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Post by ckal on Oct 3, 2011 11:32:08 GMT -5
I watched that 15 minute gameplay video of Asura against Wyzen you posted on the first page.
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Post by ckal on Oct 5, 2011 0:57:22 GMT -5
1) I hope that was the tutorial. But even still, it's not hard to figure out how to press a button when it appears on screen.
2) I don't play God of War.
3) Idk, I enjoy games that have some kind of depth and complexity to it and it's combat.
That's completely fine if you like it. Just not my thing, that's all.
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Post by ckal on Oct 5, 2011 2:37:51 GMT -5
I get the idea, but the fact that I watched 15 min of 'Full Demo Gameplay" is either misleading, mislabeled, or an accurate description of what I'm seeing.
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Post by Dane on Oct 5, 2011 9:41:35 GMT -5
Nothing personal, but that game looks like it would have been bad 10 years ago.
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Post by Gender on Oct 5, 2011 11:20:00 GMT -5
1) I hope that was the tutorial. But even still, it's not hard to figure out how to press a button when it appears on screen. 2) I don't play God of War. 3) Idk, I enjoy games that have some kind of depth and complexity to it and it's combat. That's completely fine if you like it. Just not my thing, that's all. 1). It's what they had playable at _______ con in Japan if I recall, which for the most part was QTEs. I'm thinking it will be somewhat of a tutorial, given it looks to be set up as one. It isn't supposed to be hard, it's a quick time event. It is pretty much a cutscene that prompts you to do click on things so you still feel connected to the actual game. There doing the same thing with FF: XIII-2 and it's been rather common feature in gaming as of late. 2). Then I find it unlikely your'll like this game then, but I was going to point out, Square and X being the big two for fights in said game as far as I can imagine, along with it's share of QTEs. 3. I won't be able to tell you if this game is complex, has depth, or the like till I actually play it myself. But if it's anything like the GU series, then it should. Well I had to step into defend it when you were pretty much putting it down for something that really wasn't it's full gameplay.It's fine if isn't your cup of tea, but you get the idea. I get the idea, but the fact that I watched 15 min of 'Full Demo Gameplay" is either misleading, mislabeled, or an accurate description of what I'm seeing. For the Demo from E3, that was it's demo. After beating down the God finger you finish that little bit of playability. It doesn't even have a release date yet, outside "Somewhere in 2012". Nothing personal, but that game looks like it would have been bad 10 years ago. People probably shouldn't be hating on a game that won't be on shelves for months, especially given how old some of the videos I've posted so far(Edit: And when I say this, I'm referring to the 2010 one that seemingly doesn't match up with what videos are being released now). Maybe we can wait before we call this game something that would suck if it came out in 2001, cuz you know, that is a god awful exaggeration(Edit: I could post dozens of video comparisons as to why that is the case. Visually, action wise and what gameplay we do see, probably would have curbstomped PS2 and Xbox friends in the same categories, if you want to insist otherwise, more power to you). I think it's going to be a fun game, if it isn't and it's crap I'll be the first one to announce it is. I'm somewhat curious to know which of the videos you watched that made you come to that conclusion Dane. |
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Post by Dane on Oct 5, 2011 11:48:10 GMT -5
I don't care if you don't share my opinion but you won't change what it is.
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Post by ckal on Oct 5, 2011 15:46:18 GMT -5
I don't believe he is talking just about graphics (which looked subpar in that 15 min. video), but the game play and cut scenes and dialogue.
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Post by Matezoide on Oct 5, 2011 16:16:18 GMT -5
I don't believe he is talking just about graphics (which looked subpar in that 15 min. video), but the game play and cut scenes and dialogue. Had this game been released at 2001 exactly like it is now,people would be too busy shitting bricks at the graphics (and the over-the-top protagonist) to pay any attention to any flaw it might have,besides,it looks way more complex than any similar game that was released that year. It is perfectly ok that Dane thinks it looks like shit,it is his opnion,but claiming it would be considered bad in 2001 is absurd. As for that battle being just QTEs,it looked like just a prologue to me and it was probaly on the easiest setting....prety much every game is on the easiest setting during events,IIRC. |
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Post by ckal on Oct 5, 2011 19:59:49 GMT -5
Thats because the game itself isn't finished or you might not be a fan of the type of art / designs being used in said game. Like I said, we won't see a finished product for months into 2012. No, the environmental textures are all completely flat and lack any distinguishing features. OK I'll use Diablo 3 as an example. That game isn't coming out until Q1 2012 and it looks a hell of a lot better than this game, completely disregarding the differences in the type of game. |
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Post by Gender on Oct 5, 2011 20:48:28 GMT -5
