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Post by jakefury on Feb 9, 2011 22:32:16 GMT -5
They look like Storm Troopers.
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 9, 2011 22:36:02 GMT -5
I thought Steve Roger's death was permanent as well as Wasp's. really  And here I thought you had grown up. Pow! |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 9, 2011 22:47:49 GMT -5
It seems I have overestimated this small mortal ;D |
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 9, 2011 22:49:33 GMT -5
Lol I am getting my ass kicked today.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 9, 2011 22:52:34 GMT -5
You deserve it, you're one of the few people supposed to be better then childish optimism.
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 9, 2011 23:03:35 GMT -5
Lol I was actually a tad upset at Rogers' resurrection, even though I am a Rogers fan.
Wasp... I was more than a little pissed. She finally did something that left an impact other than being the girl that Hank back-handed that one time. They finally do something that matters with her and decide to chuck it out the window and bring her back. For what? So she can continue being a nobody other than that girl that Hank back-handed that one time?
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 9, 2011 23:07:39 GMT -5
Dude, that's how marvel works. Any relevance is always erased.
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 9, 2011 23:09:59 GMT -5
It is why the Ultimate universe is growing on me. No one comes back to life. Wolverine? Dead. Magneto? Dead. Nearly everyone in Ultimatum? Still dead.
If they want someone to come back like Wasp, they have someone else throw the costume on.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 9, 2011 23:11:22 GMT -5
Which is how it should be. Even if I've given up on Ultimate Marvel, props for actually having plot progression.
This is kind of thing just one reason why Top Cow rocks.
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 9, 2011 23:15:26 GMT -5
The only one who has come back so far is Ultimate Thor. I did forget about him but he is magical so eh.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 9, 2011 23:17:32 GMT -5
The only one who has come back so far is Ultimate Thor. I did forget about him but he is magical so eh. Don't get me wrong, not all resurrections are automatically bad. What I mean is 99% of them are because they cheapen the value of death as well as ruining good stories. In the 1% where resurrection actually makes sense and is well done. It can be good. Sonatine in witchblade is a good example. |
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Post by ckal on Feb 9, 2011 23:22:52 GMT -5
I too wish most characters who die would stay dead, and I mostly agree for the reasons you've already stated. We all know it is going to happen at some point, so we really just don't care anymore. Sometimes it seems that all it is, is a ploy to increase sales.
+1 for marketing professionals
-1 for us readers
It is not always like that, but sometimes it seems that way. For example: Ultimate Spider-Man.
Btw, the 'Dead Avengers' from Chaos War all came back to life right? Does that include Mar-vell? Idk, I didn't read that tie in. Great example of bringing characters back for no reason, though. I'm sure they will be barely used, if it all going forward too.
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Post by ckal on Feb 9, 2011 23:27:18 GMT -5
I'll probably be a bit hypocritical, but at some point I do want Nova to come back to life. He is one of my three favorite characters and the MU just isn't the same without him. He's definitely one of their best characters, IMO. But at the same time, I want him to stay dead for a little while to take a well deserved break from the constant action he's had over the past 5 years. He also went out in one of the most bad ass ways, which stayed true to his characters as well. Thanks DnA for treating him right and doing such a great job over the years. Hopefully he can return with a new series that sells really well.
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 9, 2011 23:31:23 GMT -5
616 should have an Ultimatum and have a mass culling of all the characters that just do not matter. Writer favorites should of course be spared so they will not have to even worry about resurrecting them later.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 9, 2011 23:32:11 GMT -5
If that happened, then they'd just come back again. The 616 universe is for pussies...
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 9, 2011 23:33:34 GMT -5
If I win the lottery, I am going to buy controlling interest in Marvel and correct some of this shit.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 9, 2011 23:35:32 GMT -5
If I win the lottery, I am going to buy controlling interest in Marvel and correct some of this shit. If you do, call me, just so I can come over on inauguration day and watch you fire Quesada. |
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Post by Erik-El on Feb 9, 2011 23:39:12 GMT -5
Thanks for reminding me. If that did happen, there would be a writer Ultimatum as well.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Feb 9, 2011 23:43:30 GMT -5
Can I beat them both over the head with a 2X4?
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Post by ckal on Feb 9, 2011 23:44:47 GMT -5
If that happened, then they'd just come back again. The 616 universe is for pussies... The 616 universe is for sales. Killing off main characters in 616 for a long time fiscally does not make sense most of the time I would imagine. |
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