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Post by Dane on May 14, 2013 1:51:08 GMT -5
Questions: Can the Oberth escape the confrontation with their hyperdrive? If not, can we perform a Picard Maneuver? At the very least it could get the Oberth to the rear of the Romulan ships (which generally have >50% less weapons capable of firing at rear targets). It was taught in Starfleet academy and only Data was able to theorize defenses against it iirc. It would probably be almost standard procedure for a heavily damaged vessel that is outgunned.
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Post by Erik-El on May 14, 2013 2:39:58 GMT -5
Questions: Can the Oberth escape the confrontation with their hyperdrive? If not, can we perform a Picard Maneuver? At the very least it could get the Oberth to the rear of the Romulan ships (which generally have >50% less weapons capable of firing at rear targets). It was taught in Starfleet academy and only Data was able to theorize defenses against it iirc. It would probably be almost standard procedure for a heavily damaged vessel that is outgunned. I'll allow the Picard Maneuver. What kind of Picard fanboy would I be if I nixed that? But no to the hyperdrive. Picard Maneuver aside, we'll keep it fairly close to STO rules. No escape once in combat type of deal. Keep in mind, the option to let the Oberth fall is completely optional. You don't lose the scenario for being a coward lol. I have several ideas for the connecting mission depending on how you guys choose to solve it.
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Post by Dane on May 14, 2013 3:55:33 GMT -5
Questions: Can the Oberth escape the confrontation with their hyperdrive? If not, can we perform a Picard Maneuver? At the very least it could get the Oberth to the rear of the Romulan ships (which generally have >50% less weapons capable of firing at rear targets). It was taught in Starfleet academy and only Data was able to theorize defenses against it iirc. It would probably be almost standard procedure for a heavily damaged vessel that is outgunned. I'll allow the Picard Maneuver. What kind of Picard fanboy would I be if I nixed that? But no to the hyperdrive. Picard Maneuver aside, we'll keep it fairly close to STO rules. No escape once in combat type of deal. Keep in mind, the option to let the Oberth fall is completely optional. You don't lose the scenario for being a coward lol. I have several ideas for the connecting mission depending on how you guys choose to solve it. If the Oberth's weapons are fully functional then I see no reason why I shouldn't blindside them. Picture this, you say I went to Starfleet Academy with the Captain of the ship. So our teamwork might actually be pretty good. If I get him to perform the Picard Maneuver he could reasonably feign a forward burst (between two of the smaller ships) and then have another extremely small warp speed burst to put him behind one of them smaller ships. Now the Romulan's have one of two options: -Fire at the first point (mirror image), which for at least one ship would be side-along to another Romulan vessel. So if they fire at the mirror image they will hit a friendly, -Fire at the second point (where the ship is). Now since they're in a circle, if he is behind the ship then at least two of them have to fire through their own ship to hit. So by performing the maneuver he ensures that at least 2 enemy ships can't actually fire on him without hitting a friendly and the other 2 have a 50/50 shot of either blasting a friendly or fire a vastly reduced payload (All Romulan vessels have much more forward-facing weapons) at the actual ship. So that turns his situation around a lot and puts him in a position where the Romulans can't get a good firing solution on him, reducing his battle damage. In the meantime, I come in with my modest but well equipped Cruiser. This is a problem for the Romulans because since the Oberth is outside their circle, they have only one angle of attack on them (again, limited by line of sight) whilst my ship can come in from the other side of the circle and essentially create a pincer maneuver. Now if we focus fire on the smaller ships first off, we can destroy them pretty easily. The reason being if I'm firing at their front or side and the Oberth is firing at their rear, they have divert their shields in two directions, weakening the shield strength in both directions and having a much higher chance of us getting a Photon Torpedo through (and causing catastrophic damage). Now since we are both facing all the ships in one direction, we only have to reinforce our shields in a single direction (forward or to one side if we begin to circle them). We basically turn their trap against them by creating one of our own using the Picard Maneuver to basically 'teleport' by using limited warp bursts. Now while our shields are focused, they can only really hit us with their disruptors, which, whilst quite deadly in focused amounts, aren't a real problem. Because they can't focus them, since all their weapons are in the front of their ships. Those Warbirds also aren't *that* maneuverable. Probably more than our ships, but we don't have to be maneuverable. We just have to mix them up, throw them off balance and bring our weapons to bare before they can figure out what's up. Now I'm not saying we could easily kill them by any stretch but Romulans aren't like Klingons. They won't fight to the last man and if you pull some shit out that they aren't expecting and they lose two decent sized ships in quick succession, they'll think twice about whether they want to throw down on an even money fight (2 v 2) or bug out with their asses intact. I'd say the latter is most likely but if our tactics held and they weren't able to figure out how to see through the warp mirror images like Data did, then we could win the fight by outmaneuvering and tactically outclassing them, even if we couldn't outgun in a strict 4v2.
