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Post by jakefury on Apr 8, 2011 20:56:42 GMT -5
I don't read the cosmic stuff either Erik
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Post by ckal on Apr 8, 2011 20:59:04 GMT -5
I don't read the cosmic stuff either Erik Shame on you  |
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Post by jakefury on Apr 8, 2011 21:12:08 GMT -5
I like the heroes on terra firma  |
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Post by ckal on Apr 8, 2011 21:14:46 GMT -5
Nova is from Long Island....there's your terra firma for you! =)
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Post by jakefury on Apr 8, 2011 21:18:45 GMT -5
LMAO good review guys.
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Post by jakefury on Apr 8, 2011 21:29:10 GMT -5
ckal, tame your cat.
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Post by Gender on Apr 8, 2011 22:00:38 GMT -5
Just to address Thor from 602 remaking Agard, took him like a week:    Which I figure you could take as one of two ways, Thor doesn't pack the full Odin force, at least not post resurrection or he is simply not as fine tuned with it as Odin is with it's use. Probably a bit of both, mainly because it seems to refer to it as "some of Odin's power lives within me still."  Not to mention Odin was still killing Surtur day in and day out, I would imagine he still had a portion of his power to do so. And it's probably why Odin kicks Thor's rear as easily as he did in Fear Itself. Although you would expect the Thor Force Mjolnir to respond only to Thor, but whatever. |
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Post by NorCalCO on Apr 8, 2011 22:14:15 GMT -5
Another solid review gentlemen. I think these reviews will go a long way towards bringing new members to the site here.
I definitely appreciated the symbolism of what took place with the riot and Steve and Sharon in the opening pages. I think it was a good way to start off the book.
Admittedly I'm not a huge Thor reader, but even to a casual Thor fan Odin's behavior seemed out of character and not in keeping with things I thought I knew about him. He seemed overly arrogant and aggressive to me. It's entirely possible this is due to him feeling played about suffering his "greatest failure" though. Pulling the carpet out from under Tony, the rest of the Avengers and the town of Broxton regarding rebuilding Asgard was beyond disrespectful.
I am already a huge fan of Fraction's writing and I enjoyed Immonen's art in this as well. I think both compliment each other and lend themselves well to this kind of an event story.
Knowing that this book stemmed from the initial idea of a Thor / Captain America storyline to coincide with the movie releases made Spider Man calling Steve "Cap" twice at the end of the book stand out for me as well. It's definitely clear from the regular Captain America title that Marvel is moving back that direction (especially after the .1 issue).
In all I really enjoyed this issue and I had a few "wow" moments while reading it. I think they did a great job of laying a strong foundation, grabbing the reader and moving the story forward just enough to set-up for #2. I'm definitely looking forward to the next one!
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Post by Admin on Apr 8, 2011 22:34:36 GMT -5
Thanks, Hellos.
Much appreciated, Lee. I can't believe both ckal and I forgot to remark on the opening scene! I guess we were just so caught up on speculating about what's to come! The meaning behind that scene was definitely pretty strong and can be easily overlooked, IMO.
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Post by NorCalCO on Apr 8, 2011 22:42:58 GMT -5
Much appreciated, Lee. I can't believe both ckal and I forgot to remark on the opening scene! I guess we were just so caught up on speculating about what's to come! The meaning behind that scene was definitely pretty strong and can be easily overlooked, IMO. You're welcome. Also, there was a A LOT going on in that book so it's not all the surprising that you guys over-looked that opening scene. I just feel like it might be setting the tone for the whole event. |
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Post by ckal on Apr 8, 2011 23:18:05 GMT -5
Hellos- Damn, that is such good art, I loved that run. I'm so happy Olivier Coipel is on pencils again on 'The Mighty Thor' until 'Fear Itself' is done.
Thanks for the scans. That is something I actually did not remember, about it taking him a week to rebuild Asgard. You are right that it may be a combo of those two reasons, and Odin could possibly have done it with a snap of his fingers. But either way, it is not a particularly long process at all. -Side note- I remember hearing something a while back that JMS intended to have Thor regain the Odin Force, but it was never followed up on obviously because he left the title (I'm not 100% on this so I could be wrong, don't quote me on it). But unfortunately, I don't think this part of Thor's history is ever going to be followed up on again, and it will just be forgotten. But who knows, maybe since Odin is back something will change.
norcal- Thanks man. Yeah, I can't believe we forgot to go over the beginning, but as you know, this issue was just jam packed! Good points, I'm really looking forward to the next one too.
