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Post by Admin on Jul 22, 2011 15:56:37 GMT -5
AP being someone we know seems logical, taking into account the previous promotions of "Who is the American Panther?!"
But frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. lol
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Post by Morpheus on Jul 22, 2011 16:25:52 GMT -5
Liss speaks about the upcoming Black Panther vs Kingpin storyarc, at CBR.
When Liss' "Black Panther" series began in December, he inherited a number of elements from the last volume of "Daredevil" (the Hell's Kitchen setting, the series' old numbering, etc.). Since then, he's worked hard to maintain some of the mood and tone of "Daredevil" while telling new stories with his title character. With the Kingpin and the Hand set to arrive, Liss is about tell his most "Daredevil"-esque arc of "Black Panther" to date.
"I've always been quite open about being a 'Daredevil' fan," Liss told CBR News. "When I took over this book, it took me about 45 seconds to think, 'Black Panther has to have some kind of conflict with the Kingpin!' It's inevitable for the protector of Hell's Kitchen to run into the Kingpin, especially since Shadowland, the Hand headquarters, is smack in the middle of Hell's Kitchen. This is a showdown between two incredibly powerful, intelligent and ruthless characters."
The Kingpin may be a tough and resourceful character, but Liss is handling him with extreme care. "Writing Wilson Fisk is like writing any other of these long-term characters," Liss explained. "It feels like I'm doing something important, and I have to be careful not to damage the goods and be respectful to the history. This is a character that people have followed for decades. He's well established and he is who he is, so while I want to tell a story about a real character, and I want to tell a story where there are consequences, I'm also operating within an ongoing tradition. In this story you'll see how much he has changed the last couple of years. Ruling the Hand instead of the underworld is more than a matter of 'same game, different players.' He has new methods and new interests, but the most important thing I want readers to see is that he remains ruthless, clever and a master strategist. That's what makes him a truly worthy opponent for Black Panther."
When the Kingpin and the Black Panther confront each other, it will be the classic case of the irresistible force meeting the immovable object. Both men are cunning, prideful and stuck in a situation where they can't afford to lose. "I don't want to get into the mechanics of what's going on," Liss teased, "but there is going to be a great deal at stake for both of them."
Liss couldn't reveal how the Panther-Kingpin vendetta comes about for fear of spoilers, but the seeds of their conflict are sewn in "Black Panther: The Most Dangerous Man Alive" #524, an issue that ties into the upcoming "Spider-Island" event. "Much of what's going on won't become fully clear until a couple issues into the arc," Liss remarked. "I will say that this is more personal than 'Wilson Fisk is up to something bad and Black Panther happens to be the guy around to stop him.' Their fates intertwine because their specific goals are at cross purposes. T'Challa takes on Fisk because he has to."
As the head of two powerful criminal enterprises, the Kingpin has plenty of soldiers at his disposal to attack T'Challa, including Hand ninjas and three different costumed enforcers. Liss couldn't reveal if the Kingpin's newest agent, the Hobgoblin, plays a role in the arc, but the crimelord's two trusted female lieutenants, Lady Bullseye and Typhoid Mary, will be part of the story.
"Typhoid Mary is interesting because she's so delightfully insane," Liss explained. "She's both dangerous and unpredictable, and I think a character like that always presents some really great storytelling opportunities. And I've really loved Lady Bullseye as a character ever since Ed Brubaker introduced her in 'Daredevil.' There's just something so electric about her single-minded ruthlessness -- where it comes from and how she's willing to deploy it. I remember reading those issues -- this was before I was writing comics -- and thinking, 'Man! I'd love to tell a story about her!' So this is a really great opportunity for me to work with a character that I've always found interesting."
T'Challa is well aware of the manpower and resources the Kingpin has at his command. As the arc progresses, he'll take steps to even the odds. "T'Challa is certainly prideful, but there's pride and then there's insanity," Liss remarked. "He understands that going against the Hand by himself is perhaps not wise. So, yes, he will be getting some help in this arc."
Over the course of a nearly 20-year career, Shawn Martinbrough has brought to life tales featuring Batman, the Punisher, Bullseye and Luke Cage. Liss is extremely eager to see what the veteran artist will do with his Black Panther versus the Kingpin story. "I think this story is going to look great," the writer said. "The setting and action play to Shawn's strengths, which are considerable. I can't wait to see what he does with the scripts."
