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Post by creator on Nov 5, 2010 3:22:43 GMT -5
I remember them days. I loved them then. And I still love them now. Hopefully with this site being full of sane people, we should be able to help out. I'm counting on that help
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Post by Strafe Prower on Nov 5, 2010 8:00:58 GMT -5
good, just let me know when and where the scans go, and I'll unload them on you. Thanks . Just a thought but we could draw the info for these from Respect Threads. This might mean we need to generate an massive number of new Respect threads however. Sounds good to me, I have a few more to make then BTW, you will see when I make that Clint Barton respect thread, that he has peak human reaction timing
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Post by Morpheus on Nov 5, 2010 8:12:54 GMT -5
For future reference, I'd rank current Iron Fist above peak human in reaction speed. Thats a discussion to have We can draw info from a Respect Thread for Iron Fist if you want to create one (if one does not already exist). Based on the events of the most recent Immortal Iron Fist series, and showings of bullet catching, and chi-charging bullets in mind-air after they've been fired, I'd say it's pretty definitive.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Nov 5, 2010 8:23:09 GMT -5
Thats a discussion to have We can draw info from a Respect Thread for Iron Fist if you want to create one (if one does not already exist). Based on the events of the most recent Immortal Iron Fist series, and showings of bullet catching, and chi-charging bullets in mind-air after they've been fired, I'd say it's pretty definitive.Can a peak human catch a bullet though? If that's how we are tallying it.
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Post by Morpheus on Nov 5, 2010 8:30:30 GMT -5
Based on the events of the most recent Immortal Iron Fist series, and showings of bullet catching, and chi-charging bullets in mind-air after they've been fired, I'd say it's pretty definitive.Can a peak human catch a bullet though? If that's how we are tallying it. It depends on our definition of peak human. Normally, no. In comics, it has been done (Ozymandias, or Taskmaster spring to mind, even though Tasky can enter short speed bursts). I haven't seen Batman, or Captain America (the pinnacles of peak human ability) do so, though.
It also depends on how the feat was accomplished. Iron Fist caught a sniper bullet that was outside his range of perception when the shot was fired, while both Ozymandias and Taskmaster pulled it off while facing the shooter, so it can be argued it was a combination of reflexes, and calculation on where the bullet would be fired. Iron Fist had no such luxury.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Nov 5, 2010 8:35:12 GMT -5
Can a peak human catch a bullet though? If that's how we are tallying it. It depends on our definition of peak human. Normally, no. In comics, it has been done (Ozymandias, or Taskmaster spring to mind, even though Tasky can enter short speed bursts). I haven't seen Batman, or Captain America (the pinnacles of peak human ability) do so, though.
It also depends on how the feat was accomplished. Iron Fist caught a sniper bullet that was outside his range of perception when the shot was fired, while both Ozymandias and Taskmaster pulled it off while facing the shooter, so it can be argued it was a combination of reflexes, and calculation on where the bullet would be fired. Iron Fist had no such luxury.I understand its in comics. But what about the whole power of the bullet as well. You know the way it rips through skin and bone depending on the calibre. Why doesn't it do that to these "peak humans"? That's not a question just for you like. I just wondered. I've seen Tasky go in "fast" mode as in he watched a show in fastforward and that's how he dealt with his opponent. That looked like one of those need to be done moments that takes a lot out of him. That can explain how he could catch bullets.
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Post by Morpheus on Nov 5, 2010 8:38:30 GMT -5
It depends on our definition of peak human. Normally, no. In comics, it has been done (Ozymandias, or Taskmaster spring to mind, even though Tasky can enter short speed bursts). I haven't seen Batman, or Captain America (the pinnacles of peak human ability) do so, though.
It also depends on how the feat was accomplished. Iron Fist caught a sniper bullet that was outside his range of perception when the shot was fired, while both Ozymandias and Taskmaster pulled it off while facing the shooter, so it can be argued it was a combination of reflexes, and calculation on where the bullet would be fired. Iron Fist had no such luxury. I understand its in comics. But what about the whole power of the bullet as well. You know the way it rips through skin and bone depending on the calibre. Why doesn't it do that to these "peak humans"? That's not a question just for you like. I just wondered. No argument there, I wonder myself sometimes, but there's only so much realism we can apply, I guess. Or, maybe creator has an explanation. We'll see.
