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Post by Erik-El on Dec 3, 2010 12:51:13 GMT -5
The Walking Dead is taking itself in a completely different direction than the comics now. But I do not see that as a bad thing. It is still flarking awesome.
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Post by Admin on Dec 3, 2010 15:52:21 GMT -5
The writing team was fired, btw. It doesn't seem like THAT big of an issue, because to my understanding, they only wrote 2-3 or the actual episodes.
I was mixed on the latest issue. I loved the development with the CDC and how it was done, but the interactions between everyone before then really didn't feel up to par with the previous episodes, IMO.
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Post by Erik-El on Dec 3, 2010 15:57:44 GMT -5
The writing team was fired, btw. It doesn't seem like THAT big of an issue, because to my understanding, they only wrote 2-3 or the actual episodes. I was mixed on the latest issue. I loved the development with the CDC and how it was done, but the interactions between everyone before then really didn't feel up to par with the previous episodes, IMO. Shane Shane Shane..... Spoiler for episode 5. The sicky was going to blow Rick away. He took much less pushing than he did in the comics to get to that point. I would go as far as to say he wanted Rick to die when the outbreak first happened.
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Post by cm24 on Dec 3, 2010 16:03:25 GMT -5
How many episodes are in season 1?
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Post by Admin on Dec 3, 2010 16:03:34 GMT -5
The writing team was fired, btw. It doesn't seem like THAT big of an issue, because to my understanding, they only wrote 2-3 or the actual episodes. I was mixed on the latest issue. I loved the development with the CDC and how it was done, but the interactions between everyone before then really didn't feel up to par with the previous episodes, IMO. Shane Shane Shane..... Spoiler for episode 5. The sicky was going to blow Rick away. He took much less pushing than he did in the comics to get to that point. I would go as far as to say he wanted Rick to die when the outbreak first happened. That part shocked me so much. It barely took anything to bring him to that point, and it was a completely drastic move on his behalf. I get it, he was happy having his wife and his kid as his "family," and the situation is bleak, but to immediately almost follow through with KILLING HIM (his BEST flarking friend) after just one remark? I think they should have taken more time to build that up. I do, however, like how the entire episode was oriented around them reaching for hope, and the entire time we see how there simply is no hope.
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Post by Admin on Dec 3, 2010 16:04:26 GMT -5
AW, there's 6 episodes. The final one is on this Sunday. The next season will have many more.
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Post by Erik-El on Dec 3, 2010 16:11:23 GMT -5
Shane Shane Shane..... Spoiler for episode 5. The sicky was going to blow Rick away. He took much less pushing than he did in the comics to get to that point. I would go as far as to say he wanted Rick to die when the outbreak first happened. That part shocked me so much. It barely took anything to bring him to that point, and it was a completely drastic move on his behalf. I get it, he was happy having his wife and his kid as his "family," and the situation is bleak, but to immediately almost follow through with KILLING HIM (his BEST flarking friend) after just one remark? I think they should have taken more time to build that up. I do, however, like how the entire episode was oriented around them reaching for hope, and the entire time we see how there simply is no hope. I think this Shane has always wanted Rick out of the way. I think he intentionally abandoned Rick in the hospital months ago and has been bitter about losing everything he gained from his move. In the first episode, when he and Rick were talking about Rick's marriage, if you look at the subtleties in Shane's face as he brought it up, you can see he always had a thing for Lori. When the zombie thing happened, he saw his opportunity to have her. You are right though. It took almost nothing at all to bring him to murder. He is going to try it again for sure. Even though Lori effectively hates him now for lying to her.
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Post by Admin on Dec 3, 2010 16:15:01 GMT -5
I guess we'll see how it plays out.
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Post by Erik-El on Dec 3, 2010 16:18:15 GMT -5
I guess we'll see how it plays out. In the comics, Shane was less evil but just as severe and misguided with guilt over lives lost and 'love' for Lori. You must read the comics. In the series, Shane is what I would call a bad person.
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Post by Admin on Dec 3, 2010 16:22:18 GMT -5
I guess we'll see how it plays out. In the comics, Shane was less evil but just as severe and misguided with guilt over lives lost and 'love' for Lori. You must read the comics. In the series, Shane is what I would call a bad person. I've read the first issue (free on their website). IMHO, I think all of the changes they made were for the better and really gave it more life.
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Post by cm24 on Dec 3, 2010 16:22:35 GMT -5
AW, there's 6 episodes. The final one is on this Sunday. The next season will have many more. Ok thanks.
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Post by Erik-El on Dec 4, 2010 14:25:51 GMT -5
In the comics, Shane was less evil but just as severe and misguided with guilt over lives lost and 'love' for Lori. You must read the comics. In the series, Shane is what I would call a bad person. I've read the first issue (free on their website). IMHO, I think all of the changes they made were for the better and really gave it more life. I am going to get someone to help you with the others.
