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Post by nelomaxwell on Apr 12, 2012 13:31:29 GMT -5
Fight takes place in NYC, on a counter earth where no one but the two teams exist.
JSA Invaders
Alan Scott vs Torch
Jay Garrick vs Spitfire
Wild cat vs Captain America
Sandman vs Bucky
Hourman Vs Union Jack
Hawkman vs Namor
Morals are on
All people have their classic gear.
Win by KO
No one is Blood lusted
No BFR.
Which team wins and why?
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Post by Painkiller on Apr 13, 2012 7:47:15 GMT -5
Wrong forum.
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Post by Beatboks on Apr 13, 2012 8:56:22 GMT -5
Alan Scott vs Torch Alan Should win this. While in his original GA appearances, he had no where near the feats of the SA and BA he could still transmute matter, grow and shrink and make others do it.
Jay Garrick vs Spitfire Jay is quite simply a LOT faster
Wild cat vs Captain America Steve takes Ted apart
Sandman vs Bucky Wes takes the side kick I'm afreais. if it had been Snady I'd go the other way.
Hourman Vs Union Jack I'd say Union Jack in a close one
Hawkman vs Namor Namor tears Carter apart.
That leaves Alan, Jay and Wes against Steve, Joseph and namor. I just see Jay as too quick.
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Post by creator on Apr 13, 2012 10:43:20 GMT -5
Alan Scott vs Torch Alan Should win this. While in his original GA appearances, he had no where near the feats of the SA and BA he could still transmute matter, grow and shrink and make others do it. Jay Garrick vs Spitfire Jay is quite simply a LOT faster Wild cat vs Captain America Steve takes Ted apart Sandman vs Bucky Wes takes the side kick I'm afreais. if it had been Snady I'd go the other way. Hourman Vs Union Jack I'd say Union Jack in a close one Hawkman vs Namor Namor tears Carter apart. That leaves Alan, Jay and Wes against Steve, Joseph and namor. I just see Jay as too quick. I agree except I am questioning Union Jack beating Hourman. Although UJ is a superior fighter, HM's physicals grant an overwhelming advanatage. However UJ does have a hangun and that could be the tipping factor. |
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Post by Beatboks on Apr 13, 2012 20:30:43 GMT -5
hourman is really only in the 2 ton range based on original GA feats. his speed was 60 mph . I dont see him as that much better physically. his only real advantage as I see it is his not feeling pain for the hour. I certainly wouldn't say there's an overwhelming advantage physically, I'd say UJ just behind or even( though unlike for the JSA i dont have issues of UJ in the GA so basing this more on later feats). he didn't display higher strength levels until well after
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Post by nelomaxwell on Apr 14, 2012 20:58:46 GMT -5
Thanks beats and Creator, didn't know how well this would go over.
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Post by creator on Apr 15, 2012 10:07:26 GMT -5
hourman is really only in the 2 ton range based on original GA feats. his speed was 60 mph . I dont see him as that much better physically. his only real advantage as I see it is his not feeling pain for the hour. I certainly wouldn't say there's an overwhelming advantage physically, I'd say UJ just behind or even( though unlike for the JSA i dont have issues of UJ in the GA so basing this more on later feats). he didn't display higher strength levels until well after Hourman's stats (strength, durability, speed) are at least 2x greater than UJ's. To me this is more than significant. |
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Post by Beatboks on Apr 15, 2012 10:37:05 GMT -5
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Post by nelomaxwell on Apr 15, 2012 21:10:15 GMT -5
Those showings are a pretty good argument in your favor Beats. He got put down by a bottle.
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Post by Beatboks on Apr 15, 2012 21:46:48 GMT -5
Yeah the same thing plays out in All Star Comics. In issue 3 he gets knocked out by fake Hourmen twice (who don't have miraclo) , in #4 cold cocked from behid, in issue 5 a barrel falls on him and knocks him out, in 6 he gets choked until passing out by a guy in a bear suit. etc etc.
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Post by nelomaxwell on Apr 15, 2012 22:10:26 GMT -5
Yeah the same thing plays out in All Star Comics. In issue 3 he gets knocked out by fake Hourmen twice (who don't have miraclo) , in #4 cold cocked from behid, in issue 5 a barrel falls on him and knocks him out, in 6 he gets choked until passing out by a guy in a bear suit. etc etc. I think Hourman is now my least favorite hero. That's pathetic. Just really. |
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Post by Beatboks on Apr 16, 2012 2:24:03 GMT -5
its relative to GA appearances of everyone. Spectre was immobilized by a paralysis ray.
you also have to remeber he was the first o the JSAers to fall out of publication ( the rest of those who left the team were because of the rule against. haracters who had their own solo dedicated title like Batman and Superman - e.g. Flash and GL)
once revived in the SA he was amped up as were all the others.
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Post by creator on Apr 16, 2012 6:17:26 GMT -5
I take your point but the first 2 images are not applicable unless UJ happens to have a T-rex in his pocket or happens to be using a Carbon Monoxide gas bomb (exhaust fumes). The pool ball head strike......I can't account for the dangerous do need for writers to portray the characters as vulnerable to add suspense to the story line. That was just sad! |
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Post by nelomaxwell on Apr 16, 2012 16:58:19 GMT -5
My Favorite has to be the bearsuit
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