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Post by Supreme Marvel on Nov 5, 2010 8:42:55 GMT -5
Hopefully.
Need to get AtPhantom over here if he isn't already.
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Post by Morpheus on Nov 5, 2010 8:44:34 GMT -5
Hopefully. Need to get AtPhantom over here if he isn't already. Worry not, he's here.
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Post by creator on Nov 5, 2010 12:07:49 GMT -5
It depends on our definition of peak human. Normally, no. In comics, it has been done (Ozymandias, or Taskmaster spring to mind, even though Tasky can enter short speed bursts). I haven't seen Batman, or Captain America (the pinnacles of peak human ability) do so, though.
It also depends on how the feat was accomplished. Iron Fist caught a sniper bullet that was outside his range of perception when the shot was fired, while both Ozymandias and Taskmaster pulled it off while facing the shooter, so it can be argued it was a combination of reflexes, and calculation on where the bullet would be fired. Iron Fist had no such luxury. We have seen Shang Ch'i pull off blocking bullets with his bracelets, even at close distances (less than 20'). As for Iron Fist catching a snipers bullet, that may be that he now has enhanced senses (as some master martial artists are in tune with thir environment) that permit the detection, which then makes the effect with his refelexes possible. And yes I have some ideas to measure and rate these feats. It just requires me to do some heavy lifting in a mental sense
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Post by Morpheus on Nov 5, 2010 12:49:09 GMT -5
It depends on our definition of peak human. Normally, no. In comics, it has been done (Ozymandias, or Taskmaster spring to mind, even though Tasky can enter short speed bursts). I haven't seen Batman, or Captain America (the pinnacles of peak human ability) do so, though.
It also depends on how the feat was accomplished. Iron Fist caught a sniper bullet that was outside his range of perception when the shot was fired, while both Ozymandias and Taskmaster pulled it off while facing the shooter, so it can be argued it was a combination of reflexes, and calculation on where the bullet would be fired. Iron Fist had no such luxury. We have seen Shang Ch'i pull off blocking bullets with his bracelets, even at close distances (less than 20'). As for Iron Fist catching a snipers bullet, that may be that he now has enhanced senses (as some master martial artists are in tune with thir environment) that permit the detection, which then makes the effect with his refelexes possible. And yes I have some ideas to measure and rate these feats. It just requires me to do some heavy lifting in a mental sense He was aware he was being watched, but his senses/reflexes were numb considering he was being poisoned all day long*, by a woman working for Hydra that worked as a servant to the house he was visiting, so it isn't clear-cut if he actually knew the exact location of the shooters.
* He used his chi to burn off the poison shortly afterwards.
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Post by Erik-El on Nov 5, 2010 14:37:58 GMT -5
creator: I love the grids so far. I have a few questions though. Captain America has been seen outrunning Diatrymas, which are clocked at 50 miles per hour. Should that not bump him up a tier in the movement speed grid? He was also listed as 'enhanced human' in Civil War. One last thing. In his return, he noted that he does not physically tire. I assume he meant if he remains uninjured though. I believe Bruce Wayne should be listed as peak and Steve Rogers low enhanced human.
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Post by Morpheus on Nov 5, 2010 17:40:16 GMT -5
Spider-Man has outrun bullets, literally. Not sure about the feasibility of that feat, though.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 5, 2010 18:00:12 GMT -5
Spider-Man has outrun bullets, literally. Not sure about the feasibility of that feat, though. When? How? What?!!!!!
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Post by Morpheus on Nov 5, 2010 18:00:39 GMT -5
Spider-Man has outrun bullets, literally. Not sure about the feasibility of that feat, though. When? How? What?!!!!! You need to read the Other, mate.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 5, 2010 18:02:57 GMT -5
When? How? What?!!!!! You need to read the Other, mate.Ok thanks! =]
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Post by Morpheus on Nov 5, 2010 18:11:46 GMT -5
You need to read the Other, mate. Ok thanks! =] It didn't work out all that well in the end, but he did outrun them before he tried to catch them.
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Post by Matezoide on Nov 5, 2010 18:13:24 GMT -5
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Post by Morpheus on Nov 5, 2010 18:14:49 GMT -5
Face it, tiger. You're fast. I'm faster.
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Post by spidey_17 on Nov 5, 2010 18:15:48 GMT -5
Awesome, thanks! Even though i would prefer if i could read the issue. =P
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