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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 14:55:52 GMT -5
The idea of an ancient greek person wanting to stay celebate is alien to ancient greek culture honestly. This is a culture that started to fuck at age 12. I recall learning about those who chose to worship certain gods required celibacy.
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Post by cm24 on Jun 3, 2011 14:56:55 GMT -5
I was wondering something about WW. The Pre-Crisis WW gave up her immortality in order to remain to the Patriarch's World. Was the Post Crisis WW immortal or at least was she aging any slower than normal? I haven't read much WW so I don't know much about her.
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Post by cm24 on Jun 3, 2011 14:58:30 GMT -5
I remember that some oracles and priestesses had taken vows of celibacy but it wasn't something in the general populace.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:01:25 GMT -5
I was wondering something about WW. The Pre-Crisis WW gave up her immortality in order to remain to the Patriarch's World. Was the Post Crisis WW immortal or at least was she aging any slower than normal? I haven't read much WW so I don't know much about her. Wonder Woman is immortal when she is on Themyscira, just like all Amazons. However there are times when Diana's immortality is used differently. Sometimes she is just plain immortal (excluding the time she was a god), sometimes she is just plain not an immortal at all. Her immortality is dealt with inconsistently unfortunately.
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Post by cm24 on Jun 3, 2011 15:03:17 GMT -5
I see. Thanks. Was she immortal in the reboot?
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:03:37 GMT -5
More recently, she was just plain eternally young. Which is why Circe cursed (or blessed depending on your viewpoint) her with the ability to turn into a mortal.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:04:21 GMT -5
I see. Thanks. Was she immortal in the reboot? They have not gotten that far yet. She is still like 20 years old or something.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 3, 2011 15:04:31 GMT -5
I was wondering something about WW. The Pre-Crisis WW gave up her immortality in order to remain to the Patriarch's World. Was the Post Crisis WW immortal or at least was she aging any slower than normal? I haven't read much WW so I don't know much about her. Wonder Woman is immortal when she is on Themyscira, just like all Amazons. However there are times when Diana's immortality is used differently. Sometimes she is just plain immortal (excluding the time she was a god), sometimes she is just plain not an immortal at all. Her immortality is dealt with inconsistently unfortunately. Just need a good writer for her. Like in Kingdom Come, I think she didn't age while Superman did. Even when hundreds of years passed she didn't grow older. That's the great Mark Waid for you.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:05:41 GMT -5
Wonder Woman is immortal when she is on Themyscira, just like all Amazons. However there are times when Diana's immortality is used differently. Sometimes she is just plain immortal (excluding the time she was a god), sometimes she is just plain not an immortal at all. Her immortality is dealt with inconsistently unfortunately. Just need a good writer for her. Like in Kingdom Come, I think she didn't age while Superman did. Even when hundreds of years passed she didn't grow older. That's the great Mark Waid for you. Yeah they were using her more recent immortality gig.
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Post by cm24 on Jun 3, 2011 15:06:49 GMT -5
Yeah, I read those issues with Circe.
Well she did seem young but with Ross's art sometimes it is kinda difficult to understand lol
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2011 15:07:31 GMT -5
I recall learning about those who chose to worship certain gods required celibacy. Some oracles and priestesses required to be virgins. But those did often had rituals of "holy sex" where certain members of the faith would act out the role of the god in the sexual activity. Only very, very specific religious positions required absolute virginity. And the one that did was because the goddess herself was a virgin (Hestia)
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 3, 2011 15:08:06 GMT -5
Just need a good writer for her. Like in Kingdom Come, I think she didn't age while Superman did. Even when hundreds of years passed she didn't grow older. That's the great Mark Waid for you. Yeah they were using her more recent immortality gig. How recent? 'cause Kingdom Come was made in 1996.
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Post by cm24 on Jun 3, 2011 15:09:12 GMT -5
Or Artemis IIRC.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:10:03 GMT -5
Yeah they were using her more recent immortality gig. How recent? 'cause Kingdom Come was made in 1996. Excuse me. Most recent excluding her current retcon lol.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2011 15:10:31 GMT -5
Priestesses of Artemis were not required celebacy, in fact sex was encouraged because Artemis is also a goddess of fertility, birth and motherhood.
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Post by cm24 on Jun 3, 2011 15:12:14 GMT -5
Really? Then I must be confusing her with someone else. I admit it has been a while since the last time I read any mythology or history.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2011 15:13:51 GMT -5
Really? Then I must be confusing her with someone else. I admit it has been a while since the last time I read any mythology or history. Hestia required celibacy from it's priestesses. Artemis did not even if in the version known by most people she is a virgin herself. Really, celibacy is not something that is part of greek religion. That even one goddess would require it is notable.
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Post by cm24 on Jun 3, 2011 15:14:51 GMT -5
I can agree with that.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:17:27 GMT -5
Artemis - virgin hunter - goddess of the hunt, wild animals, wilderness, childbirth, virginity and young girls, bringing and relieving disease in women.
Athena - chaste warrior - is the goddess of wisdom, civilization, warfare, strength, strategy, female arts, crafts, justice and skill.
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Post by Khaos King on Jun 3, 2011 15:18:42 GMT -5
what about Athena and Medusa being virgins
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