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Post by Erik-El on May 14, 2013 10:45:25 GMT -5
Dane: I know you are not trying to solve the scenario before you have your character bios up. Because as far as I am concerned, you only have half your bridge officers with you right now.
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Post by Dane on May 14, 2013 16:34:09 GMT -5
Details man!
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Post by Beatboks on May 15, 2013 4:56:31 GMT -5
KOtok has been working on a device based of something he heard from childhood stories. These childhood stories told of an old prototype ship the Romulans used to try and cause war between the other Alpha quadrant races and destabilize the quadrant. The device ( used of Course in Enterprise against Archer and crew) allowed the ship to project an outward image of any type of ship they had on file. She finally has a working prototype when the captain receives the order to assist the Qoj KOtok explains his new device to Modak who immediately sees potential uses for it in the coming mission. As they approach the coordinates of the Qoj he has KOtak make the PLagh ( his K'T'inga vessel) appear to be an innocuous freighter ( no apparent threat to anyone). Modak has Rokar take a flight path of least resistance. www.comicvine.com/images/1300-3044715At first Rokar thinks the captain has lost his nerve and begins to object. Objections that die in his throat as Modak's D'K tahg is forced into it and he reminds him that he has just killed one challenger today would you like to make it two. The rest of the bridge crew watch with anticipation as Rokar rethinks his position and retakes his station to execute the order. Once they are past the Asteroids Modak orders Rokar to alter course and set course straight for the Mogai warbird. As a taunt to allay any further unrest in his crew and settle once and for all any questions over his leadership he adds a taunt to drive it home "Unless you lack the honor to enter Sto-vo-Kor today". the Jibe has the desired effect and galvanizes all the bridge crew behind their captain. He also Orders Katel to get a contingent of warriors ready to board the lesser war ships. With a ramming course at flank speed set and appearing to be an insignificant freighter it isn't until they are well within disruptor range they the Romulan ships begin to fire. s they suspect they need littel effort to take down a lowly freighter the disruptors they fire are hardly of any concern to the Plagh's shields. They are however sufficient to overload KOtak's device and reveal exactly who is flying at the lead Romulan ship to the Romulans. It's too little too late and they don't even have time to fire on the Plagh before it has unleashed all but a few of its full contingent of warheads at the MOgai while it changes course at Modak's command to be heading straight for the Dhelan warebird. At teh same time he orders the remaining warheads set to overload and teleported close to T'liss warbirds and ardersa ll disruptors to lock onto them as well as orders that the Qoj be caught in a tractor beam. Just as Modak suspected the cowardous captain of the Dhelan vessel seeks to run which due to the path he has chosen drives it straight into the path of the now exploding Mogai vessel. Effectively crippling both the Dehlan and the Mogai. His warriors fire on the warheads released causing an explosion that lowers the shields of the T'liss vessels. As soon as he hears that their shields are down he order "NOW". At his order the first 16 of the warrior squads ( 64 warriors) warriors aboard are teleported aboard the two T'liss class vessels under the command of Quas Devwi K'empir ( 8 to each). The two explosions either side of the Plagh have not left Modak's own vessel unharmed. HI shields are down and propulsion out. He hand the Qoj now move only with the speed that their prior momentum gave them. It's now a race against time. Six vessels effectively dead in space the Four Romulan vessels with only life support, while the Plagh and oj at least have weapons ( the Qoj minimal propulsion having been shielded by the PLagh). Two of these Romulan warbirds busily occupied fighting raider parties. WHO CAN FIX THEIR VESSELS FIRST ? WHO WILL WIN THE BATTLE ?? WILL THE KLINGON'S TRULY ENTER STO-VO-KOR THESE AND MANY MORE EXCITING THINGS WILL BE REVEALED TOMORROW SAME KLINGON TIME, SAME KLINGON CHANNEL
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Post by Beatboks on May 16, 2013 4:16:18 GMT -5
Erik, any comments on the start of my story??
