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Post by InnerVenom123 on Mar 4, 2011 10:28:41 GMT -5
Key word: competent. Gargan is not. Which is why I put the second sentence there about Brubaker giving credit to Venom where others wouldn't. I am all for Gargan being totally incompetent as Venom (or in general, really), but there are some fights he just can't lose. Even with Buck's electric discharges, him beating Gargan/Venom for the majority is far-fetched.Yap dog. To. The eye. Gargan's failings were often far-fetched ;D Doesn't care about Gargan's failings anymore due to awesome new Venom
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Post by Morpheus on Mar 4, 2011 10:31:00 GMT -5
I tend to think we should be objective, both to the bad writing in his favour (vs Colossus), and the bad writing against him (say, vs Swordman). He was nowhere near Eddie's level, and a bad choice for Venom, but there are still characters he could beat.
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Mar 4, 2011 10:33:15 GMT -5
Gargan as Venom was actually kinda cool on paper. He already hated Jonah as much as Eddie hated Peter, it could have been done very well, as a matter of fact. There could have been some deep development in how he would plan his movies - "Who first? Spider-man or JAMESON!?", ETC. But instead we got the hooker-tossin-human-eatin-failurific-sack-a-shit Venom.
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Post by Morpheus on Mar 4, 2011 10:39:27 GMT -5
I was referring to him being a bad choice, in retrospect. I didn't have a problem with him being Venom, initially. Even though, in a single introductory arc, he managed to do something Brock never had in nearly two decades: lose to Spider-Man in a straight fight.
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Mar 4, 2011 10:41:04 GMT -5
I was referring to him being a bad choice, in retrospect. I didn't have a problem with him being Venom, initially. Even though, in a single introductory arc, he managed to do something Brock never had in nearly two decades: lose to Spider-Man in a straight fight. Exactly. That was more a "crushed by a brick wall because Mark Millar has no idea how durable Venom is supposed to be/doesn't care" block than stumbling block.
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Post by Morpheus on Mar 4, 2011 10:45:16 GMT -5
I think he actually brought down the entire building, not just a wall.
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Mar 4, 2011 10:50:05 GMT -5
I think he actually brought down the entire building, not just a wall. I always forget.
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Post by mavfan626 on Mar 7, 2011 0:03:07 GMT -5
ckal wrote: "Venom's ability to block the Spider-Sense"
Has this still an ongoing ability for Venom?
thought i'd just this a bump..
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Mar 7, 2011 1:25:37 GMT -5
ckal wrote: "Venom's ability to block the Spider-Sense" Has this still an ongoing ability for Venom? thought i'd just this a bump.. Yes. Venom has always been able to block Spider-man's spider sense.
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Post by Power NeXus on Mar 7, 2011 1:31:04 GMT -5
I, for one, am just going to forget Gargan was ever Venom at all. His lameness is overshadowed by the combined awesomeness of Brock and Flash.
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Mar 7, 2011 1:37:20 GMT -5
I, for one, am just going to forget Gargan was ever Venom at all. His lameness is overshadowed by the combined awesomeness of Brock and Flash. Oddly enough, I made that same resolution earlier today with some friends on facebook. ;D Hooray for ignoring the idiot of the bunch!
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Mar 7, 2011 17:23:15 GMT -5
Just throwing this out there, Toxin teaming up with Anti-Venom would be a great story if done right. Anti would instantly judge Toxin for keeping the symbiote, but be hesitant to cure him since he was a cop before he even got the thing (Eddie might think he has some higher moral ground), but at the same time he'd want to, because Pat is living in what used to be Eddie's world, minus the killing; I think it'd be cool to see Anti not trust Pat's no-killing rule with some logic that the symbiote will eventually make Pat into a monster like the rest of them and like what Eddie used to be. Thoughts?
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Mar 10, 2011 0:16:14 GMT -5
So, who's read Venom 1?! ;D
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Post by NorCalCO on Mar 10, 2011 0:57:14 GMT -5
So, who's read Venom 1?! ;D *raises hand Good read, I'll be sticking with it for a little while at least. I think Remender has been doing a great job with Uncanny X-Force so I'm looking forward to seeing what he does here. Thanks again for the friendly "peer-pressure" to pick this up. lol
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Mar 10, 2011 10:51:17 GMT -5
So, who's read Venom 1?! ;D *raises hand Good read, I'll be sticking with it for a little while at least. I think Remender has been doing a great job with Uncanny X-Force so I'm looking forward to seeing what he does here. Thanks again for the friendly "peer-pressure" to pick this up. lol Yay now I won't devour your soul! ;D
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Post by NorCalCO on Mar 10, 2011 11:06:32 GMT -5
Much appreciated! LOL!
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Post by Admin on Mar 10, 2011 11:13:35 GMT -5
lol
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Post by Morpheus on Mar 10, 2011 11:16:00 GMT -5
It's funny how Flash has been more imaginative in the use of the symbiote in two issues than Gargan had over 8 years.
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Post by Admin on Mar 10, 2011 11:17:20 GMT -5
So, the people shooting at the UN armored guys had the new special rounds, but of course the ones shooting at Venom didn't
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Post by Morpheus on Mar 10, 2011 11:20:27 GMT -5
So, the people shooting at the UN armored guys had the new special rounds, but of course the ones shooting at Venom didn't No difference. Venom isn't composed of metal so antarctic vibranium bullets wouldn't have done anything to him.
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