The Kingpin arc of "Black Panther: The Most Dangerous Man Alive" will come to an end in the first quarter of 2012, and when it does, the lives of both men will have changed dramatically. "I don't like to tell stories where there's a reset button at the end," Liss said. "The Kingpin has fought vigilantes before, and I didn't want to tell another story of him simply failing to achieve everything he wanted to achieve. We are going to make it very clear early on that whichever one of these characters loses is going to lose big. And somebody is going to lose."
T'Challa may lose to Kingpin, but if he does go down it won't be without a fight. In the Kingpin arc, Liss plans on showing readers exactly why T'Challa is the title character of "The Most Dangerous Man Alive." "There are some Black Panther fans who objected to him losing his powers," Liss said. "They saw it as this character that they loved being weakened and watered down. I feel like this is an arc that's going to end this conversation forever. He may not have the abilities, technology or wealth he once had, but there's nothing weak and watered down about T'Challa. If anything, he's never been stronger."
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Post by Admin on Jul 22, 2011 16:27:52 GMT -5
That final paragraph certainly peaked my interest.
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Post by Morpheus on Jul 22, 2011 16:31:28 GMT -5
I like how he's been respectful to established characters. If he writes Kingpin the way he did Kraven, I'd be very pleased.
Currently reading through his American Panther interview. LOLed at this:
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Post by Admin on Jul 22, 2011 16:31:58 GMT -5
Hah.
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Post by Morpheus on Jul 22, 2011 16:34:22 GMT -5
Nice reference to an old ASM cover.Attachments:
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Post by Admin on Jul 22, 2011 16:36:24 GMT -5
Overdrive?
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Post by Morpheus on Jul 22, 2011 16:38:40 GMT -5
BND instroduced villain. He's actually a big fan of Spider-Man.
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Post by Admin on Jul 22, 2011 16:39:43 GMT -5
Thanks.
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Post by Heisenburg on Jul 22, 2011 22:26:49 GMT -5
Were you relieved to see T'Challa is not the American Panther, Static?
Liss went as far as calling the notion that T'Challa could be the AP "silly", but he went with it since Marvel advertised it as vaguely as they did.
I wonder who the guy is, though. I've heard ideas of him being Kasper Cole, or Nuke. I was very relieved. LOL I want to think that the AP is the police officer that the Hate Monger controlled at the beginning. But, I don't know.
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Post by nelomaxwell on Jul 23, 2011 14:04:45 GMT -5
Were you relieved to see T'Challa is not the American Panther, Static?
Liss went as far as calling the notion that T'Challa could be the AP "silly", but he went with it since Marvel advertised it as vaguely as they did.
I wonder who the guy is, though. I've heard ideas of him being Kasper Cole, or Nuke. I was very relieved. LOL I want to think that the AP is the police officer that the Hate Monger controlled at the beginning. But, I don't know. It's probably Cole
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Post by nelomaxwell on Jul 23, 2011 14:06:27 GMT -5
T'Challa is in New York. Kingpin is in New York. Having them face off just kind of makes sense. How does one piece of promo art now render him no-longer your favorite? I think he needs his own rouges Vlad was an okay start but I just see this as him picking up more scraps.
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Post by Heisenburg on Jul 23, 2011 22:39:59 GMT -5
I think he needs his own rouges Vlad was an okay start but I just see this as him picking up more scraps. Considering the status of the rogues in Hell's Kitchen after Shadowland, developing a new set of rogues wouldn't make sense. You can't be a hero in Hell's Kitchen without running into people like Kingpin and Lady Bullseye.
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Post by jakefury on Jul 23, 2011 22:56:26 GMT -5
Issue #521 was GOOD, really GOOD.
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Post by jakefury on Sept 20, 2011 21:38:35 GMT -5
just read Black Panther: Civil War tpb. Good stuff from Hudlin.
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Post by Admin on Sept 24, 2011 18:39:18 GMT -5
Has the 'Hate Monger' or whatever been revealed yet?
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Post by Bentley on Oct 4, 2011 4:35:56 GMT -5
Black Panther has been going strong, it's one of the characters that I throughly enjoy most of the time. Nice to know he will rejoin the Avengers soon.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2011 15:04:47 GMT -5
Is the latest issue the first of the new story? I ask because I picked up the latest, but they didn't have the one before it.
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Post by Morpheus on Oct 22, 2011 15:09:36 GMT -5
If it's # 524, yes, it's the first of this story.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2011 15:10:56 GMT -5
Excellent.
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