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Post by Erik-El on Oct 22, 2010 14:12:13 GMT -5
How do you feel about heroes and villains going to the other side or that have already gone to the other side?
Do you like it or hate it?
Are there characters you think should make the change?
Are there characters you think should never under any circumstance, make the change?
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Post by goku on Oct 22, 2010 14:15:03 GMT -5
Depending on how it's orchestrated, I'm fine with it.
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Post by Decoy Elite on Oct 22, 2010 14:30:32 GMT -5
As long as it's done well I'm cool with it.
Face Heel turns are usually interesting.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 22, 2010 14:39:23 GMT -5
I think there are some characters that should be left alone in the mainstream universes.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2010 14:41:56 GMT -5
I agree with the general opinion. As long as it's done very well, I don't mind.
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 22, 2010 14:45:14 GMT -5
A character I would like to see as a bad guy is Wolverine. The reason is because they usually make villains pretty damn smart. I do not mean like Wolverine possessed by a demon thing. I mean the real Wolverine in complete control of his actions making the switch. Making him scary has always been a good move for Marvel.
Superman should never be made evil. Not ever. I cannot think of a single way that could be a good story.
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Post by Decoy Elite on Oct 22, 2010 14:47:00 GMT -5
Agreed about Superman. There's no way to make him a villain, he's too much of good guy.
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Post by Admin on Oct 22, 2010 14:52:25 GMT -5
A character I would like to see as a bad guy is Wolverine. The reason is because they usually make villains pretty damn smart. I do not mean like Wolverine possessed by a demon thing. I mean the real Wolverine in complete control of his actions making the switch. Making him scary has always been a good move for Marvel. Superman should never be made evil. Not ever. I cannot think of a single way that could be a good story. I agree that would be awesome. The closest we've seen was Enemy of the State, and even a "What If?" about Enemy of the State (Kitty Pryde kills him by phasing her hand into his head. She loses her hand/wrist by doing so). |
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Post by Killshot Caine on Oct 22, 2010 16:08:15 GMT -5
I don't have a problem with it i just don't like when it's done for no reason or poorly written.I hate when writers excite me for a storyline and then write something stupid.
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Post by goku on Oct 22, 2010 19:46:11 GMT -5
I wouldn't want someone like Joker to turn out a good guy though, regardless of how well it's written.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Oct 22, 2010 20:24:33 GMT -5
I'm usually of the mind that if it's well done storyline wise "switching sides" can be great. Problem is that's not an easy thing for a writer to pull off.
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Post by Heisenburg on Oct 22, 2010 21:34:35 GMT -5
Depends on the hero or villain in question...
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Post by Ferro_Vida on Oct 22, 2010 23:37:53 GMT -5
There are some characters that I feel just can't trade sides. I mean, I don't see Joker joining the Justice League, and we all saw how fantastic Green Goblin in the Avengers was. That said, heroes and villains trading sides can make for some very interesting stories depending on how they are handled; The Redeemers/The Thunderbolts has at several points been a must read for both me and my brother.
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Post by Phantom Stargrave on Oct 23, 2010 5:11:08 GMT -5
Superman should never be made evil. Not ever. I cannot think of a single way that could be a good story. Irredeemable would beg to differ.  In all seriousness, while such a thing should not, and will not, ever happen in normal continuity, some what ifs could make a damn good story out of it. |
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 23, 2010 14:18:02 GMT -5
Superman should never be made evil. Not ever. I cannot think of a single way that could be a good story. Irredeemable would beg to differ. In all seriousness, while such a thing should not, and will not, ever happen in normal continuity, some what ifs could make a damn good story out of it. That is specifically what I think alternate universes and possible futures should be used for. Exploring all the interesting things that should never happen in the mainstream universes. I liked Irredeemable because it was not Superman. Had it been a canon issue of Superman, I would have shot my heart right at DC. For me, Superman should never be toyed with like that in the mainstream universe. |
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Post by JediXMan on Oct 23, 2010 17:05:18 GMT -5
I like it when villains redeem themselves and become a "good guy." Me, I actually liked when the Master redeemed himself.
However, some villains are always villains. Good examples:
Dr. Doom
Bullseye
Darkseid
Joker
Etc. Etc. Though I wouldn't mind Sinestro retaining his anti-hero status.
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Post by Crom-Cruach on Oct 23, 2010 17:09:03 GMT -5
However, some villains are always villains. Good examples: Dr. Doom Bullseye Darkseid Joker Nicodemus, just Nicodemus. He's the most evil fuck I've ever read in a novel. He's made characters who are actual demons in their books look like pussies |
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Post by Erik-El on Oct 23, 2010 19:20:48 GMT -5
I like it when villains redeem themselves and become a "good guy." Me, I actually liked when the Master redeemed himself. However, some villains are always villains. Good examples: Dr. Doom Bullseye Darkseid Joker Etc. Etc. Though I wouldn't mind Sinestro retaining his anti-hero status. I agree. Some make for excellent stories and some should always be what they are. |
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Post by cm24 on Oct 27, 2010 12:30:51 GMT -5
It depends. If it's done right, I guess I don't mind it. But I agree that some characters should stay as it is.
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Post by Power NeXus on Oct 29, 2010 21:31:03 GMT -5
I like it when it's written well, but not when it's just a gimmick (I'm gonna throw a dart at a bunch of names on a wall. The name I hit will turn into a bad guy in my next issue. Derp).
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