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Post by Erik-El on Oct 11, 2012 20:05:00 GMT -5
- In character. - Standard means of victory. - Batman has access to his Batcave and all of Gotham but must also deal with average criminal activity. - Prophet has his standard equipment. - Gotham is populated. Plot - Batman is given a Pulp Fiction briefcase with items/information that could destroy the overlord Weapon Omega but the consequences of giving it away to those that seek it could cause Gotham's complete destruction. Batman is aware that taking the contents out of the briefcase is not an option, nor is removing the briefcase from the Batcave. He cannot call on any aid and he knows that someone is after the briefcase to save their world. Prophet has 6 months to get the briefcase.  Does Prophet have the skills needed to get the necessary information to locate the Batcave? Once he does, will he be able to come up with a plan to neutralize any defenses Batman may have in place up to and including the Dark Knight himself?    |
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Post by Prophet626 on Oct 11, 2012 20:09:45 GMT -5
This is Batman 52 I take it?
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 11, 2012 20:10:07 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Prophet626 on Oct 11, 2012 20:15:37 GMT -5
Six months is a long time, I think he would need the X-Terminated team to breach the Batcave and win imo,
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 11, 2012 23:26:09 GMT -5
Six months is a long time. I never said that Prophet could not enlist aid but I would think that someone who can single-handedly take down an AoA sentinel by himself is worthy of standing on his own.
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Post by Prophet626 on Oct 12, 2012 20:13:33 GMT -5
Yeah but he studied the sentinels almost his entire life.. anyway I still doubt that Prophet alone could get the upper hand on Batman in this situation. IMO Batman's Batcave tech would be much for Prophet..
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 12, 2012 20:35:28 GMT -5
I think 6 months is enough time for Prophet to learn everything there is to learn about Batman and the Batcave. It took Tim what, a few weeks to deduce who Batman was? Prophet is much more practiced in strategy and study than Tim is based on his appearances so far.
And Prophet hasn't been studying sentinels his whole life. Just a few years at best and that is assuming human hunting sentinels have been in that universe as long as mutant hunting ones have been around in the 616 universe. I am fairly certain they didn't come around until well into Apocalypse's reign though, so not very long. And even if he had studied them for a decade, a lone human taking down any kind of sentinel is a noteworthy feat. AoA sentinels seem far more dangerous than the sentinels that are lethal to mutants in the 616 universe.
Besides that, Prophet does seem to be a master of manipulation. Is there not a single person that could not be persuaded to aid him in getting the briefcase or at the very least, giving Batman a distraction?
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Post by Prophet626 on Oct 13, 2012 20:41:14 GMT -5
With in 6 month Prophet would have to follow/track Batman around Gothem which is his home ground, Prophets stealth skills are not as good as Batman's so half the time Batman will know he is being follow and will lose Prophet.
I said almost his whole life. Taking down the AOA Sentinels and Breaking into the Batcave are not the same thing but I agree that it is a great feat for any lone human. If he didn't manage to track Batman back to his Batcave.. he would have home field advantage again. All I'm saying is alone I think Batman would take the majority..
I think if he was to get help.. Based on the lastest issue.. Zora from X-Terminated would be his best bet XD
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 13, 2012 20:51:34 GMT -5
I highly doubt that. Tim had no training at all in stealth at the time he deduced Batman's identity. If he was able to learn the secrets without Batman being able to stop it, I doubt Prophet will have a much harder time.
Well I would say that Prophet has been surviving a large portion of his life, not almost all of it. The AoA could not be longer than a maybe 15 years. Seems like an arbitrary number but it really isn't. Apocalypse only came around well after the X-Men were grown in the 616. The only difference between AoA and 616, at least at a critical point, there was no Xavier around to create the X-Men to stop Apocalypse. Following that line of logic, Prophet has managed all the skill he has in a matter of a few years.
Batman might take a H2H encounter and I say might with emphasis because I think Prophet's H2H is being undersold here. Prophet was able to evenly match Daredevil and I think Daredevil could be a match for Batman. That being said, Prophet gets the advantage of study here and Batman does not. His knowledge is limited to only knowing that someone is after the briefcase.
Prophet is in Gotham but his war buddies are not unfortunately. I struggled with whether or not I should include them but honestly, I thought that the entire team would kill Batman almost immediately so I cut them out.
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Post by Prophet626 on Oct 14, 2012 20:06:01 GMT -5
I've been thinking about it and I will concede.. I still think that it would be a up hill battle for Prophet though..
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 14, 2012 21:19:49 GMT -5
Lol lame that I had to debate my own thread. Poopy!
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Post by Prophet626 on Oct 14, 2012 21:26:20 GMT -5
lol Well I wanted to keep going but I haven't really been keeping up with most of the Batman 52 stuff, like the Tim Drake thing you brought up, I didn't know how Tim found out or what context it was in.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 14, 2012 21:32:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure if they changed that part of his origin. I think all they did was show how his pre-heroics origin changed.
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