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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 12, 2011 15:24:52 GMT -5
I was wondering what makes Luke Skywalker, Darth Bane, Darth Sidious and Exar Kun so high? I know minimal of their abilities. I just would like to know if they're there because of their duelling ability.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 12, 2011 15:27:43 GMT -5
Just wondering where Goku and Vegeta where as well?
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Post by Matezoide on Jun 14, 2011 13:02:04 GMT -5
should we rank Kratos? God of War has a comic-series (check his respect thread) What about the Warriors Three? |
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Post by Vance Astro on Jun 14, 2011 13:25:06 GMT -5
should we rank Kratos? God of War has a comic-series (check his respect thread) What about the Warriors Three? 1.We could rate Kratos.I don't know where he would rank because I never read the book though. 2.The Warriors 3 are probably mid-low 4's at best.They have feats.I doubt anyone here would be impressed by them though. |
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 14, 2011 13:25:59 GMT -5
Hogun got outskilled by Daredevil, lol.
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Post by Vance Astro on Jun 14, 2011 14:31:35 GMT -5
Hogun got outskilled by Daredevil, lol. I blame the handlebar mustache. |
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Post by Morpheus on Jun 14, 2011 14:41:14 GMT -5
He's trying too hard to copy Deadshot's porn 'stache, is all.
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Post by creator on Jun 15, 2011 2:27:43 GMT -5
Hey guy's. This thread was great for starting up the discussion of ranking. However now that Creator has his grid's (specifically the fighting one) which will be ranking fighting skill on other levels (he's just asked for input on some characters rating WITH weapons) it would be nice to see the discussion over there. Not that I'm against this thread (lord knows I've had more than my 2cents to say) but the continuation of this seems to be stalling the Grid. Which would be a great shame after all the work our Ledger of the month (rightly deserved) has put in. Not saying don't post here, just respectfully requesting that you all also contribute over there. Thanks for the support beat  I am however just copying over the feedback in to the grid  |
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Post by ronniebolt on Jun 15, 2011 17:20:35 GMT -5
@mjolnir Wielder: Actually her recent fight with Lester was impressive because despite being druged, tortured and being beaten from Lester, she manage to fought back and took Lester by surprise. But that feat was mostly a pain tolerance one instead of an actual skill feat. And in that fight, Lester had a sniper rifle that he did not bother to use against her. She never really beaten wolverine and in one of their fights, Logan was being distracted by shield soldiers IIRC, that allowed Elektra to sneak up on him. Besides, there are plenty of characters that held their own against Logan. Hell even Doctor Strange has done that. Also DD has done that as well and he was also fighting numerous ninjas too at the same time. DD is a great fighter but when you compare him with Marvel's best fighters, he is not that good. IIRC, her fight with Shang was not an h2h fight at all. I think she has thrown to him her sais and he used a table to block them, then he has thrown them back at her. Beating Silver Samurai is a good feat though, i agree. Personally, i would place Elektra slightly lower than DD. She has beaten him a few times, but most of the time, they never had serious fights and conditions played a big role in their battles. 1. You're right, he did have a sniper rifle. Problem is, Elektra has bullet-timing feats as it is and it's very rare (if ever) you see a sniper rifle being used effectively when two of the combatants are on the same rooftop. And her improvising, while paired with pure skill, is what made the performance impressive IMO. 2. Yeah, if you're referring to Enemy of the State. Logan was forced to fight off SHIELD soldiers before Elektra temporarily restrains him. He gets back up, heals from the paralysis the Sai's did, and goes up against Elektra 1-on-1. She schools and puts him down again. Logan has had a hell of a lot more high-end showings than low-end ones. I'm pretty sure he's also lost to Nick Fury in H2H, and I do know that Townshend Horgan one-shotted him when he was part of the X-Men. But it's all inconsistent with the character, to say the least. He's still arguably the premier fighter on Marvel Earth, regardless of how poorly portrayed he is at times. That has been shown time and time again. 3. I shouldn't have even brought it up. That was supposed to merely provide further emphasis as far as why Elektra is far from mediocre. Again, I have no problem with people ranking Elektra outside the top 10 in H2H on Marvel Earth. But when someone states that she's a mediocre fighter, I have to set them straight. Good debating with you again, my friend. ;D she is mediocre brah, she should be no higher then a 5 |
