Speed Demon vs Beast

[Strafe Prower]

www.comicvine.com/speed-demon/29-2128/
www.comicvine.com/beast/29-1462/

-Current versions of both characters
-Win by all standard methods, except BFR
-Setting is a secret base ran by Speed Demon
-Beast gets 1 hour prep time with basic info on SD
-Character Morals Apply
-They start 50 ft. apart
-Use logic and reasoning when answering
-This is subject to change for fairness sake

[spidey_17]

I could make a case for Beast. I recall spiderman stating that if he wanted he could react to an attack from speed demon, in Amazing Spider-man #280. If we assume that Beast has reaction time close to Pete, then i wouldn't be surprise if he get the chance to dodge Speed Demon. But even if he can not, he can still roll with the hits, so the damage will be less.
And with his prep and Basic infor on SD, then his chances will be increased even more. I don't know how durable SD is, but i think that Beast can one shot him if he want.
This is a good fight and SD will give to beast a hell of a battle, but i think Beast might win in the end.
=]

[Strafe Prower]

Nice spidey

[spidey_17]

Thanks! ;D

[Decoy Elite]

Oct 23, 2010 1:16:24 GMT -5 spidey_17 said:

I could make a case for Beast. I recall spiderman stating that if he wanted he could react to an attack from speed demon, in Amazing Spider-man #280. If we assume that Beast has reaction time close to Pete, then i wouldn't be surprise if he get the chance to dodge Speed Demon. But even if he can not, he can still roll with the hits, so the damage will be less.
And with his prep and Basic infor on SD, then his chances will be increased even more. I don't know how durable SD is, but i think that Beast can one shot him if he want.
This is a good fight and SD will give to beast a hell of a battle, but i think Beast might win in the end.
=]

The only issue I have with this is, didn't Spidey use his Spider sense?
Beast doesn't have an early warning system to help him out, so it's fully possible that he might not be able to react quick enough.

[spidey_17]

Oct 23, 2010 1:33:43 GMT -5 Decoy Elite said:

Oct 23, 2010 1:16:24 GMT -5 spidey_17 said:

I could make a case for Beast. I recall spiderman stating that if he wanted he could react to an attack from speed demon, in Amazing Spider-man #280. If we assume that Beast has reaction time close to Pete, then i wouldn't be surprise if he get the chance to dodge Speed Demon. But even if he can not, he can still roll with the hits, so the damage will be less.
And with his prep and Basic infor on SD, then his chances will be increased even more. I don't know how durable SD is, but i think that Beast can one shot him if he want.
This is a good fight and SD will give to beast a hell of a battle, but i think Beast might win in the end.
=]

The only issue I have with this is, didn't Spidey use his Spider sense?
Beast doesn't have an early warning system to help him out, so it's fully possible that he might not be able to react quick enough.

Actually i don't think that Beast need a danger sense in order to accomplish what spider-man stated that he could do. Before spider-man KOed Speed Demon, he used his jumping ability and acrobatics in order to stay out of his reach. And he didn't really need his spider-sense in order to do it. He was just looking at speed demon. Something that beast can do as well. So, if Beast use his jumping ability and acrobatics, he could stay out of SD's reach. But even if he can not dodge, he is durable enough to take many hits from SD IMO until he manage to land his own hit.

[Decoy Elite]

Oct 23, 2010 1:44:10 GMT -5 spidey_17 said:

Oct 23, 2010 1:33:43 GMT -5 Decoy Elite said:

The only issue I have with this is, didn't Spidey use his Spider sense?
Beast doesn't have an early warning system to help him out, so it's fully possible that he might not be able to react quick enough.

Actually i don't think that Beast need a danger sense in order to accomplish what spider-man stated that he could do. Before spider-man KOed Speed Demon, he used his jumping ability and acrobatics in order to stay out of his reach. And he didn't really need his spider-sense in order to do it. He was just looking at speed demon. Something that beast can do as well. So, if Beast use his jumping ability and acrobatics, he could stay out of SD's reach. But even if he can not dodge, he is durable enough to take many hits from SD IMO until he manage to land his own hit.

I agree that Beast can win this one, but I think it'll be pretty tough. While Beast can tank some hits, it'll still be hard to tag SD. Luckily SD is one of the weaker speedster out their so it shouldn't take too much to bring him down.

[spidey_17]

Oct 23, 2010 1:46:20 GMT -5 Decoy Elite said:

Oct 23, 2010 1:44:10 GMT -5 spidey_17 said:

Actually i don't think that Beast need a danger sense in order to accomplish what spider-man stated that he could do. Before spider-man KOed Speed Demon, he used his jumping ability and acrobatics in order to stay out of his reach. And he didn't really need his spider-sense in order to do it. He was just looking at speed demon. Something that beast can do as well. So, if Beast use his jumping ability and acrobatics, he could stay out of SD's reach. But even if he can not dodge, he is durable enough to take many hits from SD IMO until he manage to land his own hit.

I agree that Beast can win this one, but I think it'll be pretty tough. While Beast can tank some hits, it'll still be hard to tag SD. Luckily SD is one of the weaker speedster out their so it shouldn't take too much to bring him down.

Of course it will be a tough fight as i have stated in my very first post. But as you said, SD is one of the weakest speedsters and Beast can one shot him just like spidey did(i think).
And, indeed, trying to tag a speedster it will be very hard, but i think Beast's speed and prep might help him to accomplish it.