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Post by Beatboks on May 16, 2013 6:05:58 GMT -5
Modak yells like a man possessed "report" from tactical Katel responds " shields are completely down we have only disruptors as operational weapons" Glag then adds " Propulsion is also gone, we're dead in the water, life support is ok we have some hull stresses but as yet no breaches." Katel then completes his report. Scans show all enemy vessels with either low or no shields. None seem to be moving. Only weapons showing active are minor disruptors in one of the T'liss vessels. It's out of range at the moment. No reports from our warriors who boarded as yet. The Qoj has thrust and 30% shields but no weapons active"
Meanwhile aboard one of the T'liss warbirds the Romulan's are learning just how hard a battle can be against a klingon possessed. K'empir launched herself into the corridor disputor mowing down three Centurions as she did. She took disruptor fire to the shoulder, a lesser Klingon would have stopped to gather resolve but not K'empir. No instead of considering her actions while firing her disruptor with her right hand she draws a Batleth with left and brings the blade down on yet another centurions head cleaving it clean off his shoulders. BY this point the rest the rest of the sqads she leads are starting to flood the corridor. She orders them to advance toward the Bridge, to emphasis she says " the Plagh is depending on us, if we can't take these warbirds we will be sending all are brothers to Sto-va-kor before their time". She hit's her com link to make contact with the squads on the second vessel. "Leader this is Quas Devwi progress report". When he replies " we've made none Quas Devwi we are pinned sown where we teleported in and completely surrounded. K'empir's rply is quick and harsh " YOU bIHnuch HuH get yourself UNPINNED or I'll come over their and take your hearts out myself along with any other petaQ who has failed the empire" The leader didn't even need to give the order, to a man every Klingon warrior present on the second T'liss warbird reboubled, no trippled their efforts. What did they care if of the Romulan centurians present. All they had was disruptors, energy weapons. Their deaths in a battle like this would be quick and honorable, if K'empir found them wanting they would die slow and painfully and you could be sure Sto-Vo-Kor would not let what was left into it. No they deaths K'empir would give them would assure they would ride the barge of the dead to Gre'thor.
Meanwhile aboard the Plagh Modak was demanding that KOtak get shields and propulsion back on line Now. KOtak's reply was simple and quick, "choose which one you want most Captain, your only going to get one any time soon" Modak reached for his D'K tahg to deal with what he felt was a challenge yet again to his authority. KOtak quickly stopped him in his tracks with a simple statement " I'd think about that captain, with the focus the Empire has on combat knowledge as opposed to engineering if you kill me who else on this crew is going to get ANYTHING working again before we are blown to bits?". Modak resheathed his D'K tahg as much as he sometimes despised the half bread he had always had to admit she was worth at least any other 5 Klingon engineers. "Alright get me shields". At this point it comes over the comm " captain to the bridge". Modak arrives on the bridge where he is informed by Katel, the Mogai warbird appears to have minimal thrust and disrputors back on line. They are moving at a slow pace but have set course straight for us.
