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Post by Admin on May 31, 2012 19:34:32 GMT -5
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nelomaxwell
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Post by nelomaxwell on May 31, 2012 20:57:36 GMT -5
What's the new 52 Freeze Like? I can't buy the comic since i have no money.
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Post by Admin on May 31, 2012 21:08:05 GMT -5
He still has his freeze gun and can freeze through touch. He also used a "freeze grenade." His armor is good, but we saw this version of Freeze is absolutely vulnerable to physical attacks. Talon was giving him trouble, Todd stunned him with a pistol whip, and Nightwing temporarily downed him with a strike via his escrima to the shoulder.
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nelomaxwell
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Post by nelomaxwell on May 31, 2012 21:21:55 GMT -5
Damn poor mr. Freeze he's one of my fav villains. Cause he's tragic. I'd have to Say if DD, can get in and out. Which I know he can, he can take Freeze down, the problem comes from trading blows which a martial artist with no for knowledge of his opponent would do. That is where DD get's in trouble one touch freeze and he's over, depending on where of course. How long does the freezing last. Is it like frost bite level?
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 31, 2012 23:00:40 GMT -5
DD like a boss.
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Post by Prophet626 on Jun 1, 2012 18:46:25 GMT -5
Mr Freeze was almost taken out by an no name assassin, Daredevil got this easily..
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Post by Admin on Jun 1, 2012 18:49:56 GMT -5
Nothing we saw really implied the Talon was winning. We saw the Talon kick freeze once, but aside from that, it looked like a stalemate. And that same Talon managed to stab Red Hood in the head  |
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Post by Prophet626 on Jun 1, 2012 19:06:20 GMT -5
The kick make it look like Mr Freeze was on the defensive, so at the least, the Talon had the upper hand. Daredevil is better then both the Talon and Jason put together.
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Post by Admin on Jun 1, 2012 19:54:54 GMT -5
Also, it wasn't a no name assassin. They specifically said his name and had an entire back story, foo!
You're missing the point. I don't see how downplaying a Talon is an argument that'll help or hurt DD. We barely even saw that fight, and it was clear it was a stalemate (even though the cold should have made the Talon useless). It doesn't matter if we saw Talon landing one kick, it was clear Freeze was fine and the fight was stopped before we even got to see any more. Besides, we saw A LOT more of Freeze in Batman Annual 1.
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Post by Prophet626 on Jun 1, 2012 21:05:48 GMT -5
I'm not downplaying anything, you said yourself "vulnerable to physical attacks. Talon was giving him trouble" and what I'm saying is that Daredevil is far more skilled and has far more feats. Talon did kick Mr. Freeze and what it looked like, Talon next attack could of been fatal. Sorry I didn't get the hand book but he died at the end of that issue anyway.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 1, 2012 21:57:09 GMT -5
And that same Talon managed to stab Red Hood in the head not a feat, Red Hood sucks |
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Post by Prophet626 on Jun 1, 2012 22:03:02 GMT -5
And Jason did even think it could pierce his hood, so didn't even try to dodge.
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Post by Admin on Jun 2, 2012 0:49:33 GMT -5
I'm not downplaying anything, you said yourself "vulnerable to physical attacks. Talon was giving him trouble" and what I'm saying is that Daredevil is far more skilled and has far more feats. Talon did kick Mr. Freeze and what it looked like, Talon next attack could of been fatal. Sorry I didn't get the hand book but he died at the end of that issue anyway. You're missing my point. If you want to make a case for Daredevil, there are much stronger arguments than "a Talon kicked him." The kick clearly didn't even take a toll on Freeze, seeing as he was perfectly fine after that and talking during the strike. Get what I mean? |
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Post by Admin on Jun 2, 2012 0:49:59 GMT -5
And that same Talon managed to stab Red Hood in the head not a feat, Red Hood sucks Hey you, you're not allowed to remark on characters until you actually read a single issue of The New 52 |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 2, 2012 12:25:53 GMT -5
Hey you, you're not allowed to remark on characters until you actually read a single issue of The New 52 I don't need to read the New 52 to speak the truth of the suckdom that is Red Hood |
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Post by Prophet626 on Jun 2, 2012 23:33:54 GMT -5
I'm not downplaying anything, you said yourself "vulnerable to physical attacks. Talon was giving him trouble" and what I'm saying is that Daredevil is far more skilled and has far more feats. Talon did kick Mr. Freeze and what it looked like, Talon next attack could of been fatal. Sorry I didn't get the hand book but he died at the end of that issue anyway. You're missing my point. If you want to make a case for Daredevil, there are much stronger arguments than "a Talon kicked him." The kick clearly didn't even take a toll on Freeze, seeing as he was perfectly fine after that and talking during the strike. Get what I mean? (Read Batman annual) I've seen him in two issues now, the only things to go by are the Talon, Nightwing and Batman fight and he did look like was doing well against any of them. The times Freeze did get an upper just wouldn't work on Daredevil because of his senses. |
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Jun 2, 2012 23:57:32 GMT -5
So is New 52 Freeze like Arkham City Freeze?
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Post by Admin on Jun 3, 2012 0:06:32 GMT -5
You're missing my point. If you want to make a case for Daredevil, there are much stronger arguments than "a Talon kicked him." The kick clearly didn't even take a toll on Freeze, seeing as he was perfectly fine after that and talking during the strike. Get what I mean? (Read Batman annual) I've seen him in two issues now, the only things to go by are the Talon, Nightwing and Batman fight and he did look like was doing well against any of them. The times Freeze did get an upper just wouldn't work on Daredevil because of his senses. Good. His showing against Nightwing is definitely a better case against him than the Talon one  |
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