Post by Killshot Caine on Aug 18, 2011 3:40:31 GMT -5
1.Batgirl's movement reading is no different from Radar Sense or Spider-Sense.It's not full proof.So if Batgirl has comparable speed to her she will still get tagged.As shown in comics you don't have to be as fast as X-23 or even have any speed feats to hit Cassandra Cain.
I wouldn't say it's bad writing just because she never slit a skilled fighters throat.
I know this, and I also know that Laura isn't Wolverine. This was just a comparison Logan couldn't handle Mister X because he could predict his movements and was unable to land a single hit.
I haven't seen anything from Laura that would make me think otherwise. She rarely uses that skill and rarely faces skilled martial artists. Lady D, Daken, and Logan are the only ones I know of and she never beat any of them. We also know who trained her and he doesn't have any feats to his name to say that Laura was trained by one of the greatest martial artists or anything like that. Based on that I would think Cass is the better fighter of the two.
5.What you're saying about Cassandra Cain being tagged by characters who have enhanced speed or reaction isn't true because Onyx,Poison Ivy,Black Canary,Mad Dog,etc. Don't have enhanced speed.
Poison Ivy? Seriously? Please don't bring people up who aren't even skilled fighters, that can't be anything other than pis.
Black Canary wasn't even in a spar she just randomly told Cass to come at her like she meant it and then hit her using one of Lady Shiva's moves.
Mad Dog was after she went days without sleeping or eating and accumulated more damage before even facing him.
None of these people beat her either. At least not in a fair fight. I honestly dislike the argument that Laura wins just because Cass can be tagged.
1.Cassandra Cain isn't untouchable.There is nothing more to say on the matter.X-23 can and will tag Cassandra Cain.There's nothing to even argue about there.Tagging Cassandra Cain has nothing to do with move reading.Only the fact that HER OWN move reading isn't precog..it's not 100% effective on anyone and she's also not superhuman as far as speed is concerned.
2.Mister X's fight with Wolverine has nothing to do with this fight..at all.Mister X is a telepath, Cassandra Cain isn't.
3.Nobody is making a skill argument for X-23 so I don't know what you're going on and on about skill for.
4.You're making alot of excuses for Cassandra Cain getting tagged.I also never said any of those characters beat her only that they tagged her..which they did.Beating her has nothing to do with my argument.What does "Black Canary wasn't even in a spar mean?" Black Canary tagged Cassandra.Period.There's no excuse for it.She didn't blind side her.Since when is "sparring" an excuse to get hit? You're telling me Cassandra let Onyx hit her because she was sparring with her? What does sparring have to do with speed?
5.The fact is..Cass has no defense for Adamantium claws any swipe could cost Cain a limb or an eye or anything.It's not likely that Laura is going to end this quickly but it's inevitable.X-23 is more capable of hurting Cassandra Cain then the other way around is what i'm saying.Cass also isn't capable of KO'ing X-23 anyway.So she really has no chance of winning without some type of prep or weaponry that will effect X-23's healing factor.Characters who regen are extremely hard to KO in the Marvel U.You would be hard pressed to find or name a character who has KO'd X-23 especially one that isn't superhuman in strength.