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Post by Admin on May 31, 2012 20:10:25 GMT -5
Captain America and Batman have switched Universes. Batman is a legendary hero in the 616 universe, and Captain America is an icon in New Earth. On one tragic day, both heroes fell. Like, for real dead. No time machine guns, no alternate dimensions, they're dead. But their worlds just wouldn't be complete without a proper Batman and Captain America. Here's where you step in, Ledger. Who in the 616 Universe (Steve Rogers isn't there!) could step up their game and do the cowl justice? Who in the Marvel Universe would be the next great Batman? Meanwhile, who in the New Earth Universe (Bruce Wayne isn't there!) could wield the shield and become the hero everyone respects and trusts? Speak your mind!
And no, saying characters like Squirrel Girl and Stilt-Man isn't original or funny anymore.
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Post by NorCalCO on May 31, 2012 20:28:33 GMT -5
I don't know DC characters well enough to have an opinion on who could take over in that universe as Cap. I will say that I think Clint Barton might make a pretty good Batman though.
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Post by jakefury on May 31, 2012 21:52:37 GMT -5
Matt Murdock would make an awesome Batman.
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Post by Power NeXus on May 31, 2012 23:02:06 GMT -5
I've always considered Daredevil to be the closest thing Marvel has to an equivalent of Batman.
They both get a crapload of ladies, but none that actually last for that long.
They both have a big thing about being fearless and instilling fear in others.
They both take on gangs and crime bosses rather than supervillians (most of the time).
They're both ninjas.
The only really major difference between them is that Bruce is filthy rich.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on May 31, 2012 23:03:45 GMT -5
Matt Murdock would suck as batman. The only character worthy of being Batman in Marvel is T'Challa.
And there's already someone filling the Cap role in DC: Superman.
/end thread
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Post by nelomaxwell on May 31, 2012 23:13:09 GMT -5
Matt Murdock would suck as batman. The only character worthy of being Batman in Marvel is T'Challa. And there's already someone filling the Cap role in DC: Superman. This |
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Post by Prophet626 on Jun 1, 2012 18:39:23 GMT -5
Yeah T'Challa would be the closed person to Batman in the Marvel Uni. I don't know about Cap's tho
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Jun 2, 2012 2:13:49 GMT -5
Batman's formation of Batman Inc. and the taking on of multiple sidekicks is an important part of Batman. If he functioned like he did on New Earth then he would undoubtedly set up a network and start training people who could carry on in his absence. Also, Batman's penchant for working against, rather than with, the government may put him at odds with most heroes like Punisher. Assuming that he does become the hero he is o New Earth, the most viable replacement for him would be Wolverine or Spider-man.
Captain America does not bring anything of value to the Justice League so I don't understand how he achieves anything of note on New Earth as he would be just another street leveler. But assuming he does, Manhattan Guardian is the most ideal.
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Post by Power NeXus on Jun 2, 2012 9:03:16 GMT -5
Assuming that he does become the hero he is o New Earth, the most viable replacement for him would be Wolverine or Spider-man.  |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 2, 2012 12:28:03 GMT -5
the most viable replacement for him would be Wolverine or Spider-man. You must be joking. Wolverine has no capacity whatsoever to become batman and Parker's nowhere near hard enough inside to act like batman. |
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Jun 2, 2012 15:15:33 GMT -5
Wolverine has everything that is needed to be Batman. He is incredibly smart, well trained, and damn near unkillable. His tortured past makes him a perfect Bat Sidekick. Wolverine is everything that Cassandra Cain was, and Batman took her in and trained her to become a hero. Who says that Batman doesn't take in Wolverine.
Spider-man also has everything he needs to become Batman. He is incredibly smart, somewhat well trained now, and has the powers needed to remain a powerful foe. His lack of parents makes him a perfect Bat Sidekick. Peter Parker lost his parents, jokes, and is highly acrobatic so he is almost exactly what Batman would be looking for in a Dick Grayson replacement.
You have to realize that a Marvel Universe with Batman would have him take on sidekicks like maybe a young teenager who cracks jokes with Spider powers or former assassin with no memory designed to be the perfect killer. Though maybe X-23 would fit more aptly here but she is a girl and cannot be Batman.
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Post by Painkiller on Jun 2, 2012 20:40:09 GMT -5
Wolverine isn't smart enough. And Batman doesn't kill.
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Post by DedmanWalkin on Jun 2, 2012 23:54:45 GMT -5
Wolverine is alot smarter than he is written, someone should post the screenshot where Beast explains his actual intelligence.
Cassandra Cain was a killer and Batman took her in and turned her into an effective hero. How is Wolverine not like Cassandra Cain?
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Post by Painkiller on Jun 3, 2012 3:37:24 GMT -5
Wolverine is alot smarter than he is written, someone should post the screenshot where Beast explains his actual intelligence. Cassandra Cain was a killer and Batman took her in and turned her into an effective hero. How is Wolverine not like Cassandra Cain? Cassandra Cain stopped murdering people after she became a hero, Logan didn't. |
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2012 11:19:25 GMT -5
Cassandra Cain stopped murdering people after she became a hero, Logan didn't. Actually, she stopped killing before she became a hero. She stopped when she was horrified at deaths she was causing when working for her father. She ran away, then she was picked up by Batman during the No man's land arc. Wolverine would be terrible as batman because he considers murder acceptable, is ready to use it and doesn't regret it. Heck his run in X-Force shows that to him, the way to deal with genocidal murderers is adamantium claw to the brain. Parker would be terrible as Batman because he doesn't have any stones. He doesn't consider fear an acceptable tactic. Batman uses fear as one of his most powerful weapons. Peter would likely be someone Batman could grow to trust but he would never be someone that he would consider to take on his mantle. The only one worthy T'Challa. Heck he's already Marvel's batman. |
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Post by jakefury on Jun 3, 2012 15:40:16 GMT -5
T'Challa became more like Batman during Liss' run than when he was stationed in Wakanda.
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Post by jakefury on Jun 3, 2012 15:41:35 GMT -5
I'm also assuming that the Marvel Bat heir gets access to his tech and wealth. Otherwise they wouldn't have the resources to begin with.
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Post by jakefury on Jun 3, 2012 16:32:33 GMT -5
As far as becoming Captain America, why not on young Clark Kent? Supes was pretty bad ass in JLA/Avengers wielding the shield. He also was raised with the values needed in the old DCU for the job.
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Post by Power NeXus on Jun 3, 2012 18:01:56 GMT -5
I don't see why Daredevil wouldn't make a great Batman.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Jun 3, 2012 21:33:27 GMT -5
I don't see why Daredevil wouldn't make a great Batman. Because he's corruptible, weak and nowhere near properly skilled and equiped. |
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