Modak only things for a moment when he asks, do we still have tractor beam?. The answer from Glag is promptly yes, but I don't see what good that's going to do. MOdak barks Glag get me teh Qoj. Seconds later the screen is filled with the image of D’ghor, Modak says "according to our scans you ahve thrust, correct?" D’ghor acknowledges that they do. Then we need your thrust, in case you haven't seen the Mogai warbird has made at least moderate repairs, we need to take it out before it can make any more. Set a course straight for it". D’ghor is quick to interject "but we only have 30% shields we would be destroyed with no hope of a victory for the empire". Modak voice is hard and purposeful when he replies " that's 30% more than we have, you can take a few hits and then pull out before your shields collapse and cut through the asteroid belt for protection. we will lock onto your vessel with a tractor beam and cut loose just before you make that change in course. We still have disruptors and hopefully by the time you pull out shields, we'll keep her busy while you get re-enforcements"
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Post by Erik-El on May 16, 2013 23:46:52 GMT -5
Erik, any comments on the start of my story?? Yeah some issues. You said they are already firing upon your ship when you get within range but then say that once you are revealed, it is too little too late for them to do anything about you. Phasers cause the most damage to shields and you have 4 ships giving you some of that energy love. Even with some powerful shields, it is hardly something to ignore. You said you unload all your missiles on the Mogai and that is completely fine but how many can your ship launch at a time? According to your ship’s specs, that is 4 forward-facing missile launchers assuming you decided not to fit your ship with phasers, which in my opinion would not be a good idea since shields largely insulate the ship from torpedoes and phasers are great at draining shield power. 4 missiles are not going to do much of anything to the Mogai ship. Their shields are up, they have nearly full power as do their comrades, and they outclass you. The ship you are giving aid to is their superior but numbers are against you here. You unfortunately, cannot handle the Mogai in a 1 vs 1 and certainly can’t handle the Mogai in a 4 vs 1. How I would handle it with your ship is pretty much the same beginning, only I would operate in tandem with the Vor’cha. Have the both of you focus your phasers on one point in the Mogai shield network, pierce it with the phasers, then send the torpedoes through the shield to a naked ship hull. This would devastate that section of the ship and affect the overall performance of the vessel in the long run. But then there are 3 other ships that are still there so even that has problems. I essentially made this scenario unwinnable for anyone ramming in, guns blazing. You need to kite the smaller enemies off the pile. This means your highest chance of success requires that you pull the smaller vessels away from the main fight, because it gives your ally less of a workload. Even if your ally is handling two enemies, that is significantly better than 3 or 4. Target the smaller ships. The Dhelan ship is your equal. It will not run because you surprised it when it has a significant tactical advantage. I don’t mind assuming that your warheads are powerful enough to overcome the shields of the weaker T’liss ships… eventually, but not in one salvo your ship is not that powerful. To put it in perspective for you, you are assuming you can do equivalent damage as a ship from 2409 did to the JJ-prise, which was about 150 years older than Nero’s ship… which was also equipped with Borg tech. Or that you have Khan’s super ship in the new movie *pardon the spoiler*. It just doesn’t follow that your ship is that powerful. To effectively cripple a ship that is your equal or even a bit below you, you need to take time. If they didn’t have shields up, sure, your strategy makes sense. But they do have shields up and are already firing on you the moment you get within range. I have no issue with your second post so if you can fix the problems with the first section and marry it to the second, things are looking up for your ship and crew.
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Post by Dane on May 17, 2013 0:09:30 GMT -5
Would my tactics be sound once I finish the backstories for my team?
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Post by Beatboks on May 17, 2013 1:10:30 GMT -5
you've either miss understood or I haven't been clear re my opening attack. the Romulans are firing on me long before i initiate any attack. he thing is because they ar enso focused on anklingon war ship in font of them they've only dedicated enough fire power to take out the vessel they see attacking ( a freighter with SFA shields or weapons). that fire does take away the ruse but by the time it does and they realize they are facing a second Klingon war ship they are already taking fire from my missiles. It's my contention that because they're focused on the Qoj withtheir firepower by the time they turn to bare their heavier firepower against the Plagh their main ship has taken a few salvos already.
also sorry I never meant that we fire everythin at once just that it's a constant barrage of everything we have bar that we're holding back for the T'liss vessels. flank speed heading straight at an enemy is going to make ranging missiles/ torpedos etc pretty hard and as you said using energy weapons aren't as good since they also weaken defense. because of my planned attack path the way I see it two of the Romulan ships can't fire on me without hitting themselves at least 40% of the time so i've only got two to worry about. the plan as i seemit weakens one enough that the second wont completely breach my shields before I reach my intende target ( and since I'm stating I end up with no shields prooulsion and minimal weapons clearly I'm saying they do take my shields down ( remeber the teleported torpedoes we fire on are on the far side of the combat zone and still cripple my ship but not the qoj who only faced the damage done by cknstant barrage from four ships.
guess I should have been a little clearer in the way I worded it. I considered an " alliance" like tou suggest but thought it just wouldn't be klingon enough
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Post by Erik-El on May 17, 2013 11:35:39 GMT -5
Would my tactics be sound once I finish the backstories for my team? I am exercising my right to be on a power trip here. NOT GOING TO ANSWER UNTIL YOU FINISH YOUR TEAM!!!
