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Post by Gender on Apr 9, 2011 20:12:17 GMT -5
I'll tell you how that choice ends. It ends with Loki being the main character of a series (journey into mystery). Hellos- ah yes! I'm glad you're a Thor fan boy =) would love to have a discussion with you about this more but I'm on my iPhone right now and going out for the night Never thought I'd be praised for becoming a bit of a fanboy. =P I look forward to seeing the beatings poor Thor will get getting in Fear Itself, especially without Mjolnir. |
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 9, 2011 23:14:18 GMT -5
I just finished Book of the Skull, Homefront #1 and Fear Itself #1 in that order. I am stoked for the event now.
I thought that Thor was written very well.
I have an opinion about Odin. I do not think he was being a prick so much as he was acting out of fear. I think he decided the best thing to do was retreat back to Asgard with all of his people. Putting all his eggs in one basket.
Which is also why I think he forced Thor to return. So that the most powerful Asgardian next to him would be there to protect Asgard from the All-Father.
He knew it was coming the entire time. The only thing that puzzles me is that he left Mjolnir behind in the ruins of the old Asgard on Earth.
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Post by Admin on Apr 10, 2011 14:59:27 GMT -5
I can see that, but it still doesn't justify just how much of a douche he was acting like. He could have handled it far better if it was just out of fear to protect his people.
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 10, 2011 15:04:45 GMT -5
That would be believable if Odin wasn't acting in the exact same manner during Fraction's run on Thor's on-going before Fear Itself ever happened.
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Post by greenlantern555 on Apr 10, 2011 15:07:31 GMT -5
Very nice review guys. ;-)
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 10, 2011 15:08:48 GMT -5
I can see that, but it still doesn't justify just how much of a douche he was acting like. He could have handled it far better if it was just out of fear to protect his people. Well I do not think Odin has ever been called a rational man. I think his idea was to protect his people but he just goes about it the wrong way. |
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Post by Admin on Apr 10, 2011 15:26:30 GMT -5
Thanks, Highball.
Erik, aka he acted like a douche.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 10, 2011 15:27:33 GMT -5
That would be believable if Odin wasn't acting in the exact same manner during Fraction's run on Thor's on-going before Fear Itself ever happened. But he knew that it was coming because Odin knew the prophesy. |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 10, 2011 15:33:15 GMT -5
That would be believable if Odin wasn't acting in the exact same manner during Fraction's run on Thor's on-going before Fear Itself ever happened. But he knew that it was coming because Odin knew the prophesy.
Also, if memory serves right, he told the Watcher "I fear the final prophecy is at hand". He isn't sure about it, he simply speculates at that point, and anyhow, he never gave any sign of that fear during his appearances in Thor. He simply acted like a jerk for the sake of it. It's just poor characterisation, is all. |
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 10, 2011 15:50:44 GMT -5
@morph:
Well that could be explained away by comparing it to something a little more mortal. We as humans know we are all going to die eventually, yet we do not get scared about it until it is a little closer to actually happening.
He can still be really afraid of this potential prophecy even before it is for sure, because even if it is for sure, it means it is happening right now.
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 10, 2011 15:52:53 GMT -5
Not sure why he'd be afraid of it, though. He has died plenty of times already.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 10, 2011 15:54:43 GMT -5
Not sure why he'd be afraid of it, though. He has died plenty of times already. Yeah but this could be the guy that ends him for good. Odin has shown fear before. There are things that can make this god afraid. |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 10, 2011 15:55:57 GMT -5
Everyone can be afraid, but even when Odin had to face a guy who was busting galaxies, he was pretty cool headed and composed, as opposed to this.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 10, 2011 16:03:46 GMT -5
Everyone can be afraid, but even when Odin had to face a guy who was busting galaxies, he was pretty cool headed and composed, as opposed to this. His home just got wreckd. Why you gotta act da fool Morph? |
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 10, 2011 16:04:48 GMT -5
A home which he can recreate with a snap of his fingers, to his own admission. No sweat.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 10, 2011 16:08:06 GMT -5
A home which he can recreate with a snap of his fingers, to his own admission. No sweat. Party pooper. |
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 10, 2011 16:26:18 GMT -5
Joking aside, Odin was clearly distressed at the thought that this prophesy was finally coming about. That added to the fact that his ilk were mingling with lesser beings and his son was actually going to allow humans to build an abomination to be their home probably just threw fuel on the fire.
Odin is old school and Thor embraces the way things were heading. This stuffs anger and fear into one package. Odin blew his top. I do not believe that Odin has ever been called calm, reasonable or rational. So he is blind to the mistakes he is making.
Retreating back to Asgard is a mistake. So is forcing his son to go with him. But I can see where he is coming from and what is driving his decisions. He is going to protect his people, be damned to what everyone thinks about it.
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Apr 12, 2011 14:28:56 GMT -5
"REMEMBER ME! FOR MY NAME IS ODIN! THE GOD OF DOUCHEBAGGERY!"
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Post by InnerVenom123 on Apr 12, 2011 14:30:23 GMT -5
Joking aside, Odin was clearly distressed at the thought that this prophesy was finally coming about. That added to the fact that his ilk were mingling with lesser beings and his son was actually going to allow humans to build an abomination to be their home probably just threw fuel on the fire. Odin is old school and Thor embraces the way things were heading. This stuffs anger and fear into one package. Odin blew his top. I do not believe that Odin has ever been called calm, reasonable or rational. So he is blind to the mistakes he is making. Retreating back to Asgard is a mistake. So is forcing his son to go with him. But I can see where he is coming from and what is driving his decisions. He is going to protect his people, be damned to what everyone thinks about it. But really, pretty much this. Thor and Odin's relationship is the typical "Dad is stuck in the past and son is moving into the future with no problem so they butt heads" stuff. But with Godhood, and hammers that make shit blow up. So its pretty much awesome. ;D |
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Post by Gender on Apr 25, 2011 1:27:47 GMT -5
Joking aside, Odin was clearly distressed at the thought that this prophesy was finally coming about. That added to the fact that his ilk were mingling with lesser beings and his son was actually going to allow humans to build an abomination to be their home probably just threw fuel on the fire. Odin is old school and Thor embraces the way things were heading. This stuffs anger and fear into one package. Odin blew his top. I do not believe that Odin has ever been called calm, reasonable or rational. So he is blind to the mistakes he is making. Retreating back to Asgard is a mistake. So is forcing his son to go with him. But I can see where he is coming from and what is driving his decisions. He is going to protect his people, be damned to what everyone thinks about it. But really, pretty much this. Thor and Odin's relationship is the typical "Dad is stuck in the past and son is moving into the future with no problem so they butt heads" stuff. But with Godhood, and hammers that make shit blow up. So its pretty much awesome. ;D Don't forget said magic hammer killed the Dinosaurs being forged.   One wonders though, is Marvel sticking with Odin creating mankind? Or some other force? |
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