I don't believe he is talking just about graphics (which looked subpar in that 15 min. video), but the game play and cut scenes and dialogue. I'm not just talking about graphics, there wouldn't really be quite a game like it in 2001. I can say that without a doubt. Thats because the game itself isn't finished or you might not be a fan of the type of art / designs being used in said game. Like I said, we won't see a finished product for months into 2012. But there is something we can know for sure: -Cyberconnect has been making games for a fairly long time, their ninja storm stuff is looked upon favorably and I love the heck out of their GU series, so they can tell a story and make fun games. - Capcom is a corporate money whore. This game wouldn't have seen the light of day unless they expected to make bank off it. I don't believe he is talking just about graphics (which looked subpar in that 15 min. video), but the game play and cut scenes and dialogue. Had this game been released at 2001 exactly like it is now,people would be too busy shitting bricks at the graphics (and the over-the-top protagonist) to pay any attention to any flaw it might have,besides,it looks way more complex than any similar game that was released that year. It is perfectly ok that Dane thinks it looks like shit,it is his opnion,but claiming it would be considered bad in 2001 is absurd. As for that battle being just QTEs,it looked like just a prologue to me and it was probaly on the easiest setting....prety much every game is on the easiest setting during events,IIRC. My thoughts exactly, on all points. I think we are all a tad bit spoiled with current console games, completely forgetting what was around not even a decade ago. Just as we easily just as forget within the next 10 years. I'm not just going off on Dane for the heck of it, whenever someone says something that extreme involving gaming I have to try and remind said individuals of what games we used to love are rather dated and likely not as good as a lot of releases now on consoles. I don't care if you don't share my opinion but you won't change what it is. Not sharing an opinion isn't the problem; Its just I remember 2001 games, I'm just not too sure you do. And while I was hoping you elaborate what you viewed that brought you to such an opinion, but I guess that also is not going to happen. Just to get your mind back in the day: 2000: 2001: Id post max payne, but I like AVP2 a lot more for online. And then you have Asura's Wrath. 2012: Your trying to tell me this game would be lacking nearly a decade ago. The original God of War didn't even hit shelves till 2005. Thats because the game itself isn't finished or you might not be a fan of the type of art / designs being used in said game. Like I said, we won't see a finished product for months into 2012. No, the environmental textures are all completely flat and lack any distinguishing features. OK I'll use Diablo 3 as an example. That game isn't coming out until Q1 2012 and it looks a hell of a lot better than this game, completely disregarding the differences in the type of game. I was under the impression you were talking about the characters, since all this early stuff for the most part focuses on their designs and fights. Albeit I'm not seeing this texture-less landscape that is completely flat, but it is indeed seemingly relatively clear of things in boss fights, sure. Although I guess when your talking winter climates, mountainous cold areas, deserts(just after a giant finger comes crashing from the heavens likely annihilating everyone in said area on atmospheric re-entry crumbling it) or techno-floors on flying ships with giant circle cycles or in space / moon: plants and trees are a must? But you are indeed right, they couldn't be more different types of games, but I'll reserve my judgement on the environment when we actually see some of it, maybe I'll be able to grasp the complete void of anything in them apparently then. Less star destroyers, more trees and plants Asura: Edit: I think I might have to call it quits on defending this game, I think it's pretty fair to assume this isn't your type of game, much less Dane's and likely this whole conversation will keep going on based off stuff that isn't even finished. Side note, Asura's Wrath isn't going to be coming out anywhere close to as soon as Diablo 3 is. |
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Post by ckal on Oct 5, 2011 22:37:21 GMT -5
Not sure what the rant about landscapes is about, so I should clarify. The game, in these videos, is seemingly devoid of any depth and detail to the textures (mostly outside of the character models). But that is probably just because this game is in earlier stages and they have not completed this aspect of digital programming yet.
That's my last post on this subject.
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Post by Dane on Oct 7, 2011 5:27:53 GMT -5
Gender What I stated was an opinion. If you don't agree with it, that's fine. If you think I'm uninformed on what constitutes a good video game then you're flat-out fanboy blind. Want to go back to a 2001 for a game that Asura's Wrath won't even be mentioned in the same breath as in terms of quality? Final Fantasy X. Yes, I do remember 10 years ago. That game in all fields, does not compare to the quality of other titles that will come out in 2012 along side it. It looks like it is from a bygone age and that's what I said. Graphically: Diablo 3 and Mass Effect 3 alone make that look like Minecraft. Gameplay: Everything about that looks B-Grade PS2 era in terms of game mechanics. Story: Looks completely terrible. Games from 15 years ago made more sense in 10 seconds than it did in the 3 trailers I watched. From what I can gather you're a massive anime/manga fan and maybe non-sensical dialogue is something you look for in a game. It's not what I look for. But more than that it's not that it isn't "someone else's sort of game", it looks low quality. That's all I said. If you're willing to accept your opinion differs to other people's opinions then thats fine. If you're going to get butthurt when someone disagrees with you, I don't know what can help you there. It's not a personal dig at you, all I said was that game looks like it is from an age that has past in terms of quality. From what I've seen, that's true.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 7, 2011 16:39:26 GMT -5
Why do anime characters always run with their arms dragging behind them? You lose most of your speed doing that.