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Post by Erik-El on May 17, 2013 12:17:41 GMT -5
you've either miss understood or I haven't been clear re my opening attack. the Romulans are firing on me long before i initiate any attack. he thing is because they ar enso focused on anklingon war ship in font of them they've only dedicated enough fire power to take out the vessel they see attacking ( a freighter with SFA shields or weapons). that fire does take away the ruse but by the time it does and they realize they are facing a second Klingon war ship they are already taking fire from my missiles. It's my contention that because they're focused on the Qoj withtheir firepower by the time they turn to bare their heavier firepower against the Plagh their main ship has taken a few salvos already. also sorry I never meant that we fire everythin at once just that it's a constant barrage of everything we have bar that we're holding back for the T'liss vessels. flank speed heading straight at an enemy is going to make ranging missiles/ torpedos etc pretty hard and as you said using energy weapons aren't as good since they also weaken defense. because of my planned attack path the way I see it two of the Romulan ships can't fire on me without hitting themselves at least 40% of the time so i've only got two to worry about. the plan as i seemit weakens one enough that the second wont completely breach my shields before I reach my intende target ( and since I'm stating I end up with no shields prooulsion and minimal weapons clearly I'm saying they do take my shields down ( remeber the teleported torpedoes we fire on are on the far side of the combat zone and still cripple my ship but not the qoj who only faced the damage done by cknstant barrage from four ships. guess I should have been a little clearer in the way I worded it. I considered an " alliance" like tou suggest but thought it just wouldn't be klingon enough I may have misunderstood but if that is the case, it most certainly is because you are typing from your ipad and not checking your post for clarity. Even this response requires me to take the time to decipher. I definitely see what you were saying about the camouflage though which is why I let it happen in the first place. It seems like a decent enough strategy, though I'm not sure why it is better than a cloak, which would allow you to approach range without being detected at all. The problem is that there are enough ships to easily destroy you and your ally if you try and fight it out all in one spot. Your proposed solution so far only would momentarily surprise them, but in the end, it wouldn't really have a negative effect on them. As powerful as your ship is, it is nothing compared to the combined force of these ships. Even though little attention would be given to a freighter, they still would devote enough attention to it to destroy it since it is clearly a freighter that is acting aggressively towards them. Once your mask has fallen, it is a small matter to turn a few more weapons towards you. Yes they are giving the bulk of their attention to the Qoj, but that ship is teetering on the edge, a few more combined shots will end that ship so they would likely be able to afford to turn more than a small amount of attention to a freighter that seems to be performing a ramming maneuver. I see. Okay that makes more sense about how your torpedoes were used. No, I said the energy weapons are great at weakening shields while torpedoes are great at damaging the physical ship. You need both to mount an effective offense. Why are the Romulan ships at risk of hitting each other? Your strategy didn't seem to make it clear on how the ships will fire on each other or collide. No sorry. The Mogai is not going to be weakened by your surprise... at least as it currently stands. You haven't done anything that can overcome their superior defenses and firepower. They aren't powerful enough to drop you in one shot either but their attacks, combined with the other ships will take you down shortly if you beg for the attention of all the ships at once. I don't have a problem with you teleporting your torpedoes into space, I just don't think the Romulans are going to turn and flee because of one ship joining the fight against 4. It just doesn't make sense even for Romulans.
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Post by Dane on May 17, 2013 17:52:20 GMT -5
...diabolical.
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Post by Erik-El on May 17, 2013 17:56:49 GMT -5
Lol.
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Post by Dane on May 17, 2013 18:15:57 GMT -5
your sig is broken Erik
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Post by Beatboks on May 17, 2013 18:51:36 GMT -5
yeah ive been on ipads or phone. the reason why they would hit each other is that two vessels in relation to me are behind the other two. I'm coming in diagonally toward the battle so the vessel on the left of the diamond formation is behind the one on top and the one on bottom is behind the one to the right. I chose that attack path deliberately so as to limit it to a two ship attack. Obviously as I get closer it opens up more angles ( hence why I said 40 %). there would still be some interference of their scanners getting a clear shot due to the energy signature of their allies closer and partially in line.
as for cloaks they'd be great if I had them but I'm not flying a Klingon bird of prey. K'T'inga's and battle cruisers as I recall aren't equipped with cloaks something about them not being effective enough to cloak the larger vessels much greater energy signature. It's the same reason the Defiant can sometimes be detected with it's cloak because it's energy signature is so much larger than normal vessels it's size because of the greater speed it can achieve
if you think about it in DS9 Klingon battle cruisers could take a few hits from even Jem'hadar ships which are much more dangerous than those here. It's not that their shields are any stronger but their vessels are a little more durable and can take a fraction more once shields are down. with most of the ships not really giving me any attention and really none until I'm a least a third way from the asteroid field to the battle ( when they're sure I'm posturing aggressively ) and only using minimal fire until I'm half way ( at least ) there. I would say I can do drastically more damage to the vessel I'm focusing my fire on than two vessels can do to me.