[Morpheus]

Beast. Speed Demon is so incompetent, it hurts. The fact that he tops at Mach 1 (and possibly lower) means he's no faster than a bullet, anyway. Dr. McCoy dodges bullets with ease.

[Silver]

Oct 23, 2010 5:53:02 GMT -5 Morpheus said:

Beast. Speed Demon is so incompetent, it hurts. The fact that he tops at Mach 1 (and possibly lower) means he's no faster than a bullet, anyway. Dr. McCoy dodges bullets with ease.

Sad truth.

[spidey_17]

Oct 23, 2010 5:53:02 GMT -5 Morpheus said:

Beast. Speed Demon is so incompetent, it hurts. The fact that he tops at Mach 1 (and possibly lower) means he's no faster than a bullet, anyway. Dr. McCoy dodges bullets with ease.

Is he really that slow?
Damn, that means that even daredevil has the potential to react to him...lol

[Morpheus]

Oct 23, 2010 6:11:27 GMT -5 spidey_17 said:

Oct 23, 2010 5:53:02 GMT -5 Morpheus said:

Beast. Speed Demon is so incompetent, it hurts. The fact that he tops at Mach 1 (and possibly lower) means he's no faster than a bullet, anyway. Dr. McCoy dodges bullets with ease.

Is he really that slow?
Damn, that means that even daredevil has the potential to react to him...lol

He should.

[Killshot Caine]

Speed Demon.SLAUGHTERHOUSE.He may not be faster than a bullet moving forward but unlike a bullet he can move in all directions.Wolverine was unable to tag Speed Demon without soaking up an ass whoopin first.Had Speed Demon actually been able to KO him he would have won.Beast is fast enough to react to Speed Demon in the event that he tries to blitz him but like most speedsters he does everything with speed and since he's way faster than Beast..He would have to end it early to keep Speed Demon from pummeling and unlike Wolverine, Beast can't soak up that many hits.

[Matezoide]

Speed Demon wins without problems

the reason Spider-Man can fight him,is because of his spider-sense and he is faster than Beast by a good margin and his reflexes are even better

addtionaly,didnt Speed Demon got an upgrade on Thunderbolts? Spider-Man stated he was faster than ever and stated he was running so fast,the friction was turning sand into glass
he also speedblizted Joystick (although she let him),The Wrecker (Mach-IV and Wrecker didnt even see him),ran around Manhantan with Blizard,used his speed to climb on Blizard's ice and KO'ed him effortless,speed-blitzed Batroc with easy and defeated Sea Leopard before he could even realise what happened
he is also capable of running vertically (as seen when he climbed on Blizard's ice or when he climbed a bulding to reach a HYDRA planer)
I do not remember how he is currently,but basing on his feats during Thunderbolts,he should speedblitz Hank with easy

[Power NeXus]

Given the few showings I have read with him, Speed Demon has never seemed to be as impressive as any of the other major Marvel speedsters (Whizzer, Quicksilver, Northstar, ect). I think that, if he uses his prep wisely and sets up a good plan, Beast could take a small majority here.

[Power NeXus]

Oct 23, 2010 11:12:18 GMT -5 Matezoide said:

Speed Demon wins without problems

the reason Spider-Man can fight him,is because of his spider-sense and he is faster than Beast by a good margin and his reflexes are even better

addtionaly,didnt Speed Demon got an upgrade on Thunderbolts? Spider-Man stated he was faster than ever and stated he was running so fast,the friction was turning sand into glass
he also speedblizted Joystick (although she let him),The Wrecker (Mach-IV and Wrecker didnt even see him),ran around Manhantan with Blizard,used his speed to climb on Blizard's ice and KO'ed him effortless,speed-blitzed Batroc with easy and defeated Sea Leopard before he could even realise what happened
he is also capable of running vertically (as seen when he climbed on Blizard's ice or when he climbed a bulding to reach a HYDRA planer)
I do not remember how he is currently,but basing on his feats during Thunderbolts,he should speedblitz Hank with easy

I remember hearing about him getting an upgrade, but I don't know how significant it was. The whole "turning sand into glass" thing could have been hyperbole.
Joystick also speedblitzed SD at a later time, and even danced circles around him in a fight, saying she was faster than he ever was.
The feats of blitzing MACH-IV, Wrecker, Blizzard, and Batroc aren't altogether impressive, since none of them have superhuman reaction time. Wrecker and Blizzard are also kinda dumba$$es.
Running vertically isn't impressive at all. Quicksilver was shown doing the same thing in his very earliest showings (back when his top speed was listed to be like 175 mph).

[Killshot Caine]

Oct 23, 2010 12:50:32 GMT -5 Power NeXus said:

Given the few showings I have read with him, Speed Demon has never seemed to be as impressive as any of the other major Marvel speedsters (Whizzer, Quicksilver, Northstar, ect). I think that, if he uses his prep wisely and sets up a good plan, Beast could take a small majority here.

Aside from Northstar...none of those characters are really impressive.They are however mostly downplayed in stories so that they are actually beatable.Beast isn't a strategist.He's smart but it should be a few high speed hits before he's unconscious.Beast would have to devise a plan of taking Speed Demon down very quickly and I don't think he can.Based on his powers alone he should be able to beat Beast.The power behind his punches because of his speed and the amount of times he will hit Beast in comparison to how many times he will get hit should be enough for him to win.

[Strafe Prower]

Looks like I made a good one

[lagoon_boy]

Beast.