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Post by Prophet626 on Mar 26, 2012 7:51:11 GMT -5
Deadpool Vs Daredevil
Rules
Pre-Way Deadpool
Dareedevil 616 Pre-Shadowland
Random encounter
standard equipment
Win via KO or Death
Location: New York, Unpopulated, 10 meters
Who wins and WHY?
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Post by Power NeXus on Mar 26, 2012 12:37:12 GMT -5
Deadpool wins. His healing factor just gives him too much of an edge. The only kind of attack DD could pull off that would have any effectiveness at all would be nerve strikes.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Mar 26, 2012 21:05:09 GMT -5
DP's coackroach powers carry him to victory.
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Post by Painkiller on Mar 27, 2012 1:55:28 GMT -5
Deadpool wins for the reasons Nexus stated.
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Post by samzed on May 20, 2012 4:34:59 GMT -5
Nerve strikes might not cut it. Kraven attempted to use one on DP, didnt work.
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2012 9:52:28 GMT -5
When was that? Are you talking about DP 11? Because IIRC it did work, just not for long. The vest stunned him and the strike dropped him. Going after Harry gave Deadpool the chance to recover from him. (as it did it the parodied issue in ASM)
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Post by Dane on May 20, 2012 10:20:08 GMT -5
Daredevil crushes windpipe, thread.
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Post by samzed on May 22, 2012 21:56:35 GMT -5
When was that? Are you talking about DP 11? Because IIRC it did work, just not for long. The vest stunned him and the strike dropped him. Going after Harry gave Deadpool the chance to recover from him. (as it did it the parodied issue in ASM) Yep DP11. But the strike didn't drop him, he was already down from the vest attack and the strike was supposed to keep him down, but it didn't. |
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Post by Admin on May 22, 2012 22:08:21 GMT -5
When was that? Are you talking about DP 11? Because IIRC it did work, just not for long. The vest stunned him and the strike dropped him. Going after Harry gave Deadpool the chance to recover from him. (as it did it the parodied issue in ASM) Yep DP11. But the strike didn't drop him, he was already down from the vest attack and the strike was supposed to keep him down, but it didn't. It worked. It doesn't keep them paralyzed for a significant amount of time. It kept him down long enough for Sergei to get Harry. The very same thing happened with Spider-Man (who obviously lacks the accelerated healing factor to his degree), but just played out in a different way. |
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Post by samzed on May 25, 2012 13:07:08 GMT -5
Yep DP11. But the strike didn't drop him, he was already down from the vest attack and the strike was supposed to keep him down, but it didn't. It worked. It doesn't keep them paralyzed for a significant amount of time. It kept him down long enough for Sergei to get Harry. The very same thing happened with Spider-Man (who obviously lacks the accelerated healing factor to his degree), but just played out in a different way. Spider-man is superhumanly durable so it doesn't keep him down for as long as it would someone with peak human durablity. Im going to have to re-read that issue but im pretty sure Kraven hit DP when he was down and said that the attack is supposed to paralise him, instead Wade got up the second he recovered from the vest attack. Maybe I remember it wrong. Gimme some time to check. |
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Post by samzed on May 25, 2012 13:30:36 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on May 25, 2012 15:19:08 GMT -5
I own the issue, so there's no need for scans.
A) As I've already said, he was down for pretty much as long as Spider-Man, who suffered the EXACT same attacks (vest then nerve strike).
B) An absence of a comment surrounding the strike doesn't mean it accomplished nothing. It's not something that's going to keep him down for the count, just momentarily to follow-up IN COMBINATION with the vest messing with the target's brain. Obviously he couldn't follow-up because he spotted Harry, just like in ASM (although it plays out differently here).
C) He's used a far more effective move on Spider-Man before and shortly after Spider-Man was able to recover from it (in the Museum). The vest obviously was the critical part, but in my opinion to say the nerve strike didn't do anything is simply false to me.
D) No need in carrying this on, really. You're not going to convince me otherwise (seeing as I've read both issues numerous times), and I sincerely doubt I'll change your mind either.
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Post by Admin on May 25, 2012 16:52:17 GMT -5
I'll be blunt: we don't see eye-to-eye when it comes to Deadpool, so perhaps we should restrict our conversations to other individuals  |
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Post by samzed on May 25, 2012 23:32:37 GMT -5
Fair enough. I probably shouldn't have said that nerve strike "did nothing" not saying that Deadpool didn't feel it. But it's a really bad idea to use this instance as a proof that nerve strikes can keep him down either. Seeing how he gets up seconds later, after being hit by a forcedraining ray on top of everything. Anyway, Wolverine has feats of no-selling pressure point attacks because of his HF. So it's not farfetched imo. But like you said, let's agree to disagree.
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Post by Prophet626 on May 25, 2012 23:37:24 GMT -5
I think samzed is right, I looked back at the issue's both Deadpool and ASM. Deadpool recovered quicker then Spiderman did, In the Deadpool issue he interrupted the conversation between Kraven and Osborn by kneeing Kraven in the face while in ASM Kraven finished his conversation with Osborn and still had time to gloat over defeating Spiderman. In ASM Spiderman state's "that ray gizmo is finally wearing off" and in the Deadpool issue Deadpool states ""healing factor's over-riding the effects of the beam" so Deadpool recovered from the beam quicker then Spiderman. As for the nerve strike, all Deadpool said was "whoa... Major ice-cream headache"
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Post by samzed on May 26, 2012 0:01:25 GMT -5
Thanks, man. Weird, I don't remember how that story ended for Spider-man and im 100% sure ive read. Just a really long time ago.
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Post by Admin on May 26, 2012 2:20:19 GMT -5
You're right. He does recover a few sentences before Spider-Man. That's my mistake. Still, my point was merely disagreeing with the implication that the nerve strike didn't do anything.
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Post by Prophet626 on May 26, 2012 2:33:05 GMT -5
K4tz- What do you think a nerve strike should do to someone like Deadpool? (just outta curiosity)
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Post by Admin on May 26, 2012 3:08:20 GMT -5
I think it should have an effect, albeit much shorter than against someone without a healing factor.
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