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Post by Gender on Dec 5, 2010 23:41:27 GMT -5
I think this Shane has always wanted Rick out of the way. I think he intentionally abandoned Rick in the hospital months ago and has been bitter about losing everything he gained from his move. And the writers have thrown a monkey wrench in that with the flash back at the start of the season finale. Buwahahaha! Spoilers: Shane is essentially begging Rick to wake up, listens for a hearbeat after the machines shut down and leaves when he doesn't hear anything. But he does at least close the door and drag the bed infront of the door giving Rick at least a a bit of defense against any dumb zombie trying to get to him. Although getting wasted and wanting to !@#$ lori despite the "No's" does make him look very desperate and crushed in depression.
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Post by spoilsport on Dec 6, 2010 0:11:44 GMT -5
Finale was....alright, but I see lots of potential for next season. Shane's showing serious signs of instability and there's plenty of theories lying around for what the doc whispered to Rick. My favourite one being
SPOILERSSSSSS FOR COMICCCCCCCCC/SERIES
that you don't need to be bit to turn, you just need to be dead (everyone is "The Walking Dead"). Could be a crazy wham episode if that's the case.
END SPOILERS
Looking forward to next season.
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Post by Erik-El on Dec 6, 2010 12:41:06 GMT -5
@azure Kite:
Discussing that spoiler:
He had to have heard a heartbeat. Otherwise he would not have bothered blocking off Rick's room. Unless he is deaf, a heartbeat is hard to miss when your head is right on the chest. Not to mention that if Rick's heart was not beating, he would have died.
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Post by Gender on Dec 6, 2010 14:07:30 GMT -5
Discussing that spoiler:
Like Shane said, you had machine gun fire, walkers all over the place and people dieing left and right. That might have been why he couldn't hear the heart beat. He was there though, begging Rick to wake up, trying to grab a nurse to help him get Rick out of there since he didn't know what to do. But when the power went out, when he couldn't hear the heartbeat, he left. Shane doesn't come off as intelligent enough to know what to do with Rick much less what the machines did.
As for why he blocked off the room with the bed, perhaps he thought Rick might have survived or at least wanted to keep Rick's room zombie clear. Or it just could have been a plot driven move without much thought to make sure Rick wakes up and not surrounded by zombies.
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Post by Erik-El on Dec 6, 2010 14:15:31 GMT -5
@azure:
Discussing spoiler:
I still remain unconvinced. He might have thought he wanted Rick to wake up, but a heartbeat is hard to miss when your ear is right on the chest, even with random noise. You can see that he wanted Lori since before the outbreak started. Even if it was a subconscious act, it was still an act of abandonment.
Then there is the blocking of the room, which only makes sense if he thought Rick was still alive.
Plus the look of dismay and disappointment when Rick turned up alive. That was not happiness on his face when Rick was holding Lori.
Even if Shane did not know he did it at the time, he left Rick to fend for himself. He also told Lori that Rick died, not that he may have died.
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Post by Admin on Dec 6, 2010 14:16:23 GMT -5
Everyone I spoke with thought that last ep was either "eh" or bad," but I flarking loved it. Honestly, I'm glad they changed Shane from the comic counter-part. We already have the flat-out "bad guy" (mister hillbilly one-arm), and making Shane more of a "man who slowly falls apart" is more appealing and emotional to the viewer, IMO. I agree with Mate that he honestly tried to save Rick, but legitmately thought he was screwed and/or dead.
As for what the scientist whispered, I think it was....
SPOILERS
That Rick's wife is preggers. After all, he took a BLOOD TEST from everyone. Plus, that just helps boil the whole triangle, because I'm sure Rick is under the belief it's his baby, but Shane will likely think it's his, too, and when that comes to light, it's going to be ugly.
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Post by Erik-El on Dec 6, 2010 14:27:10 GMT -5
@everyone:
Lol. Maybe I should watch the episode for myself before I try to argue it.
@k4tz:
In the comic, Shane was not really a villain either. In the comic, both he AND Lori left Rick and in her moment of weakness and loneliness, took Shane to bed. In the show, she only banged Shane because she was told Rick was dead.
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Post by Admin on Dec 6, 2010 14:29:01 GMT -5
@everyone: Lol. Maybe I should watch the episode for myself before I try to argue it. @k4tz: In the comic, Shane was not really a villain either. In the comic, both he AND Lori left Rick and in her moment of weakness and loneliness, took Shane to bed. In the show, she only banged Shane because she was told Rick was dead. You had me convinced before that shane was always a dick in the comic. I'm glad to see he really wasn't in the show...At least at first, lol.
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