 2011 16:18:45 GMT -5
Ok. Good enough for me. In that case can I suggest we look at relevant feats for Darkseid, Highfather, Ares (DC) and Zeus (DC) to understand where they sit. Creator I've been out of town since Thursday so I just got your pm now. I'll see and gather up some mystical feats of them. Thanks Phantom.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Oct 3, 2011 16:26:07 GMT -5
Truth be told, I'm not sure what to do about Darkseid because It's a bit hard to see where his mystical power ends and general cosmic power begins. The only explicitly mystical feat I can think of off the top of my head is empowering Mary Marvel.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Oct 3, 2011 16:31:00 GMT -5
Truth be told, I'm not sure what to do about Darkseid because It's a bit hard to see where his mystical power ends and general cosmic power begins. The only explicitly mystical feat I can think of off the top of my head is empowering Mary Marvel. Personally, I'm of the opinion that in DC, cosmic/magical power is alot more of an aesthetical division then anything else.
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Post by creator on Oct 3, 2011 18:02:09 GMT -5
Truth be told, I'm not sure what to do about Darkseid because It's a bit hard to see where his mystical power ends and general cosmic power begins. The only explicitly mystical feat I can think of off the top of my head is empowering Mary Marvel. Remind me, was the only being empowering her or did he just add additional power ? Anyhow, any values you could suggest for the DC gods would be helpful.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Oct 3, 2011 18:19:34 GMT -5
He was the only one empowering her IIRC.
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Post by creator on Oct 4, 2011 6:10:24 GMT -5
He was the only one empowering her IIRC. And was she shown to be as powerful as Capt Marvel was ?
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Oct 4, 2011 6:26:18 GMT -5
Hard to say. When he gave her her powers back in Countdown she had no problem beating Kyle Rayner and Donna Troy, but nothing more than that. In Final Crisis she beat the crap out of Black Adam, but at the same time Adam noted how the gods powering him were weakened by Darkseid's arrival and thus he was weaker as well. Which in itself should show that Darkseid is more powerful than the gods powering the Marvels, right?
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Post by creator on Oct 4, 2011 16:18:42 GMT -5
Hard to say. When he gave her her powers back in Countdown she had no problem beating Kyle Rayner and Donna Troy, but nothing more than that. In Final Crisis she beat the crap out of Black Adam, but at the same time Adam noted how the gods powering him were weakened by Darkseid's arrival and thus he was weaker as well. Which in itself should show that Darkseid is more powerful than the gods powering the Marvels, right? The last bit is a little A vs B gives C logic but it seems reasonable. Thanks.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Oct 4, 2011 20:20:43 GMT -5
that Darkseid is more powerful than the gods powering the Marvels, right? Darkseid is more powerful then the gods empowering the marvels. That has been shown in other arcs.
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Post by Beatboks on Nov 10, 2014 8:20:14 GMT -5
Does anything look like it needs review for the Nu52. Thinking specifically of Constantine here
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Post by creator on Nov 30, 2014 10:34:24 GMT -5
Does anything look like it needs review for the Nu52. Thinking specifically of Constantine here Well we could rate all the new 52 characters if you would like
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