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Post by Erik-El on Oct 21, 2010 18:31:03 GMT -5
Kaine vs Wolverine www.comicvine.com/kaine/29-8667/www.comicvine.com/wolverine/29-1440/SCENARIO ONE:Location: Central Park, New York Starting Distance: 100 feet apart. Gear: Standard. Versions: 616 characters. Most recent. Morals: On. Rules: Elimination by standard methods. SCENARIO TWO:Location: Times Square, New York Starting Distance: 100 feet apart. Gear: Standard. Versions: 616 characters. Most recent Kaine, bone claw Wolverine (current memories and experiences) Morals: On. Rules: Elimination by standard methods. |
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Post by Admin on Oct 21, 2010 18:35:38 GMT -5
Isn't most recent Wolverine a vampire?
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 21, 2010 18:38:12 GMT -5
Yes. If someone wants to make a case with vampire Wolverine that is fine. Once that little gimmick is over though, they will not be able to use that version anymore.
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Post by Admin on Oct 21, 2010 18:38:49 GMT -5
I don't know the difference, I haven't read any of that vampire material.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 21, 2010 18:40:18 GMT -5
Wolverine with vampire powers. I am not sure if he is able to fly though.
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 21, 2010 18:41:36 GMT -5
Most recent Wolverine is
i) a vampire
ii) a demon
iii) possessing the Eye of Agamotto
iv) sent to the past.
So, yeah, there's quite a lot to choose from.
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Post by Admin on Oct 21, 2010 18:42:34 GMT -5
Most recent Wolverine is
i) a vampire
ii) a demon
iii) possessing the Eye of Agamotto
iv) sent to the past.
So, yeah, there's quite a lot to choose from. That's...disgusting. |
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 21, 2010 18:44:18 GMT -5
Most recent Wolverine is
i) a vampire
ii) a demon
iii) possessing the Eye of Agamotto
iv) sent to the past.
So, yeah, there's quite a lot to choose from. That's...disgusting.
Update.
i) a vampire
ii) a demon
iii) possessing the Eye of Agamotto
iv) sent to the past
v) sent to the future
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Oct 21, 2010 18:57:09 GMT -5
i) a vampire ii) a demon iii) possessing the Eye of Agamotto iv) sent to the past v) sent to the future [/i] [/quote] So are those all different versions of him or is he having a Hulk-type split personality? |
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 21, 2010 19:00:24 GMT -5
i) a vampire ii) a demon iii) possessing the Eye of Agamotto iv) sent to the past v) sent to the future [/i] [/quote] So are those all different versions of him or is he having a Hulk-type split personality?[/quote] Neither.
That's the same old canuck we know and love, from Earth 616.
No, it's just the writers having a Hulk-type continuity split. |
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Post by Decoy Elite on Oct 21, 2010 20:12:16 GMT -5
If Wolverine actually fights with his skills/training he should win.
If Wolverine fights like an idiot(distinct possibility given it's Wolverine) then Kaine should come out on top.
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Post by Dane on Oct 22, 2010 1:49:20 GMT -5
Well I'm going to argue for classic Wolverine instead of the current crap sandwich.
I agree with Decoy. If he's written as a competent fighter who hasn't magically forgotten his fighting skills and training he should win the fight. If he's being written by any number of writers who treat him as a mindless retard, he'll get smacked around.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 22, 2010 10:31:05 GMT -5
Ah friends but we must remember that Kaine has much better stats than Spider-Man and is much more hostile as well. Would this not contribute to better results than Spider-Man would get?
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Post by Decoy Elite on Oct 22, 2010 12:44:52 GMT -5
Ah friends but we must remember that Kaine has much better stats than Spider-Man and is much more hostile as well. Would this not contribute to better results than Spider-Man would get? Yes, but Spider-Man would still have issues with retard Wolverine. Skilled Wolverine is a beast, who's actually smart enough to avoid attacks and such. |
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 22, 2010 13:04:17 GMT -5
Yes, but Spider-Man would still have issues with retard Wolverine. Skilled Wolverine is a beast, who's actually smart enough to avoid attacks and such. That is true. I always saw Kaine as the bloodlusted Spider-Man though so I thought his chances would be better in a battle. |
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Post by Decoy Elite on Oct 22, 2010 13:15:47 GMT -5
Yes, but Spider-Man would still have issues with retard Wolverine. Skilled Wolverine is a beast, who's actually smart enough to avoid attacks and such. That is true. I always saw Kaine as the bloodlusted Spider-Man though so I thought his chances would be better in a battle. He certainly puts up a better fight than normal Spider-Man. But if Wolverine uses his fighting skills I think he can pull through. |
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Post by Killshot Caine on Oct 22, 2010 15:32:48 GMT -5
I would say Wolverine.With his ridiculous durability and skill he should prove a problem for Kaine.
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Post by spidey_17 on Oct 23, 2010 2:05:19 GMT -5
Kaine does not have webbing, right?
So the only way for him to beat Logan, it's if he snap his neck, IMO.
Kaine is fast so he can dodge many hits and he is a lot stronger than Logan. But it's highly doubtful that he is strong enough to KO Logan, since he is not skilled enough to use his strength more effectively.
So, unless Kaine will snap his neck, Wolverine eventually should be able to land the hit that is needed to win. So i'll say that it can go either way.
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Post by Killshot Caine on Oct 23, 2010 10:32:28 GMT -5
Kaine does not have webbing, right? So the only way for him to beat Logan, it's if he snap his neck, IMO. Kaine is fast so he can dodge many hits and he is a lot stronger than Logan. But it's highly doubtful that he is strong enough to KO Logan, since he is not skilled enough to use his strength more effectively. So, unless Kaine will snap his neck, Wolverine eventually should be able to land the hit that is needed to win. So i'll say that it can go either way. =] I agree with it going either way but I would give more of the edge to Logan because claws are an instance win if they connect. |
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Post by spidey_17 on Oct 23, 2010 10:37:27 GMT -5
Kaine does not have webbing, right? So the only way for him to beat Logan, it's if he snap his neck, IMO. Kaine is fast so he can dodge many hits and he is a lot stronger than Logan. But it's highly doubtful that he is strong enough to KO Logan, since he is not skilled enough to use his strength more effectively. So, unless Kaine will snap his neck, Wolverine eventually should be able to land the hit that is needed to win. So i'll say that it can go either way. =] I agree with it going either way but I would give more of the edge to Logan because claws are an instance win if they connect. Agreed, but i would give to Logan a very small edge due to Kaine's speed. =] |
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