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Post by Admin on Jun 15, 2011 17:25:22 GMT -5
1. You're right, he did have a sniper rifle. Problem is, Elektra has bullet-timing feats as it is and it's very rare (if ever) you see a sniper rifle being used effectively when two of the combatants are on the same rooftop. And her improvising, while paired with pure skill, is what made the performance impressive IMO. 2. Yeah, if you're referring to Enemy of the State. Logan was forced to fight off SHIELD soldiers before Elektra temporarily restrains him. He gets back up, heals from the paralysis the Sai's did, and goes up against Elektra 1-on-1. She schools and puts him down again. Logan has had a hell of a lot more high-end showings than low-end ones. I'm pretty sure he's also lost to Nick Fury in H2H, and I do know that Townshend Horgan one-shotted him when he was part of the X-Men. But it's all inconsistent with the character, to say the least. He's still arguably the premier fighter on Marvel Earth, regardless of how poorly portrayed he is at times. That has been shown time and time again. 3. I shouldn't have even brought it up. That was supposed to merely provide further emphasis as far as why Elektra is far from mediocre. Again, I have no problem with people ranking Elektra outside the top 10 in H2H on Marvel Earth. But when someone states that she's a mediocre fighter, I have to set them straight. Good debating with you again, my friend. ;D she is mediocre brah, she should be no higher then a 5 I believe you'll need to elaborate. She was a pretty high 6 before, but I and a few others had her lowered. I imagine you'll need to drop some very good evidence if you wish to lower her even further. |
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Post by ronniebolt on Jun 15, 2011 17:53:54 GMT -5
she is mediocre brah, she should be no higher then a 5 I believe you'll need to elaborate. She was a pretty high 6 before, but I and a few others had her lowered. I imagine you'll need to drop some very good evidence if you wish to lower her even further. well she was stalemated by a 5 recently and she usually gets dominated by 6's like lester and murdock. some people say she held back on widow but i dont see any evidence of that |
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Post by ronniebolt on Jun 15, 2011 17:54:25 GMT -5
btw id also like to know why star wars characters are so high. i dont know anything about them so im curious as well
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Post by Pirateking69 on Jun 15, 2011 18:06:02 GMT -5
@ronnie they were debated way pages back why there that high
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Post by ronniebolt on Jun 15, 2011 18:09:34 GMT -5
@ronnie they were debated way pages back why there that high its 151 pages, could you at least point me in the right direction? |
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Post by Pirateking69 on Jun 15, 2011 18:12:14 GMT -5
no sorry pretty sure silver is the one that debated for them to be that high
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Post by Admin on Jun 15, 2011 18:13:00 GMT -5
I lol'd.
Unfortunately, I have no idea, Ronnie. I'd recommend checking the last 5 pages.
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Post by ronniebolt on Jun 15, 2011 18:39:52 GMT -5
Master Chief should be 6. He performed a nerve strike that snapped the spine of 2 armored elites.
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Post by Vance Astro on Jun 16, 2011 9:43:41 GMT -5
Master Chief should be 6. He performed a nerve strike that snapped the spine of 2 armored elites. I don't think that makes someone a 6. |
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 16, 2011 10:05:21 GMT -5
Master Chief should be 6. He performed a nerve strike that snapped the spine of 2 armored elites. Not really a nerve strike when you cause massive trauma to the body either. Nerve strikes are moves done that do not cause trauma. So either he was doing them wrong or they were not intended as nerve strikes but vicious paralyzing attacks. |
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Post by Pirateking69 on Jun 16, 2011 11:44:06 GMT -5
Yea that doesn't make him a 6 just because he can a do a nerve strike. It also sounds more like a strength feat imo.
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