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Post by jakefury on Apr 8, 2011 23:34:46 GMT -5
If anyone wants to see how the hammer arrived in Antarctica then check out my Book Of The Skull review! It details Sin/Red Skull and what led up to this fabulous first issue.
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Post by Gender on Apr 8, 2011 23:40:19 GMT -5
It's all I could do since I haven't gotten a hold of the issue itself, so I figured I might elaborate on the past a bit in the thread involving how long it took Thor to pull it off and such, while possibly pointing out why Odin might have a great deal of an easy time. Hellos- Damn, that is such good art, I loved that run. I'm so happy Olivier Coipel is on pencils again on 'The Mighty Thor' until 'Fear Itself' is done. Thanks for the scans. That is something I actually did not remember, about it taking him a week to rebuild Asgard. You are right that it may be a combo of those two reasons, and Odin could possibly have done it with a snap of his fingers. But either way, it is not a particularly long process at all. -Side note- I remember hearing something a while back that JMS intended to have Thor regain the Odin Force, but it was never followed up on obviously because he left the title (I'm not 100% on this so I could be wrong, don't quote me on it). But unfortunately, I don't think this part of Thor's history is ever going to be followed up on again, and it will just be forgotten. But who knows, maybe since Odin is back something will change. Ditto, Coipel is awsome and I jumped up for joy when I heard he was going to come back for the Mighty Thor and from what Fraction says he's going to be outdoing himself. Didn't hear that rumor, that would have been interesting. Marvel seems to be running off it essentially just sorta chilling inside Thor's hammer( Unless reviving Odin transferred it back, but I doubt that, since there was nothing to imply it). Namely why the Twilight Sword couldn't dent the damn thing, which is a great feat for Mjolnir and probably why Thor was able to take on a Skyfather Glory's full power attack in Chaos War. Odin I doubt will be giving Thor any power. He seemed pretty peeved that Thor brought not only him back, but Loki(Which you had to admit, Thor essentially shot himself in the foot for bringing the both of them back). I figure either fear itself will get into why Odin is pissed or Mighty Thor will. Although I figure essentially living under the false notion of being all father for thousands of years and it about to literally blow up in your face with the truth revealed might be the reason. I'm expecting Thor to get his !@# kicked a lot in Fear Itself. I fear that the volumes I picked up to catch up on current Thor might have turned me into a bit of a fanboy of him. =P Probably also had to do with Coipel's kick ass art. |
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Post by NorCalCO on Apr 8, 2011 23:51:35 GMT -5
Odin I doubt will be giving Thor any power. He seemed pretty peeved that Thor brought not only him back, but Loki(Which you had to admit, Thor essentially shot himself in the foot for bringing the both of them back). I thought Thor bringing Loki back was absolutely ridiculous, especially so soon after Siege and the fall of Asgard. |
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Post by Gender on Apr 8, 2011 23:54:36 GMT -5
I thought Thor bringing Loki back was absolutely ridiculous, especially so soon after Siege and the fall of Asgard. I don't know Thor had a lot of time after Siege to think about it. But it's just going to end with him getting screwed. I just don't see it happening any other way. |
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Post by NorCalCO on Apr 9, 2011 0:05:41 GMT -5
Yeah, it's unlikely that anything good is going to come from that decision.
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Apr 9, 2011 0:24:51 GMT -5
Can't wait for second issue. THE WORTHY are gonna kick sooo much ass.
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Apr 9, 2011 0:25:11 GMT -5
I don't read the cosmic stuff either Erik Neither do I.  |
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Post by NorCalCO on Apr 9, 2011 18:59:15 GMT -5
Just came across a pretty good interview with Matt Fraction regarding Fear Itself #1 over on Marvel's website. Fraction offers some pretty good insights in to the story and teases #2 as well. Make sure you've read Fear Itself #1 first though because there are a ton of spoilers. Check out the interview here. |
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Post by ckal on Apr 9, 2011 19:48:03 GMT -5
I'll tell you how that choice ends. It ends with Loki being the main character of a series (journey into mystery).
Hellos- ah yes! I'm glad you're a Thor fan boy =) would love to have a discussion with you about this more but I'm on my iPhone right now and going out for the night
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