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Post by Gender on Oct 8, 2011 21:49:48 GMT -5
Gender What I stated was an opinion. If you don't agree with it, that's fine. If you think I'm uninformed on what constitutes a good video game then you're flat-out fanboy blind. Want to go back to a 2001 for a game that Asura's Wrath won't even be mentioned in the same breath as in terms of quality? Final Fantasy X. Yes, I do remember 10 years ago. That game in all fields, does not compare to the quality of other titles that will come out in 2012 along side it. It looks like it is from a bygone age and that's what I said. Graphically: Diablo 3 and Mass Effect 3 alone make that look like Minecraft. Gameplay: Everything about that looks B-Grade PS2 era in terms of game mechanics. Story: Looks completely terrible. Games from 15 years ago made more sense in 10 seconds than it did in the 3 trailers I watched. From what I can gather you're a massive anime/manga fan and maybe non-sensical dialogue is something you look for in a game. It's not what I look for. But more than that it's not that it isn't "someone else's sort of game", it looks low quality. That's all I said. If you're willing to accept your opinion differs to other people's opinions then thats fine. If you're going to get butthurt when someone disagrees with you, I don't know what can help you there. It's not a personal dig at you, all I said was that game looks like it is from an age that has past in terms of quality. From what I've seen, that's true. Sounds like you would absolutely hate God Hand, anyways; I get that you have an opinion, I just think the opinion "this game would have been bad 10 years ago" even as it is now, was ridiculous. Even if we are going the route of comparing it to the JRPG goodness that was Final Fantasy 10. But now reading this response post and critique, your a bit prone to exaggeration(more so looking towards the Minecraft comparison) since I'm taking you literally. Although the "bygone age" or "age past in terms of quality" in comparison to other titles being released the next year would have been much more acceptable to read. I'd say you gathered wrong, but that would require me to get some idea of what your percieve to be "massive" fan of anything is. I like watching anime and reading manga, but in no shape or form do I consider myself even the most knowledgable person in that regard on this site in either. Is my room lined in shonen posters, with a chibi army of figures defending my counters? Not so much, but do I have a little drawer with some manga and a few series on DVD that I actually liked. I don't really make all that much effort to disguise what I do like and if I really enjoy something, your'll probably find out about it with a quick look at my post history or in this current case my avatar / sig and the like. Depending on how honest said users are, you can gather a great deal about their own personal beliefs / what they like, I did the same to Rox much to her distress. Asura's Wrath just caught my eye, if it turns out to be a complete failure at gamming(which would come to me as a shock given I'm a Cyberconnect fan) I probably won't be getting it and I don't quite expect it to uncrown .hack//GU in my eyes, ever as my personal favorite series of games. Whether your completely right or it turns out to be something that holds it's own in 2012, we will find out. Why do anime characters always run with their arms dragging behind them? You lose most of your speed doing that. I guess it could depend why. For one thing it is much easier to draw / animate those arm's moving behind them, just having to deal with hair / legs or just to give that impression "Woa that's fast! Look at Inuyasha's arms!". Or maybe said author / animation team thinks it looks cool. Albeit it's not like a staple for any animation / manga character to be running with their arms extended behind them and there is a !@#$ton more things to look at with a "wtf?" expression in anime than that. I thought video-games were meant to be....i dunno....FUN? Lies & Slander. They are meant to be huge time sinks for us to forget about reality and go on some sort of ridiculous adventure, preferably in a world with a lot of pretty girls and guys, with the occasional giant monster thing to kill! |
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Post by Matezoide on Oct 9, 2011 12:46:12 GMT -5
I thought video-games were meant to be....i dunno....FUN?
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Post by Dane on Oct 9, 2011 14:27:34 GMT -5
Why do anime characters always run with their arms dragging behind them? You lose most of your speed doing that. Also you'd lose balance and fall over if you tried due to the complete lack of compensating upper body motions to match the force exerted by the lower body.  |
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 9, 2011 14:33:58 GMT -5
Why do anime characters always run with their arms dragging behind them? You lose most of your speed doing that. Also you'd lose balance and fall over if you tried due to the complete lack of compensating upper body motions to match the force exerted by the lower body. Waaaaaaay back in high school. There was an anime girl in my gym class that was so into it, that I think it started to actually encroach on her perception of reality. We had to do a 20 meter sprint during one of our physical evaluation classes and she ran exactly the same way. Arms forced straight right behind her. She had the slowest timed run of course... It was a little hard to watch. Interestingly enough, the guy with the best time was the biggest Tongan in the school. I always assumed he was just a fattie but it turns out he was a fucking monster. |
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Post by Gender on Oct 9, 2011 14:49:04 GMT -5
Waaaaaaay back in high school. There was an anime girl in my gym class that was so into it, that I think it started to actually encroach on her perception of reality. We had to do a 20 meter sprint during one of our physical evaluation classes and she ran exactly the same way. Arms forced straight right behind her. She had the slowest timed run of course... It was a little hard to watch. Interestingly enough, the guy with the best time was the biggest Tongan in the school. I always assumed he was just a fattie but it turns out he was a fucking monster. She must have not been doing it right. Proper form requires lines to appear as they reach blurring speeds.  And if she was really good, she would hit warp speed:  |
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 9, 2011 14:56:09 GMT -5
Lol damn. Pics did not show up.
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Post by ckal on Oct 10, 2011 10:07:43 GMT -5
Lol.
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