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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2011 15:19:19 GMT -5
Artemis - virgin hunter - goddess of the hunt, wild animals, wilderness, childbirth, virginity and young girls, bringing and relieving disease in women. Athena - chaste warrior - is the goddess of wisdom, civilization, warfare, strength, strategy, female arts, crafts, justice and skill. that they themselves were said to be virgins had no bearing on whether their priests and priestess were required virginity in greek culture. I'll also point out that in some versions don't actually have Artemis as virgin. One defining trait in greek religion is a disconnect in how the gods act and how mortals should act. |
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:20:54 GMT -5
Since Amazons have no men to have children with, swearing to virginity when applicable is reasonable to me for those who follow Artemis.
The same applies for Athena. Those Amazons who have previously had sex but want to walk Athena's path I could understand them swearing off sex.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:22:04 GMT -5
Artemis - virgin hunter - goddess of the hunt, wild animals, wilderness, childbirth, virginity and young girls, bringing and relieving disease in women. Athena - chaste warrior - is the goddess of wisdom, civilization, warfare, strength, strategy, female arts, crafts, justice and skill. that they themselves were said to be virgins had no bearing on whether their priests and priestess were required virginity in greek culture. I'll also point out that in some versions don't actually have Artemis as virgin. One defining trait in greek religion is a disconnect in how the gods act and how mortals should act. Amazons are not technically Greek nor are they true mortals. Besides that, their entire way of worship is different than regular Greeks. |
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 3, 2011 15:22:10 GMT -5
Well, it's hard not to see why. I mean, one look at her will turn you to stone. 
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2011 15:22:50 GMT -5
Since Amazons have no men to have children with, swearing to virginity when applicable is reasonable to me for those who follow Artemis. The same applies for Athena. Those Amazons who have previously had sex but want to walk Athena's path I could understand them swearing off sex. Just to clarify: I'm not saying within the context of Wonder Woman comics or the DC universe that it couldn't make sense. Just pointing out that it is a deliberate change and difference in cultural traits to actual real world ancient greek culture. That's all. |
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:24:20 GMT -5
Since Amazons have no men to have children with, swearing to virginity when applicable is reasonable to me for those who follow Artemis. The same applies for Athena. Those Amazons who have previously had sex but want to walk Athena's path I could understand them swearing off sex. Just to clarify: I'm not saying within the context of Wonder Woman comics or the DC universe that it couldn't make sense. Just pointing out that it is a deliberate change and difference in cultural traits to actual real world ancient greek culture. That's all. I get that. But Amazons are not really Greek. They were originally created as the chosen people to civilize Greeks. Their way or worship might be different by intent as they literally speak with their gods and their gods walk among them. |
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Post by Khaos King on Jun 3, 2011 15:24:41 GMT -5
Well, it's hard not to see why. I mean, one look at her will turn you to stone. she was a virgin priestess before she was raped and turned into a gorgon |
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 3, 2011 15:26:52 GMT -5
Well, it's hard not to see why. I mean, one look at her will turn you to stone. she was a virgin priestess before she was raped and turned into a gorgon |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2011 15:27:34 GMT -5
She was virgin in the sense that she hadn't had sex yet. Not that she was required to never have sex.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:30:59 GMT -5
She was virgin in the sense that she hadn't had sex yet. Not that she was required to never have sex. Wikipedia states that she swore celibacy and then was raped, which caused her to be punished for what seems to be a break in her oath. |
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Jun 3, 2011 15:34:33 GMT -5
She was virgin in the sense that she hadn't had sex yet. Not that she was required to never have sex. Wikipedia states that she swore celibacy and then was raped, which caused her to be punished for what seems to be a break in her oath. |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2011 15:37:59 GMT -5
Wikipedia states that she swore celibacy and then was raped, which caused her to be punished for what seems to be a break in her oath. While I'm not sure of going further and further into this isn't derailing the thread and if we should move this to my mythology thread... But anyway basically this doesn't mean she can't have sex per say by greek culture. Simply that when an oath is sworn in the name of a god. Only the god can give release from the promise. That means before she could have sex again, she would require permission from Athena. It's worth mentioning that in earlier myths, the gorgons (medusa included) were chtonic goddesses, not mortals transformed into monsters as divine punishment. Medusa as a cursed priestess version is from Ovid's metamorphoses 4.7770. It is seen as just because, her rape defiled Athena's temple and because part of the story implies that she enraged many worthwhile suitors with her beauty and vanity of it. Yeah the greek gods were often dicks. |
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:39:52 GMT -5
Lol.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:50:05 GMT -5
So anyway, I would like to see Diana and Clark touch on a relationship without it actually going anywhere for the reboot.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2011 15:51:18 GMT -5
Eh, I don't see the appeal of Diana and Clark together. Honestly if they are going to reboot, make a completely new love interest for Diana, like a mythical being or hero.
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:56:24 GMT -5
Ugh they tried that already in her regular series when she and that Indian god started something. It was pure poop to me.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2011 15:57:56 GMT -5
Ugh they tried that already in her regular series when she and that Indian god started something. It was pure poop to me. just because they made poop of the idea. Doesn't mean the idea isn't good, especially now that they are supposedly starting fresh with little to no baggage or preconceived notions. |
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 15:59:25 GMT -5
Okay. It was executed poorly. They both just spent their time together talking about their responsibility to their gods (the Indian dude was a lesser god or demigod or whatevs).
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2011 16:00:49 GMT -5
Okay. It was executed poorly. They both just spent their time together talking about their responsibility to their gods (the Indian dude was a lesser god or demigod or whatevs). in other words a good idea used poorly. |
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Post by Erik-El on Jun 3, 2011 16:04:55 GMT -5
Plus I do not know how I would feel about a portion of Gaea's soul making it with some other pantheon.
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