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Post by Strafe Prower on Mar 15, 2011 17:48:21 GMT -5
It showed he had potential in the comics, but if no one uses his potential, what good is he? He has been around for a long time and It doesn't look like anyone is interested in him much. Well some of my favorite characters are characters with awesome potential no one has ever used in a comic. Just because no one uses them doesn't mean they are good for nothing, nor does it mean they need to adapt or die out. It just means the writers are idiots for not recognizing and utilizing said potential. Potential doesn't give a character quality or quality stories though, which is the point of the thread. The severe drop in qualitiy between Batman's villains. When Mr. Freeze gets a good story, I will consider him a quality villain. Until then, not so much. |
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Mar 15, 2011 18:16:56 GMT -5
I don't disagree Strafe.
Though you did ask me what is there to like about the character. I was focusing more on that point than what you've originally said.
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Post by Strafe Prower on Mar 15, 2011 18:29:08 GMT -5
I don't disagree Strafe. Though you did ask me what is there to like about the character. I was focusing more on that point than what you've originally said. I wasn't taking into account TAS or otherworld stories, Just cannon material. It was nice to remember TAS though....good times. |
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Mar 15, 2011 18:36:10 GMT -5
I don't have a PS3  That's even worse!!!  Okay, save up for a PS3. Then buy Arkham Asylum. |
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Mar 15, 2011 18:37:00 GMT -5
Not Bane Alright Mr. Banelover. With the exception of Bane. The rest were awesome! |
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Post by Lord Barbatos on Mar 15, 2011 22:21:51 GMT -5
Haven't you ever seen Batman TAS? Freeze is one of the most sympathetic, interesting and memorable characters there. I'm not a frequent Batman reader, but I'm pretty sure the modern Freeze is copied from the cartoon. I loved Batman TAS, but all the stuff I have read with Mr. Freeze in comics hasn't been nearly as good. Funny the exact same thing can be said for the riddler, when was he even a threat in the comics? many of batmans rogues are quite pathetic when it comes to threat levels.(laugh at flamingo all you want people but he took on jason,dick,damian and scarlet at once head on) freeze,riddler,penguin,scarecrow are all laughable,these guys get owned by cops and henchmen.they have one or two charms which makes them appealing to people but that's about it. Theres a reason why morrison has only used joker and the al ghuls',all the other villians are of his own creation or are revamps (lord deathman). |
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Post by Lord Barbatos on Mar 15, 2011 22:24:37 GMT -5
And talia is next in line for the throne of the ultimate batvillian.DC's got something big planned for her and maybe libra(leviathan).
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Post by Strafe Prower on Mar 15, 2011 23:48:31 GMT -5
I loved Batman TAS, but all the stuff I have read with Mr. Freeze in comics hasn't been nearly as good. Funny the exact same thing can be said for the riddler, when was he even a threat in the comics? many of batmans rogues are quite pathetic when it comes to threat levels.(laugh at flamingo all you want people but he took on jason,dick,damian and scarlet at once head on) freeze,riddler,penguin,scarecrow are all laughable,these guys get owned by cops and henchmen.they have one or two charms which makes them appealing to people but that's about it. Theres a reason why morrison has only used joker and the al ghuls',all the other villians are of his own creation or are revamps (lord deathman). At least Riddler has the intelligence that makes Dick look like child's play and has one-shotted henchemen for second guessing him. Not to mention he has had character development (Romances and Even reformation) Penguin and Mr. Freeze haven't had any of this. That makes him a quality villain IMO. |
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Mar 29, 2011 1:58:06 GMT -5
The problem with his villains is that they never let them move beyond their own idiosyncrasies. Every time they try, they get pushed back into their old cliches.
All of the Joker's Asylum stories about the villains are really good, I suggest you read them if you have not.
Man-Bat's attempts at being good during Battle For The Cowl was interesting.
Scarecrow's Scarebeast transformation in As the Crow Flies made him more of a physical threat to Batman at the cost of his intellect which provided a kind of Hulk-like situation which was interesting.
Mr. Freeze during Snow was rather interesting but Snow would have been interesting without him.
I like Penguin as an information broker as he provides a nice low tech alternative to the Calculator.
Two Face is only good when written well. His Gotham Central appearance was quite good as was his No Man's Land. I agree that he needs to move beyond the coin.
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Post by Lord Barbatos on Mar 29, 2011 2:17:18 GMT -5
HAIL LEVIATHAN.
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Post by Painkiller on Mar 29, 2011 5:06:29 GMT -5
Flamingo is the greatest Batman villian EVER! He makes the Dark Knight shit his pants in fear!  |
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Post by Lord Barbatos on Mar 29, 2011 10:21:13 GMT -5
Flamingo is the greatest Batman villian EVER! He makes the Dark Knight shit his pants in fear! He skins peoples faces and eats them,ofcourse he's scary  |
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Post by Lord Barbatos on Mar 29, 2011 10:22:00 GMT -5
Azrael/micheal lane has recently joined forces with Ra's.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Mar 29, 2011 18:24:02 GMT -5
Can't say I'm surprised.
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Post by Painkiller on Mar 30, 2011 5:00:25 GMT -5
Flamingo is the greatest Batman villian EVER! He makes the Dark Knight shit his pants in fear! He skins peoples faces and eats them,ofcourse he's scary He does? Oh $#*! this is kinda scary! |
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Post by Lord Barbatos on Mar 30, 2011 8:10:52 GMT -5
Was this directed towards flamingo or azrael?funnily they were both created by dr hurt. |
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Mar 30, 2011 14:26:30 GMT -5
Flamingo is such a typical Morrison creation. Flashy, colorful, and balls out scary.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Mar 30, 2011 19:52:10 GMT -5
Was this directed towards flamingo or azrael?funnily they were both created by dr hurt. both. |
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Seriously? Everyone of Batman's villains in that game are portrayed awesomely! Especially Scarecrow and Killer Croc, IMO. You need to buy this right now for you Playstation 3! 
Okay, save up for a PS3. Then buy Arkham Asylum. 