Also should have thought of it before now but since i know there is no threat from behind all rear shielding will be transferred to forward shielding while we approach just to maximize how long shields last. Just so you know the end of my battle scenario has one of the T'liss war ships ( after the boarding warriors take her/ them)towing the Plagh ( almost junk) back to the empire because there wont be enough left for her to do it herself. Oh what songs there will be about a battle like that one lone old Klingon battle cruiser against 4 Romulan war ships
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Post by Erik-El on May 19, 2013 14:39:29 GMT -5
Okay I see what you are saying and I think that is fine. However, I also think it buys you mere seconds because the two larger ships are packed with seasoned Romulan crews. An argument on the experience can be made on the smaller ships but no Romulan would be given control of warships if they were not capable; they would have been killed on their planet long before they were given a ship if they were found wanting. So basically, what I am saying is that I am willing to allow your path to cause a momentary stir in two ship's ability to target you but it is something quickly overcome. They all have battle formations memorized just like any competent crew would. Formations would adjust to a 2 vs 4 brawl and you would be in serious doo-doo.
In 2410, the K'Tinga has cloaks. It is right on the page I linked for your ship. Shame on you for not checking out your own ship's specs for the new era they live in. That sounds like Klingon behavior alright lol. Yes cloaks on larger ships can be more easily detected but if they aren't looking for you and focused on blowing up your buddy, odds are they wont be aware of you until you want to be noticed.
DS9 isn't relevant. The Dominion War ended 35 years ago, relative to the scenario. Times and technology have changed. The link I provided on how Romulan ships compare to Klingons was brief, but it did give some information that addresses this. It states that pound for pound, Romulan warbirds are much more durable than Klingon ships and the longer fights go on, the more powerful their weapons get due to their unique warp core technology providing more power the longer it is drawn upon. They are however, much less maneuverable and slower than your ship is comparatively. Your ship is larger than the T'liss warbirds so they obviously are going to outmaneuver you. Furthermore, ship loss results in devastating singularity implosions due to these same warp cores.
The ships are giving you attention because you approached them aggressively. Insignificant as you appear due to the camo, you are still an aggressive target. No freighter would beeline a combat zone unless they had a reason to. Romulans aren't idiots and they are ruthless, they are going to address the threat of the freighter.
Transferring rear shields to forward is just fine by me. But it takes time to transfer power so once you pass the area of death and you are forced to expose your backside before you turn to face them again, their superior weapons will chew your vulnerable engineering section up. In this new century Romulans, not the Klingons, have the superior ships for sitting and trading fire.
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Post by Erik-El on May 19, 2013 14:47:51 GMT -5
your sig is broken Erik Drat!
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Post by Beatboks on May 20, 2013 3:12:30 GMT -5
Well if I've got Cloaks I'm sure as hell going to use them.
Hehe, Just thought of a an adjustment that might make this a little easier.
After learning of his decoy image Modak has the engineer fit two probes with them. They make the probes look like small space debri from the asteroid belt drifting into the battle. Once near the two larger ships they activate the probes preset and adjusted purpose, which will be to overload the shields of the ships they come into contact with by acting like an oscillating frequency phaser/disruptor. once the shields are weakened my still cloaked ship which by now is very near the battle will begin a sustained barrage on BOTH vessels while contacting the Qoj to focus it's fire on the two rear T'liss class vessels propulsion ( making any change in formation damn near impossible and keeping them in a position where they are unable to fire on the Plagh until it moves into position to attack them.
By the time the Plagh moves forward to face the two T'liss with the Qoj it's sustains it's barrage ( both torpedoes and disruptors BTW) against only one until it's shields also fail. At this point it teleports all 16 squads to that vessel. Both Plagh and Qoj focus on the one remaining T'liss while the other one is too damn busy fighting hell bent Klingon warriors within ( the occasional shot being put it's way).
That sound a little more plausible
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