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Post by Admin on Apr 14, 2011 10:12:52 GMT -5
Current Herc (sword of Peleus, shield of Perseus, bow/arrows of Heracles) VS Daredevil (adamantium batons<so Herc's sword can't cut them in half>) Location:Wall Street, downtown Manhattan. Midday, unpopulated.  Rules:-Morals apply. -Standard elimination rules apply. -Begin 50 feet apart. |
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 14, 2011 10:24:08 GMT -5
Hold on! I got the issue of Herc, let me read it first and I will get back to you.
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Post by Admiral Rodgers on Apr 14, 2011 11:11:42 GMT -5
...Hurry up Erik
Just kidden but i dont have it , i love Herc though i myt start this as a jump off point ?
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Post by Admiral Rodgers on Apr 14, 2011 11:14:42 GMT -5
But as i recall , Herc is a master of (is it ?) Panthias ? A MMA-like fighting style constructed on Olympus And is a master Bowman , i'd say DD is capable of dodging but its still a good way to gain time or distract him whilst he closes distance , Herc's sheild should counteract a baton hit due to Her'c reaction , and a hit from his sword is a potential fiht ender , i'll say Herc. due to very good fighting skills that may not be equal but his oher weapns are more deadly than DD's
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Post by Pirateking69 on Apr 14, 2011 11:28:46 GMT -5
I would debate for DD but i haven't gotten to around to read Herc 1 yet
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Post by ckal on Apr 14, 2011 13:17:28 GMT -5
Hahaha Katz! I remember you saying you didn't even want to know about herc and his Greek weapons. Btw I'm never a fan of changing someones weapons in a battle so they can't be cut. That's part of the characters and their weapons, so why make the exceptions?
Rodgers- I would read the issue first before you give an opinion based purely on speculation, so you can actually see what he can do without his powers. Also, his shield has a medusa power- turning people into stone who stare at it. Obviously against daredevil, this wouldn't be effective because he is blind, and I would highly doubt it would work on his radar sense.
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 14, 2011 13:19:21 GMT -5
Herc. He has the ability to render his opponents totally blind to the point they shoot all over the place while he idly stands still, posturing. 
Oh, wait, DD is blind already.
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Post by ckal on Apr 14, 2011 13:32:08 GMT -5
Lmao. Quick, post my scan!  |
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 14, 2011 13:41:34 GMT -5
Herc's sword may not be able to cut the batons but his arrows can. Magically imbued to cut through any armor, man-made or natural. Obviously the batons are not armor but neither was the sub-machine gun that it cut in two.
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Post by Admin on Apr 14, 2011 13:50:11 GMT -5
Herc. He has the ability to render his opponents totally blind to the point they shoot all over the place while he idly stands still, posturing.
Oh, wait, DD is blind already. I was curious to see if anyone would bring that up. And dodging a full clip on the limited space of a subway train means either: A) That's one hell of a good reflex for Herc (to sidestep, ready the bow and fire). B) The guy is a total idiot and was just randomly spraying the gun. Going with the muzzle of the uzi, I'm leaning towards B. ckal, I enjoy trash talking, but I think my reading of Annihilation shows I'll at least give anything a chance. |
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 14, 2011 13:52:08 GMT -5
Probably a combination of A and B.
Besides, he did get hit anyway.
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 14, 2011 13:53:06 GMT -5
It would be pretty far-fetched to call it a reflex feat. I mean, Herc doesn't even move at all. He just says "nfff" while waiting for his opponent to conveniently shoot every bullet he's got all around him.
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Post by Admin on Apr 14, 2011 13:53:35 GMT -5
"Btw I'm never a fan of changing someones weapons in a battle so they can't be cut. That's part of the characters and their weapons, so why make the exceptions? "
When Rand posed as Daredevil his batons were able to block Deadpool's katanas. Who knows if the same would apply here? It would likely just be speculation with no definitive answer. So, I provide one by making them adamantium. It's not really a huge change to the weapon at all.
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Post by Admin on Apr 14, 2011 13:55:24 GMT -5
The motion of his cloak COULD imply otherwise. Regardless, it's very far fetched that he would remain untagged (well, hit by only 1 bullet) in such a small space with so many shots fired.
HE'S GOT DA MOVES.
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Post by ckal on Apr 14, 2011 13:55:56 GMT -5
Katz- well it's definitely not A because the guy also missed him to the right. Herc was magically in the right place sure the guy decided not to shoot. also, I believe herc actually did get shot because I remember him trying to take a bullet out of his shoulder after that. So, IMO, dodge nothing did herc do.
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 14, 2011 13:56:01 GMT -5
You know, if Daredevil had been in that same situation and done the exact same thing, people would have been applauding how awesome DD is.
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 14, 2011 13:57:00 GMT -5
It's been over a month since I saw the preview, and I don't recall if that was his starting position in the previous page, so I'll give you that.
And nah. He's got DA PAK FORCE.
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Post by Morpheus on Apr 14, 2011 13:57:53 GMT -5
You know, if Daredevil had been in that same situation and done the exact same thing, people would have been applauding how awesome DD is. |
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Post by Erik-El on Apr 14, 2011 14:00:48 GMT -5
I am not saying you hate Herc, but I do think you guys are selling him short just because he is finally showing some feats besides strength and invulnerability (which he no longer has).
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Post by Admin on Apr 14, 2011 14:02:25 GMT -5
You can't really tell if it's his starting position since the panel before is a close up of him striking someone with the shield.
ckal, he was tagged in the shoulder. But still, friggin 40ish bullets in such a small space, at such close range. Insane.
LOL Erik.
Does Herc have any stand out skill feats from his previous showings that can be replicated without his insane stats? But still, he's sporting good strength. I'll make a scan of him holding up that bar at the end of the issue.
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