Post by InnerVenom123 on Aug 8, 2011 16:27:48 GMT -5
The Dark Knight was fantastic, and I loved how The Joker was done there. I only post the obvious as my first sentence because I can't think of a better way to start it off.
The "scar stories" in particular were a favorite of mine. Now, in the film, we hear two of them. The first is about Joker's father, the second is about Joker's wife. The two stories obviously do not interconnect and they're both made up by him. We don't know his origin.
The third scar story is interrupted when Batman launches his armor spikes into Joker's face and tosses him over a ledge.
I, well, I came up with an idea for it. Basically, it'd be the truth behind Joker.
Ironically, I prefer it when Joker has no set origin or persona. But, still, I thought this idea was at least worth sharing.
So, uh, basically: it'd be about an unnamed man living in the narrows around the time of Batman Begins.
Before the fear-toxin was evaporated into the air, he was just a loser living alone in a one-bedroom apartment, with nothing really to live for. Just a blank slate personified, basically. Day to day life with no promise of it getting better.
When the fear toxin cloud hits the narrows, he's outside among the crowd. This man has a rather big fear of clowns.
Of course, given how Crane's fear toxin acts in Begins, he gets a more intense vision than you'd expect. He sees people as walking skulls, with their lips stretched open over the bone, and makeup bleeding out of their eyes. They shout at him, "Why so serious?!" repeatedly.
After receiving the antidote, he still can't shake the image. He's cracked. They're stuck in his head. They won't leave. "Why so serious?" echoes in his dreams.
After about a week, he can't take it anymore. He needs to prove them wrong. He needs to smile, just one more time. But he can't be alive and do that. That'd just be insane. There's no more happiness in his future, alive anyway.
((This is where things get a tad unrealistic))
The inevitable happens, he takes out a knife, he does his best work. He passes out.
He wakes up in his own filth shaking and humiliated and lower than the lowest of the low. He manages to fix himself up (stitching and whatnot) and realizes that the ultimate joke is a failed suicide. So, he decides to try again.
This time, however, he'll need to make sure he can't fail. And the only way he figures that can happen is if he kills everyone else first. If he burns down the whole world, there won't be anything to stop him from being caught in the fire.
He commits double homicide, and he leaves his calling card; thus the Batman Begins sequel tease scene.
IMO, this idea is a good way to show off the "Batman and Joker are two sides of the same coin" idea.
Bruce becomes Batman to channel his rage and live on without cracking, Joker becomes Joker so he can kill and eventually be killed.
Bruce uses his fear to protect people, Joker uses his fear to terrify and kill people. ETC.
ANYWAY,
I've gotten good feedback on that idea, so I figured I'd just post it for the sake of the opinion of my fellow ledgers.
Thoughts?
(Be nice, please)
The "scar stories" in particular were a favorite of mine. Now, in the film, we hear two of them. The first is about Joker's father, the second is about Joker's wife. The two stories obviously do not interconnect and they're both made up by him. We don't know his origin.
The third scar story is interrupted when Batman launches his armor spikes into Joker's face and tosses him over a ledge.
I, well, I came up with an idea for it. Basically, it'd be the truth behind Joker.
Ironically, I prefer it when Joker has no set origin or persona. But, still, I thought this idea was at least worth sharing.
So, uh, basically: it'd be about an unnamed man living in the narrows around the time of Batman Begins.
Before the fear-toxin was evaporated into the air, he was just a loser living alone in a one-bedroom apartment, with nothing really to live for. Just a blank slate personified, basically. Day to day life with no promise of it getting better.
When the fear toxin cloud hits the narrows, he's outside among the crowd. This man has a rather big fear of clowns.
Of course, given how Crane's fear toxin acts in Begins, he gets a more intense vision than you'd expect. He sees people as walking skulls, with their lips stretched open over the bone, and makeup bleeding out of their eyes. They shout at him, "Why so serious?!" repeatedly.
After receiving the antidote, he still can't shake the image. He's cracked. They're stuck in his head. They won't leave. "Why so serious?" echoes in his dreams.
After about a week, he can't take it anymore. He needs to prove them wrong. He needs to smile, just one more time. But he can't be alive and do that. That'd just be insane. There's no more happiness in his future, alive anyway.
((This is where things get a tad unrealistic))
The inevitable happens, he takes out a knife, he does his best work. He passes out.
He wakes up in his own filth shaking and humiliated and lower than the lowest of the low. He manages to fix himself up (stitching and whatnot) and realizes that the ultimate joke is a failed suicide. So, he decides to try again.
This time, however, he'll need to make sure he can't fail. And the only way he figures that can happen is if he kills everyone else first. If he burns down the whole world, there won't be anything to stop him from being caught in the fire.
He commits double homicide, and he leaves his calling card; thus the Batman Begins sequel tease scene.
IMO, this idea is a good way to show off the "Batman and Joker are two sides of the same coin" idea.
Bruce becomes Batman to channel his rage and live on without cracking, Joker becomes Joker so he can kill and eventually be killed.
Bruce uses his fear to protect people, Joker uses his fear to terrify and kill people. ETC.
ANYWAY,
I've gotten good feedback on that idea, so I figured I'd just post it for the sake of the opinion of my fellow ledgers.
Thoughts?
(Be nice, please)
